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Typing: The Mod
- Thread starter Gravity Monkey
- Start date
- Status
While we are at it, would it be bad if we make an Eeveelution for each Pet Mod Type? With 545 BST, as the Eeveelutions as single-typed and struggles to even find a niche in OU, thus we buff a stat to one of the existing Eeveelution's worse stats (HP for Flareon) and giving a better Ability for those who lags behind even more (Guts on a Pokémon that can't be burned? Really?).
Its only a suggestion, but remember that Umbreon is introduced alongside Dark-type in Gen 2, same goes with Sylveon and Fairy-type in Gen 6.
Its only a suggestion, but remember that Umbreon is introduced alongside Dark-type in Gen 2, same goes with Sylveon and Fairy-type in Gen 6.
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It could be intresting, however, for the moment, I think we should avoid doing brand new fakemons and concentrate more on the type themselves, though one day ir could be possible.
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Subs closed. Voting opens somewhere in the day.
How about Rotom forms?
Since there's a lot of restrictions linked to those, and that it's more of a form than an actual pokemon, I'll let go for this time.
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Typing: The Mod {Slate #5 (Space Type) - Voting phase}
Aaaaaargh I'm friggin dead I had to scroll between 5 darn pages to make this I want to be paid
So, while voting, don't forget about the rules for each category. Good luck to everyone!
Other categories coming soon, please don't post anything in between.
Typing: The Mod {Slate #5 (Space Type) - Voting phase}
So, while voting, don't forget about the rules for each category. Good luck to everyone!
Other categories coming soon, please don't post anything in between.
You can vote for a maximum of 5 abilities. Self-votes are allowed.
Flying, Psychic, Dark, Time
Not Very Effective Electric, Rock, Steel, (Chaos)
- You can't fly in space, and there's no air in space.
- Most of space is dark matter, and the universe uses dark energy to grow larger.
- Space is reeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyy old (~13.8 billion years), and it's theorized that even if the universe ended, it would just start over again.
- Machines can simulate space, and spaceships are also machines.
- Spaceships and nuclear fusion.
- Just in case. There's plenty of chaos in space, like supernovas, gamma ray bursts, etc that destroy a lot of stuff in space, and space doesn't control chaos like it does dark energy.
Resistances Fighting, Flying, Psychic, Time
Vulnerabilities Electric, Rock, Steel, (Chaos)
- It would be pretty hard to fight in space with virtually no gravity and no leverage.
- See above in "Super Effective"
Immunities Dark
- See above in "Not Very Effective"
Matchup
Offensive:
2x against
1/2 against
0x against
Defensive:
2x from
1/2 from
0x from
Offensive:
2x:
1/2x:
0x:
Defensive:
2x:
1/2:
0x:
You can vote for up to 35 new moves (technically it should be 52 but that's really too much), 1 new Z-move and any move modification. Self-votes are allowed. Votes for identiqual submissions will be shared, so don't vote for both.
Wormhole
Typing:
Category: Special
BP: 100
Accuracy: 90
PP: 16
Effect: N/A
Z-Effect: 180 BP Dimensional Shatter
Warp Beam
Typing:
Category: Special
BP: 90
Accuracy: 100
PP: 16
Effect: 10% chance to confuse the target.
Z-Effect: 175 BP Dimensional Shatter
Astral Projection
Typing:
Category: Status
BP: --
Accuracy: --
PP: 16
Effect: Raises Attack and Special Defense by 1 Stage
Z-Effect: Restores negative stat stage changes to 0
Crash Landing
Typing:
Category: Physical
BP: 120
Accuracy: 90
PP: 24
Effect: 10% Chance to burn the user. If the user is not burned, takes 33% Recoil.
Z-Effect: 190 BP Dimensional Shatter
Astral Projection
Typing:
Category: Status
BP: --
Accuracy: --
PP: 16
Effect: Raises Attack and Special Defense by 1 Stage
Z-Effect: Restores negative stat stage changes to 0
Dimensional Shatter
Typing:
Category: Physical/Special
BP: 1
Accuracy: --
PP: 1
Effect: Power is equal to the base move's Z-Power
Cosmic Slash
Typing:
Category: Physical
Base Power: 80
Accuracy: 100
Power Point: 15 (max 24)
Effect: N/A
Z-Effect: 160 BP
Explanation/Niche: Ordinary reliable Physical move.
Spatial Outburst
Typing:
Category: Physical
Base Power: 120
Accuracy: 100
Power Point: 10 (max 16)
Effect: Inflicts damage for 2-3 turns, confuses user after.
Z-Effect: 190 BP
Explanation/Niche:type Outrage.
Rocket Smash
Typing:
Category: Physical
Base Power: 120
Accuracy: 85
Power Point: 10 (max 16)
Effect: N/A
Z-Effect: 190 BP
Explanation/Niche: Ordinary powerful but unreliable Physical move.
