NOC The Mafia Invitational Redux Game Thread - GAME OVER

[3P1K]

Cause it's super dumb

concurring

 

[3P1K]

Leet was not going to confirm being mason either way despite AG putting him in a situation where he had to confirm or deny it stop bringing masons up

Was this a soft???????

 

[3P1K]

 

[Lrr]

you guys have about 3 hours left

 

[3P1K]

AG - Idk, I half feel I have confirmation bias but yeah, feels like asek and ag tried to bus each other. Then AG also says he's going to ISO asek but unless I missed it, he never does.

Mind going into a bit more detail as to what made you think this? If you are here FH?

 

[3P1K]

you guys have about 3 hours left

3PM EST right?

 

[Lrr]

3PM EST right?

Yep

 

[3P1K]

Pmuch everyone was on AG somewhere in their POE; (refering to the day phase he got lynched) so im not inclined to hand out the town cards DLE left me to either of you based on pushing on AG that day. AG was fucked regardless tbh. Iirc moody started his push on AG earlier tho; cant recall if FH did as well he may have

AG - Idk, I half feel I have confirmation bias but yeah, feels like asek and ag tried to bus each other. Then AG also says he's going to ISO asek but unless I missed it, he never does.

this implies that he did but id have to go back and double check that (will do so when i finish looking over AG)

 

[Former]

Pmuch everyone was on AG somewhere in their POE; (refering to the day phase he got lynched) so im not inclined to hand out the town cards DLE left me to either of you based on pushing on AG that day. AG was fucked regardless tbh. Iirc moody started his push on AG earlier tho; cant recall if FH did as well he may have

this implies that he did but id have to go back and double check that (will do so when i finish looking over AG)

Ngl I don't remember when I did. That said, I supported lynching you/Asek/LW/AG since D3 as I saw it as a valid solve when Yeti brought it up and it concurred well enough with my reads.

As for the post, I'm not sure what you are asking. I believe that was from my AG ISO? Or something? But anyways, yeah Asek had those posts D1 where he was gunning for Empoof which gave me some slight doubt at the time that AG was his buddy.

 

[3P1K]

As for the post, I'm not sure what you are asking. I believe that was from my AG ISO? Or something? But anyways, yeah Asek had those posts D1 where he was gunning for Empoof which gave me some slight doubt at the time that AG was his buddy.

Its was from a shorthand readslists at the end of something later in the game looked like you were doing some reread anaylsis but it was post #2008 (it started as an asek iso but came out as a reread in the end; that post where you said asek iso pt. 2); didnt mean to phrase it as a question if I did; im mostly just jotting down thoughts on the thread as i look over things at this point

 

[3P1K]

side note how to link posts; this info would make my life so much easier and iirc i managed to do it once back in animal mafia

 

[3P1K]

There was also the interaction with AG in which he swapped spots between me and FH inexplicably in his personal POE where I was originally next on his POE before FH then it was FH before me. But me personally reading into this is mostly wifom. MoodyCloud whatchu got fam

 

[3P1K]

Unvote, Vote Former Hope

Willing to believe leet's claim; that means former is next on my list.

When earlier he said I would be next for reference

 

[Former]

ftr, just woke up a bit ago. But will try to actually do somethings before noon.

 

[3P1K]

Ngl I don't remember when I did. That said, I supported lynching you/Asek/LW/AG since D3 as I saw it as a valid solve when Yeti brought it up and it concurred well enough with my reads.

I do recall you backing yeti's solve; so ye

 

[Former]

Another Moody ISO - starting from page 60

Ag why do you think moody is super scummy for the hammer but give dle a complete pass despite his only post of the day putting ms at hammer territory?

I need to go see if dle even has a reason to have voted ms from the prior day

Page 66, first relevant thing. Which honestly, will probably requote this post in the DLE/3P1K ISO since this is a really good point. Anyways for moody this post does 2 things
1. Backs up the idea Yeti knew Moody was town (though that's only really implied here)
2. AG putting pressure on Moody over DLE who arguably had the scummier slot in that day.

Yo real talk did moody even know it was at l-1 when he voted? He quoted an earlier post and it felt like kind of a joke vote at ms that just happened to be hammer. Hard to believe he chooses to hammer as slanking scum and the number of people who were on at the time to instruct him in scum chat are limited so I think he may just be town

Yeti backing up Town moody again

my poe if i heavily factor in texas's read onto leet:

asek ag lw dle

knights is the next one up

think moody may be town, don't personally trust leet but think the fact my poe doesn't trust him either and texas felt rly strongly about his meta read means smth, think fh is town.

