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Alright, so I have a question for you guys, since the majority of you seem to know what you're talking about. I'm limited to the amount of weight I can lift due to money issues atm, and I intend to join a gym when money isn't so tight. However, this probably won't be until summertime, unless I can find a new job... >.>

So, my question is, can I get stronger by lifting the same amount of weight each workout? This being a general 5x5 workout, like SL, while trying to maintain a decent diet. Any input is appreciated.
 
Alright, so I have a question for you guys, since the majority of you seem to know what you're talking about. I'm limited to the amount of weight I can lift due to money issues atm, and I intend to join a gym when money isn't so tight. However, this probably won't be until summertime, unless I can find a new job... >.>

So, my question is, can I get stronger by lifting the same amount of weight each workout? This being a general 5x5 workout, like SL, while trying to maintain a decent diet. Any input is appreciated.


You have to increase weight. You're not getting any benefits from lifting the same weight each workout. Adding 5-10 lbs every week to a heavy compound exercise will help you gain strength because your overloading. Don't overload too rapidly because it will result in poor improvement (progression) and demotivation and if you're an athlete it may lead to an injury. Since you can't go to a gym at the moment I'd do the traditional body weight exercises (pull ups, chin ups, push ups, squats,) but if you do have weights then try a circuit weight training exercise. Honestly, without the proper weight equipment it can be a bit of a challenge to achieve certain goals, but anything is possible. If I were you, just stick with body weight exercises until you get a legit gym membership, believe me its worth the wait to begin fresh in a strength program.

I don't know you're current diet nor your stats (body weight, height, age) but I'd strongly suggest you start a beginners program to build up some strength and technique. I was fortunate enough to do this program I'm going to suggest and I'm sure many users here have done this program, its effective and simple routine. Rippetoe's Starting Stength will help you develop base strength and you will gain muscle but obviously diet is a key ingredient.

http://www.myweightlifting.com/beginner-weight-training.html

Once you get a gym membership consider trying out this program, many people who haven't done it have regretted it, its a fantastic program.
 
no you cannot. you can increase the reps but that'll last you a couple weeks at the most

Basically. If you're doing 15 reps per set, that's already way too much for a guy who wants to build muscle. That's probably also almost too much if you only wanted to tone. You need to be lifting with a weight that puts you in the 4-8 reps per set range, where the last 2 or 3 reps are pretty difficult.
 
I have been working otu with weights but i have "plateud" for the last few months, probably becaus i stopped squatting due to an injury and the squat is needed to build all round strength.

I want to gain a lot of muscle fast, will eating lots and lots of food and drinking lots of milk help me out with that? when i say food i mean real food, rice, cereals, fruit, bread etc
 
Protein, protein, protein. Drinks whey shakes, eat chicken and salmon and tuna, eat all the lean protein you can get your hands on.

Also, make sure you're switching up your workouts every 3-4 weeks. If you're plateauing, it's because your muscles have gotten used to what you do, so you need to change it up.
 
I have been working otu with weights but i have "plateud" for the last few months, probably becaus i stopped squatting due to an injury and the squat is needed to build all round strength.

I want to gain a lot of muscle fast, will eating lots and lots of food and drinking lots of milk help me out with that? when i say food i mean real food, rice, cereals, fruit, bread etc

Gaining muscle takes a lot of hard work, food has nutrients and energy to fuel your body before and after a workout. Eating the correct macro-nutrients and having a well thought out meal plan is the best way to achieve any particular goal. Many people are impatient and they want to sprint to see results, think of it as a marathon. To gain muscle you will have to bulk on a clean diet, making sure you don't go overboard and eat a calorie surplus between 250-500 calories over your BMR maintanence(Basal Metabolic Rate).

So let's say your BMR at your weight is 2,800 calories, you will have to eat around 3,300 calories to gain 1 lb per week. Then after weeks of bulking and reaching your target weight having successfully gained muscle, you can have the option to go on a cutting phase and drop some weight and body fat by keeping the hard earned muscle. In order to keep muscle you will have to keep lifting heavy, if you don't you will lose strength and muscle you've gained. I suggest you only count calories for a a week as a guide to see how much your consuming. Watching portion sizes and servings is key so you don't overeat too much. Eating your carbs before a workout will supply the body with enough energy in a weight lifting workout. Make sure you hydrate and drink at least 1 Gallon of cold water per day, water helps flush out toxins and cleans out your liver.

