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The Everything NFL Thread v2.0
- Thread starter DM
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Um, okay. What exactly are you basing this on?
You're right, because it's not like he's grown and improved as a player and that in his last 9 games before last night (including all those road playoff wins last year and that pesky humongofuck Super Bowl upset on a last minute miracle drive) he had thrown 16 TDs to 3 INTs.
Players can have bad nights, it's only the most difficult position in all of sports.
Players can have bad nights, it's only the most difficult position in all of sports.
Eli Manning has never been good. He and the rest of the Giants played lights out through the playoffs last year. All the credit in the world to them for that, but beyond that Eli's always been half-assed. If one game doesn't prove he's bad, one playoff run doesn't disprove four years of complete mediocrity either. He's serviceable, nothing more.
I have confidence mah 'boys can bounce back still, especially with the Giants losing last night looooool. Felix will be back in a couple weeks with Romo and Newman coming back after the Bye, so the only significant injury is McBriar. :( Rather than prancing into the playoffs on a weak second half performance like last year, they'll just have to step it up at the end instead. It might be just what they need to toughen up mentally anyway.
In other Dallas news, Pacman is suspended another month for the bodyguard incident and will likely be suspended indefinitely after that. They also paid too much to acquire the other Roy Williams! Nonetheless, probably a good move by Dallas since they needed to shore up their WR corps and Williams is certifiable, which can't be understated in a league where no draft choice is certain (unlike, say, the NBA).
I have confidence mah 'boys can bounce back still, especially with the Giants losing last night looooool. Felix will be back in a couple weeks with Romo and Newman coming back after the Bye, so the only significant injury is McBriar. :( Rather than prancing into the playoffs on a weak second half performance like last year, they'll just have to step it up at the end instead. It might be just what they need to toughen up mentally anyway.
In other Dallas news, Pacman is suspended another month for the bodyguard incident and will likely be suspended indefinitely after that. They also paid too much to acquire the other Roy Williams! Nonetheless, probably a good move by Dallas since they needed to shore up their WR corps and Williams is certifiable, which can't be understated in a league where no draft choice is certain (unlike, say, the NBA).
so it's official, roy williams to the cowboys for their 1st, 3rd and 6th rounder next year. this is a great deal for the lions (when has anyone ever said that???), while having roy and calvin was great, we need to upgrade our talent across the board and cj's better anyways. as for dallas, they gave up way too much but I guess they're basically "all in" to try to win it this season.
I'm just going to post the cliche, "any given Sunday." ANY team in the NFL can beat another, they are all elite talents, its not like a high school team was playing an NFL team. They are both franchises with talent that comprises the best of the best in football, the Giants proved it last year vs the Patriots and the Browns proved it yesterday.
Now we will watch the Browns go back to slacking and the Giants getting back to their #1 ranked offense and #3 ranked defense.
Now we will watch the Browns go back to slacking and the Giants getting back to their #1 ranked offense and #3 ranked defense.
I'll take "mediocre in season but awesome in playoffs" over "awesome in regular season but chokes/sucks in the playoffs" any day...if you have a ring, you have a ring.
I've been bashing Eli since day one and I fully admit he's an elite QB at this point (not just because of the ring - he's more consistent, makes better decisions, etc)
I doubt I'll be able to really think of him as elite until at least another season assuming he manages to play consistently.
EDIT: At the very least though, he's a pretty clutch QB when things go wrong, I think since 2004 he's had the second most game winning comeback drives. Aside from playing well at the right time (although I think that the defense is the real reason for their playoff victories, and definitely the Super Bow), he hasn't really been playing at a top QB level for that long yet, and he didn't play like one against the Browns Monday.
EDIT: At the very least though, he's a pretty clutch QB when things go wrong, I think since 2004 he's had the second most game winning comeback drives. Aside from playing well at the right time (although I think that the defense is the real reason for their playoff victories, and definitely the Super Bow), he hasn't really been playing at a top QB level for that long yet, and he didn't play like one against the Browns Monday.
his team is 4-1/defending champ/something like 18-7 over the past season and a half (including playoffs) what else do you want
I was the one who said the whole thing was a fluke when they won; come on lol
I was the one who said the whole thing was a fluke when they won; come on lol
(Half of what I would have responded with I had already edited into the above post)
Team records don't just hinge on the QB. He wasn't impressive in the majority of his games last year, only breaking 90 Passer Rating 3 times during the season if I recall. He had two good games against TB and and Dallas in the playoffs, but in the end it was his defense that did the real work in the NFCCG and SB. He has looked better this year, but even this year is only impressive games were against the two teams with bottom 5 pass defenses.
Team records don't just hinge on the QB. He wasn't impressive in the majority of his games last year, only breaking 90 Passer Rating 3 times during the season if I recall. He had two good games against TB and and Dallas in the playoffs, but in the end it was his defense that did the real work in the NFCCG and SB. He has looked better this year, but even this year is only impressive games were against the two teams with bottom 5 pass defenses.
Yeah, well Eli wasn't exactly staller the previous couple years in the playoffs either.
It's a stretch to say he was stellar in the playoffs either past the first two games. The latter two games I guess it was great that he was actually playing like a good QB (read: not fucking up), but it was mainly him not being bad enough to overturn what the Giants D was managing to do against Favre and Brady.
NFC
East: Dallas
North: Chicago
South: Carolina
West: Arizona
Wild Cards: NY Giants, Washington
AFC
East: Buffalo
North: Pittsburgh
South: Indy
West: San Diego
Wild Cards: Jacksonville, Tennessee
East: Dallas
North: Chicago
South: Carolina
West: Arizona
Wild Cards: NY Giants, Washington
AFC
East: Buffalo
North: Pittsburgh
South: Indy
West: San Diego
Wild Cards: Jacksonville, Tennessee
Normally, I would be worried that my defense absolutely sucks right now.
But then I remember Jay Cutler is a tool and then I feel better.
But then I remember Jay Cutler is a tool and then I feel better.
Damn, Green Bay won. I don't think the Bears will hold on to the division much longer.