Ah, the famous POE. Yeti once again (though I guess not really too important as it's like 5 posts down from the last) backs up Moody as town.

my poe:

asek/lw/ag top scum reads, maybe lw is not scum if it is ag/dle/asek and that's why ag gave dle a free pass, maybe asek is not scum if it's ag/dle/lw and that's why ag gives lolworthy reads on both
dle is the third if the above only has 2/3
knights would be next if the above 4 are only 2/3
leet next if the above 5 are only 2/3 and i jettison the 3rd party TRs onto him and substitute my own disbelief walrein subbed out as town after a 'sorry ill post more tmrw' and he just peaces out instead
moody need to see more of to get a full read on him but i don't think the hammer as shadynasty as it looks actually came from perpetually-behind scum
fh towniest

lynch through asek/lw/ag/dle and the game prolly just ends there in a town win imo

Puts Moody in the 2nd towniest slot. Aka "towny but I'm not going to make it too obvious we're masons". Yeti also believes that DLE is mafia if 2 of Asek/lw/AG are scum

ok it is 1 AM and I mostly skimmed through pages so I cannot go into isos/detail rn this is pretty much where I'm at

Knights
FH

Hitmonleet
Yeti

DLE
Lightwolf
Asek

At this point in time I want to lynch in Asek/Lightwolf as I believe this to be the poe where we will find at least one mafian
if we don't we will lose and deserve it

More coherent things to come tomorrow

At first I was going to say this was a good reads post. Has yeti in a believable slot for a mason buddy, Asek at the bottom...but MoodyCloud why did you leave off AG from this...?

Yeti then reminds him of AG's existance in which Moody adds him right with DLE.

Moody shades AG

Moody continues to put pressure on AG. Honestly, in other situations I would see this as a red flag. As in straight not having someone on your reads list and then being reminded of such and *then* start to hard push them very much seems like it's an "oops just slipped, time to hard bus".

if Asek is mafia I would look at DLE getting MS to L-1 differently (yes there is some irony to be found here) and drop that into the lynch pool
don't think FH is ever mafia with Asek here after he appeared to be jumping to conclusions regarding Texas' call to lynch Asek

I don't this this ever got followed up on. MoodyCloud why and how would yous see it differently (which maybe is hard to answer since Asek did indeed flip mafia)

i don't think moody is faking it

i do agree he and dle are never w/w

More

lynch I'm the most confident about is AG who has done nothing to make me change my mind since I voted him

idk what's the deal with the hammer being cited as reason to tr me but people who think it is scum indicative should speak up now rather than wait til lylo to go "UM REMEMBER THAT HAMMER GUYS ?"

isoing AG

Good anti AG post


Okay, I'm going to wrap this up early on page 80.

Basically. There's incredibly strong evidence that Moody was masons with Texas from the get go and Yeti from d2 on. There are of course some things here and there which would probably mean more if not for the prior clearing evidence. I think at this point, I honestly probably ready to ride or die town=moody here. So epik, if you are town. Convince me otherwise or something.

Otherwise will wait a bit, eat food and do a DLE/Epik ISO.

 

[Former]

Just to verify MoodyCloud are you going to be around at DL

 

[3P1K]

Basically. There's incredibly strong evidence that Moody was masons with Texas from the get go and Yeti from d2 on. There are of course some things here and there which would probably mean more if not for the prior clearing evidence. I think at this point, I honestly probably ready to ride or die town=moody here. So epik, if you are town. Convince me otherwise or something.

With what? I have nothing more to offer at this point aside of anyalsis; if you want my opinions on something go for it and ask to interact with me on things. Im here for a reason. Im probs gonna lynch you at this point because of moody's merit as a mason. I dont think he could set things up as scum from that far behind; he wouldve had to set up a lot and pray that wasnt a moment that could possibly discredit the masons. Its physically impossible for me defend DLE's actions as i can't explain his thought processes. I could explain why i was so idle but that probably doesnt matter and is NAI af.

 

[3P1K]

Man, why do you have to ping me twice as scum things.

And why did you have to do it when I'm busy at work

Like, if you are town I would rather you just have said nothing

Havent done the iso yet but part of me feels like scum!moody wouldve chosen a more logical post to say texas scrapped the yeti read than some random post about FH's callout of texas "messing up horribly"?
Scum being careful checking their basis before going out and making a claim like that.
Eh

What about this post was scummy? Delve into your thought process here?

 

[3P1K]

FTR the order of those two posts was my post---->your post i quoted them backwards

 

[Former]

If you are referring to what I think you were.

I was saying that as it should be, claiming mason on the last day is fairly scummy.

 

[3P1K]

If you are referring to what I think you were.

I was saying that as it should be, claiming mason on the last day is fairly scummy.

No you called two of my posts scummy. In particular you called the post i quoted of myself alongside your post scummy. I want to hear why you think that.

 

[Former]

Pages 2-4 Texas/FH have some spat that's probably TvT. If there's a scum there it's FH. That interaction is basically never WvW

Page 5, Metal Sonic keeps stirring pots with "wonder if people are ready for asek scum" that don't seem to accomplish much of anything. It's early enough to be null but it's just tonally wrong

Yeti tonally stands out as way more comfortable

KoC getting mad about role slipping and allusion after doing the speculation as town last game :thinking:

DLE's first real post in the game after a bunch of fluff. The first part honestly doesn't sit well. He doesn't put any effort into saying why or how the content effects his views but seems to almost arbitrarily say I would be scummier in that interaction...but why say anything about that all? Like, certainly at this point, page 45


Well my computer just died so that sucks. Guess this will be my dle/ep1k iso

 

[3P1K]

Hey former hope; you got anything at this point to convince me to lynch moody? Or not to lynch you>moody? Im full well aware of how this day probably ends but I want to check all my basis before I personally make a call.

 

[3P1K]

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