Avoid sweetened cereals that have more than 6 grams of sugar per serving, you can treat yourself two to three times a week. Eating complex carbohydrates like (Oatmeal, Whole Wheat Bread, Brown Rice, fruits, Bran Cereal, Vegetables, Beans) will help you pre-workout. Eating healthy sources of fats are essential for your body, Omega-3 and Omega-6 Fatty acids are essential to your diet and helps your immune system. Sources of fats are (Peanut Butter, Avocado, Olive Oil, Salmon, Nuts ec). Protein will be the key to gaining muscle and its important to eat the right amount. Drink your milk and I strongly advise you drink it because milk supplies the body good nutrients and is a good protein source along with calcium. Eat your chicken, and eat Greek Yogurt as one serving contains 15 grams of protein which is amazing. Always combine your meals with Protein, Carbohydrates, and Fats.
The important thing is a diet is not just short-term, its to become a lifestyle which you enjoy and never get bored with.

Lift heavy and train smart. That's the best advice I can give you.
 
Alright, so I have a question for you guys, since the majority of you seem to know what you're talking about. I'm limited to the amount of weight I can lift due to money issues atm, and I intend to join a gym when money isn't so tight. However, this probably won't be until summertime, unless I can find a new job... >.>

So, my question is, can I get stronger by lifting the same amount of weight each workout? This being a general 5x5 workout, like SL, while trying to maintain a decent diet. Any input is appreciated.

do you have a university or high school rec center where you can lift?

if not , just lift really heavy shit if you're strapped for cash, like rocks, or backpacks full of rocks. for bench press just grab a wooden pole of sorts and attach some weights to the ends. you can do the same for squats and deadlifts. and three good bodyweight exercises are dips, pull-ups and chin-ups, and you can do the backpack-rock thing with those

it sounds ridiculous but its pretty awesome and you will get beefy on the cheap.

gl with your weightlifting endeavours
 
I have been working otu with weights but i have "plateud" for the last few months, probably becaus i stopped squatting due to an injury and the squat is needed to build all round strength.

I want to gain a lot of muscle fast, will eating lots and lots of food and drinking lots of milk help me out with that? when i say food i mean real food, rice, cereals, fruit, bread etc

nigga you need to deload

tell me what you're lifting and how long you've been at that weight. if it's more than 2 workouts you're doing it wrong. drop 10-20% and work your way back up again. tof, da deload master, you should bother him about it if you need more help.

eat as much as you can and you'll make gains. you'll get a little fat but you can go on a cut later once you have lotsa muscle B)




also muscle confusion is broscience. if you want proof, you can a) google "muscle confusion" and see how many results call it a myth/ broscience, b) look at every person who does SL / SS til they squat 300 pounds and then move on to madcow / texas method for the next year and keep making gains (doing the same compound lifts) or c) look at every god damned powerlifter ever (who does that same lifts for competition)
 
Why There's NO Muscle Confusion Myth
However, in all honesty they do indicate two of the requirements for muscle building growth. First, they do point out that two of the most important requirements for building muscle are increasing the volume load and incorporating the proper amount of rest and recuperation between workouts.
In other words, you must strive to increase the amount of resistance in each exercise movement and you must give the muscles of your body enough rest and nutrition in order to repair themselves and grow.
The idea that there really is a "Muscle Confusion Myth" is just bogus. And it's the complete opposite of the scientific evidence that indicates that muscles can and do become "adaptive."
Of course, your body's muscles cannot become "Confused."
 