Celestial Beam
Typing:
Category: Special
Base Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
Power Point: 15 (max 24)
Effect: N/A
Z-Effect: 175 BP
Explanation/Niche: Ordinary reliable Special move.
Alien Blaster
Typing:
Category: Special
Base Power: 120
Accuracy: 85
Power Point: 5 (max 8)
Effect: N/A
Z-Effect: 185 BP
Explanation/Niche: Ordinary powerful but unreliable Special move.
Ozone Blast
Typing:
Category: Special
Base Power: 125
Accuracy: 95
Power Point: 5 (max 8)
Effect: Either Physical or Special, depending on which Atk. stat is higher.
Z-Effect: 190 BP
Explanation/Niche: A new signature move for Rayquaza (because of his new typing).
Supernova
Typing:
Category: Special
Base Power: 130
Accuracy: 100
Power Point: 5 (max 8)
Effect: Lowers user's Sp. Atk. by 2 stages.
Z-Effect: 195 BP
Explanation/Niche: Ordinary Draco Meteor clone.
Z-MOVE IDEAS:
- The Big Crunch
- The Big Bang
- Stellar Starnova
- Nuclear Fusion
Cosmic Power
Doom Desire
Dragon Ascent*
Hyperspace Hole
Lunar Dance
Spacial Rend
Teleport
*Retype Dragon Ascent to eitheror
Gravity Hammer
Typing:
Category:
Base Power: 75
Accuracy: 100
Power Points: 15
Effect: The target becomes grounded after being hit. Makes contact.
Z-Effect: 175 BP
Target: Selected target
Explanation/Niche: Smack Down except stronger, makes contact, and Space-type.
Astral Tackle
Typing:
Category:
Base Power: 80
Accuracy: 100
Power Points: 10
Effect: Hits on the target’s Special Defense. Makes contact.
Z-Effect: 160 BP
Target: Selected target
Explanation/Niche: Space-type reverse Psyshock to do more damage to physically bulky Pokemon.
Astral Saber
Typing:
Category:
Base Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
Power Points: 15
Effect: High critical hit ratio. Makes contact.
Z-Effect: 175 BP
Target: Selected target
Explanation/Niche: A strong physical Space-type attack.
Meteorite
Typing:
Category:
Base Power: 100
Accuracy: 100
Power Points: 10
Effect: 20% chance to cause flinching. Does not make contact.
Z-Effect: 180 BP
Target: All adjacent foes
Explanation/Niche: Kind of like Rock Slide but stronger and Space-type.
Space Force
Typing:
Category:
Base Power: 60
Accuracy: 90
Power Points: 10
Effect: -6 priority. Forces the target to switch to a random teammate.
Z-Effect: 120 BP
Target: Selected target
Explanation/Niche: Space-type phasing move.
Cosmic Shock
Typing:
Category:
Base Power: 80
Accuracy: 100
Power Points: 10
Effect: Hits on the target’s Defense.
Z-Effect: 160 BP
Target: Selected target
Explanation/Niche: Space-type Psyshock.
Cosmic Ray
Typing:
Category:
Base Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
Power Points: 15
Effect: 10% chance to lower the target's SpD by 1 stage.
Z-Effect: 175 BP
Target: Selected target
Explanation/Niche: Standard strong Space-type special attack.
Cosmic Crush
Typing:
Category:
Base Power: 110
Accuracy: 85
Power Points: 5
Effect: 30% chance to lower the target's SpD by 1 stage.
Z-Effect: 185 BP
Target: Selected target
Explanation/Niche: Standard stronger Space-type special attack.
Cosmic Nova
Typing:
Category:
Base Power: 130
Accuracy: 90
Power Points: 5
Effect: Lowers the user's SpA by 2 stages.
Z-Effect: 195 BP
Target: Selected target
Explanation/Niche: Standard very strong Space-type special attack with SpA-reducing recoil.
Celestial Power
Typing:
Category:
Base Power: --
Accuracy: --
Power Points: 20
Effect: Raises the user's SpA and Spe by 1 stage.
Z-Effect: Resets the user's lowered stat modifications
Target: Self
Explanation/Niche: Dragon Dance except for special attackers, since many Space-types will be specially oriented.
Warp Guard
Typing:
Category:
Base Power: --
Accuracy: --
Power Points: 15
Effect: Sets up a barrier that prevents the user's team from being trapped or forced out for 5 turns.
Z-Effect: Raises the user's Spe by 1 stage
Target: Ally
Explanation/Niche: Team support for set up sweepers and walls, as well as preventing phasing/hazard abuse.
Starlight
Typing:
Category:
Base Power: --
Accuracy: --
Power Points: 10
Effect: User recovers up to 50% of its max hitpoints and is cured of status.