Thanks for the replies, all! I guess I should've mentioned this in my post, but I have access to a light barbell (10 lbs) and up to 105 lbs of weights at home. However, I don't have a rack, and my OHP isn't the greatest, so until I can get proper equipment, my squatting isn't getting any heavier...

edit: grammar, and Delta I have a job, but money's tight at the moment. : /
 
Do Pull-Ups
When you can do lots of pull-ups hold a weight between your legs and do more pull-ups

Do Push-Ups
When you can do lots of push-ups put a weight on your back and do more push-ups

Do weighted lunges and squats with as much weight as you can with good form

Do overhead press

Better yet get a job and get a gym membership
 

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^I was think of a football player but I was wrong


Just did a bit of resistance lifting. I feel a little bloated recently since the holidays began. Better lay off the homemade chex mix...
 
Just been reading Timothy ferriss's 4 hour body. I am curious about his whole "occams protocol" program where you go to the gym for 30 minutes twice per week for 4 weeks and gain 4.5kg of muscle. Has anyone read this book/ tried the program, if so does it work and what is your opinion on it?
If it works I am definitely trying it as the food intake I can handle without too much trouble.

Aside from the whole muscle promises section I thought it was a very interesting read overall and I would definitely recomend browsing through it if you findthe time.
 
Attention stronglifters of smogon

I'm 19, 198lbs and just over 6'3".
Now I've been working at the uni gym for a year and put on roughly 25 pounds over the year. Now I'm finally going to start stronglifts.

I can bench (3x8 lol shuddup I know) 160-170ish. And I was just wondering how much weight I should start off with. As far as I have been told, my form is pretty good but my main problem is that I don't want to stall too quickly.

How much should I start the programme benching when I'm starting squats and deads/OHP/rows from pretty much scratch (65 pounds ish)?

thanks and peace out
 
how have you been progressing with 3x8? 5x5 is easier to add weight on than 3x8, so staying at the same weight wouldn't be too much of a problem unless you've been struggling with the weight. It wouldn't be a bad idea to deload 10-20% of that weight, get form down perfectly and go from there, especially if you're starting light on every other lift. Once you start hitting heavier weights with the other lifts, it'll be harder to add weight to bench.

Chances are you're going to stall on bench before anything else besides maybe OHP, but your main focus should be on squats and deads. Your bench should increase once those two lifts reach comparable levels anyway.

Basically, you'll have to play it by feel for a while. If you're stalling too quickly then you'll have to cut the weight, and if it's affecting your other lifts (squats and deads especially since they're more important), deloading would be a good idea. If it were up to me, I'd say deload 15-20% from whatever your 3x8 max is and start 5x5 from there, so around 135 5x5 to start. Focus on bringing your other lifts up first as that will have way more benefit for you.
 
Well I started benching at the start of the year - at around 100lb. But I've never really had a programme and stronglifts looks good.

I think deloading slightly would be a good idea, probably drop it to 135 and perfect my form. My lower back shouldn't be touching the bench right? And my lower body should be tight? Thanks heaps man.

I just need someone to teach me to dead as I'm a bit apprehensive about it, I know it's amazing but I don't want to slip a disc as my dad has back problems and fuck dat etc. The gym in my home town (not my Uni city) is full of posers and there's only one deadlifter that goes regularly so I'm going to try get him to teach me.

Hopefully by my start date goal of the new year.




EDIT:
Did my first 5x5 today. Dropped back to 135 bench and focused on slow decline and explosive push and targetting the right muscles. Felt like more of a work out than if i were going 40 pounds heavier; cheers man.

currently downing a 4 egg omelette with tomato, onion and lean bacon. feels good man. B)
 
If you don't want to stall and like in your case it would be easy to do so, you don't know your weight limits, go 3x5. Everybody has mixed emotions about it but bottom line is, you won't be benefiting anymore from 5x5 than 3x5. 5x5 can become a little hard on the body sometimes, especially when you're lifting pretty heavy.

And chances are that if you think 5x5 doesn't have shit on you, you aren't lifting heavy enough.

I think deloading slightly would be a good idea, probably drop it to 135 and perfect my form. My lower back shouldn't be touching the bench right? And my lower body should be tight? Thanks heaps man.

Not exactly your whole lower back, just above your ass. You should get the sensation you're trying to pick up your whole back, but you should be putting more emphasis on your lower part a little more. I did not say lift your whole back now, just feel that low part really tight as you pick it up. If by lower body you refer to your legs; they should be pretty flat on the ground. Use them as stabilizers correctly and they will help you out in lifting somewhat.
 
Alright, so I have a question for you guys, since the majority of you seem to know what you're talking about. I'm limited to the amount of weight I can lift due to money issues atm, and I intend to join a gym when money isn't so tight. However, this probably won't be until summertime, unless I can find a new job... >.>

So, my question is, can I get stronger by lifting the same amount of weight each workout? This being a general 5x5 workout, like SL, while trying to maintain a decent diet. Any input is appreciated.

I found myself in the same situation back when I started lifting; I was broke as fuck with no job. All I had was a bar, bench, and a pair of 45s, and if I recall correctly I had a pair of 10s and 4 plates of 5. Pretty incomplete.

The max I could go with the set up was 135, and I was barely lifting the bar with plates of 10 on each side. I didn't do 3x5 then but I was focused in getting as many reps as possible with my max, which was about 60. One day I would get 5 and next week 6, then next week 7, and so on. I eventually reached 95 I believe before I was able to get a complete weight set.

In short, increase your reps at your max weight. Since you won't be aiming to add weight, aim to add reps. Even if it means you being at 145 right now and you can only press it 5 times, aim to add more. It doesn't matter if it takes you 1 week to get one more in, just make sure you put your work in. Even if it means you lifting 145 3x13, there isn't much more you can do. This method works something like push ups and bench pressing. You increase one of them, and somehow the other one increases as well, except this is weight and reps. After you adjust your body to lift your max MORE than you used to be able to do so, you should be able to lift stronger for sure.
 
touch your shoulder blades together and that's how much of your back should be off the bench imo

reppin' 3x5



md, looking to learn deadlifts? nigga i got you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syt7A23YnpA

learned it off this video, i have scoliosis and i'm fine (except for last two weeks but fuk that)

also you can post form videos all sorts of places on the internet and get feedback to make sure you're doing it right. never hurts to see yourself perform either, that's how i've been working on form and i'm doing much better i think! (last time i was lifting anyway :`( )
 
I've switched up my previous diet and have been experimenting with cycling my carbs.
It's something people should seriously look into if their goals is to get lean and reach a low body fat percentage.

I'd be eating High-Carb on my weight lifting days, which are Monday, Wednesday and Friday. My Low-Carb approach is Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday.

High-Carb days my carbs will be a lot higher because I'm adding a good complex carb which is brown rice on two of my meals.

Low-Carb days I focus on protein and my carbs will be limited to oats and veggies.

The important factor in leaning out is to cut out carbohydrates on your last meal of the day as you won't be using any energy before you sleep. The body prefers using up good sources of protein. It also prevents you from waking up extremely hungry.




High-Carb Training Day Menu
Monday/Wednesday/Friday

Meal#1
1/2 cup Old fashioned oatmeal
1/4 cup egg whites
1 whole egg
daily fish oil (1)

Meal#2
1 Apple
1 Greek Yogurt

Meal#3
1 turkey patty
1/4 cup brown rice
1 cup green beans

Meal#4
Whey protein shake (3 scoops)
1 cup milk

Meal#5
1 chicken breast
1/2 cup brown rice
1 cup broccoli
1 tbsp olive oil

Meal#6
Whey protein shake (2 scoops)
2 cups water


Low-Carb Non-Training Day Menu
Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday/Sunday

Meal#1
Whey protein shake (2 scoops)
2 cups water
daily fish oil (1)

Meal#2
1/2 cup old fashioned oatmeal
1 apple
1/2 cup egg whites
1 whole egg

Meal#3
1 chicken breast
2 cups lettuce
1 tomato
1 tbsp olive oil

Meal#4
1 cup milk
1 greek yogurt

Meal#5
1 turkey patty
1 cup broccoli
1 cup green beans

Meal#6
2 chicken breast
2 cups green salad
1 tbsp olive oil
 
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