Z-Effect: Resets the user's lowered stat modifications
Target: Self
Explanation/Niche: A recovery move.
Heart Stamp
Meteor Mash
Aurora Beam
Dazzling Gleam
Psywave
Signal Beam
Spacial Rend
Stored Power
Confuse Ray
Cosmic Power
Gravity
Magic Coat
Recycle
Reflect Type
Teleport
Signature Moves:
Dragon Ascent
Hyperspace Fury
Doom Desire
Hyperspace Hole
Photon Geyser
Psycho Boost
Meteor Dive
Type:
Category:
Base Power: 120
Accuracy: 80
Power Point Maximum: 8
Effect: 10% chance to burn the target.
Z-Power: 140
Warp Tackle
Type:
Category:
Base Power: 80
Accuracy: 100
Power Point Maximum: 16
Effect: Ignores the target's stat changes.
Z-Power: 160
Lightspeed
Type:
Category:
Base Power: 40
Accuracy: 100
Power Point Maximum: 48
Effect: Usually goes first. 30% chance to raise the user's Speed by 1.
Z-Power: 160
Accretion
Type:
Category:
Base Power: 25
Accuracy: 100
Power Point Maximum: 32
Effect: Hits 2-5 times in one turn.
Z-Power: 140
Burst Ray
Type:
Category:
Base Power: 100
Accuracy: 80
Power Point Maximum: 16
Effect: High critical hit ratio.
Z-Power: 180
Heat Drain
Type:
Category:
Base Power: 75
Accuracy: 100
Power Point Maximum: 16
Effect: User recovers 50% of damage dealt.
Z-Power: 140
Through Laser
Type:
Category:
Base Power: 60
Accuracy: 100
Power Point Maximum: 32
Effect: Does not check accuracy.
Z-Power: 120
Recombine
Type:
Category:
Base Power: -
Accuracy: -
Power Point Maximum: 16
Effect: Heals the user by 50% of its maximum HP.
Z-Effect: Restores lowered stats to 0.
Burn Off
Type:
Category:
Base Power: -
Accuracy: -
Power Point Maximum: 48
Effect: Eliminates all stat changes.
Z-Effect: Restores HP 100%.
Compress
Type:
Category:
Base Power: -
Accuracy: 100
Power Point Maximum: 24
Effect: The target's items and ability have no effect for 5 turns.
Z-Effect: Speed +2
Star Rush
Typing:
Category: Physical
Base Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
Power Point: 10 (max 16)
Effect: 10% chance to decrease the target's Defense by 1 stage.
Z-Effect: 175 BP
Explanation/Niche: Standard Space physical Attack.
Meteor Kick
Typing:
Category: Physical
Base Power: 130
Accuracy: 90
Power Point: 10 (max 16)
Effect: If this attack is not successful, the user loses half of its maximum HP, rounded down, as crash damage. Pokemon with the Ability Magic Guard are unaffected by crash damage.
Z-Effect: 195 BP
Explanation/Niche: A High Jump Kick Space-type attack, and since it is a kicking move, it could also have a good coverage distribution (if possible).
Cosmos Vacuum
Typing:
Category: Special
Base Power: 80
Accuracy: 100
Power Point: 10 (max 16)
Effect: Prevents the target from switching out. The target can still switch out if it is holding Shed Shell or uses Baton Pass, Parting Shot, U-turn, or Volt Switch. If the target leaves the field using Baton Pass, the replacement will remain trapped. The effect ends if the user leaves the field.
Z-Effect: 160 BP
Explanation/Niche: There is a thing as space vacuum, so a way to trap the target could do. I would advice to leave a few distribution.
Viral Wormhole
Typing:
Category: Special
Base Power: 120
Accuracy: 100
Power Point: 5 (max 8)
Effect: 33% recoil from damage done after a successful hit. 10% chance to render the target confused.
Z-Effect: 190 BP
Explanation/Niche: A strong Special move at the cost of Recoil damage, and the rare 10% confusion chance allows it to get it boosted by Sheer Force.
Star Shot
Typing:
Category: Special
Base Power: 40
Accuracy: 100
Power Point: 20 (max 32)
Effect: +1 Priority
Z-Effect: 100 BP
Explanation/Niche: We got very few Special priority, so why not a new one? This allows a few slow Special Attacker to finish off faster targets.
Spacial Terrain
Typing:
Category: Status
Base Power: --
Accuracy: --
Power Point: 10 (max 16)
Effect: For 5 turns (or 8 turns with Terrain Extender), the terrain becomes Spatial Terrain. During the effect, the power of Space-type attacks made by grounded Pokemon is multiplied by 1.5 and Speed of all grounded Pokémon remains normal during the effect as the Speed changes are ignored (including Choice Scarf and Abilities like Shift Swim). Camouflage transforms the user into a Space type, Nature Power becomes <Standard Special Space Move>, and Secret Power has a 30% chance to inflict a Gravity effect to the target. Fails if the current terrain is Spatial Terrain.
Z-Effect: 1+ SpA
Explanation/Niche: I can't help it making new Terrains, okay? (Time have their own "field effect" called Trick Room, and Gravity is pretty much too situational) This allows Speed control by preventing Choice Scarf from working and take down Pokémon relent on weather-based Ability like Shift Swim and Chlorophyll (RIP Mega Swampert) and give an extra oomph for Space-type moves.
Stargaze Shield
Typing:
Category: Status
Base Power: --
Accuracy: --
Power Point: 10 (max 16)
Effect: The user is protected from most attacks made by other Pokemon during this turn, and Pokemon trying to use non-contact with the user have their Special Attack lowered by 2 stages. Non-damaging moves go through this protection. This move has a 1/X chance of being successful, where X starts at 1 and triples each time this move is successfully used. X resets to 1 if this move fails or if the user's last move used is not Baneful Bunker, Detect, Endure, King's Shield, Protect, Quick Guard, Spiky Shield, Wide Guard, Stargaze Shield or other similar moves. Fails if the user moves last this turn.
Z-Effect: Clears the user's negative stat boosts
Explanation/Niche: A counterpart to King's Shield, and a good way to control Special Attackers. Remember that non-damaging moves can go through this protection, so don't use it to save yourself from Taunt.
Spacial Rend
Typing:
Category: Special
Base Power: 100
Accuracy: 95
Power Point: 5 (max 8)
Effect: Has a higher chance of critical hit, clean off field effects such as normal weathers, rooms and terrains except Spacial Terrain after a successful hit.
Z-Effect: 180 BP
Explanation/Niche: Spacial Rend is exclusive to Palkia, Arceus and Darkrai, which are all Ubers. It was mostly done to help Palkia (and Space Arceus) to have a very good STAB for field control.
Gravity
Typing:
Category: Status
Base Power: --
Accuracy: --
Power Point: 5 (max 8)
Effect: For 5 turns, the evasiveness of all active Pokemon is multiplied by 0.6. At the time of use, Bounce, Fly, Magnet Rise, Sky Drop, and Telekinesis end immediately for all active Pokemon. During the effect, Bounce, Fly, Flying Press, High Jump Kick, Jump Kick, Magnet Rise, Sky Drop, Splash, and Telekinesis are prevented from being used by all active non-Space Pokemon. Ground-type attacks, Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Sticky Web, and the Ability Arena Trap can affect Flying types or Pokemon with the Ability Levitate. Fails if this move is already in effect.
Z-Effect: +2 SpA
Explanation/Niche: Modified Gravity so that Space Pokémon can use the moves that normally cannot work in Gravity. I also purposefully buff the Z-Move version to encourage manual use of Gravity.
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You can vote for a maximum of 5 abilities. Self-votes are allowed.
Omniscient
Effect: Immune tomoves
Explanation/Niche: Ordinary immunity ability.
Spatialize
Effect: Convertsmoves to
moves and 1.2x BP
Explanation/Niche: Ordinary -ate/-ize ability.
Celestial Body
Effect: Contact moves used against a Pokémon with this ability have a 10% chance of flinching the user of the contact move, preventing the move from being used.
Explanation/Niche:
Far Presence
Effect: Immune tomoves.
Sky Control
Effect: Weather-setting moves last three turns longer than they normally would. This stacks with Damp Rock and other items.
Space Anchor
(
maybe?)
Effect: This Pokemon cannot be forced to switch out by another Pokemon's attack or item.
Star Guider
Effect: Moves that can burn the target do not check accuracy.
Supernova
Effect: At ⅓ or less HP, the user's attacking stat is 1.5x when usingmoves.
You can vote for one item of each type. Self-votes are allowed.
Spacium-Z
If holder has a Space move, this item allows it to use a Space Z-Move.
Galaxy Plate
Holder's Space-type attacks have 1.2x power. Judgment is Space type.
Space Memory
Holder's Multi-Attack is Space type.
Stardust
Holder's Space-type attacks have 1.2x power.
Star Plate
Effect: 1.2x BP tomoves. Changes Arceus and Judgement totype.
Explanation/Niche: Ordinary Arceus plate.
Moon Dirt
Effect: 1.2x BP tomoves.
Explanation/Niche: Ordinary BP boosting item.
Space Memory
Effect: Changes Silvally and Multi-Attack totype.
Explanation/Niche: Ordinary memory.
Spacium Z
Effect: Allowstype Z-moves to be used.
Explanation/Niche: Ordinary Z-Crystal.
Starry Orb
Effect: Boosts the power of the holder's moves by 30%, but confuses the holder after every turn. Boosts power by 15% and doesn't confuse if the holder has Own Tempo.
Explanation/Niche:
You can vote for 1 modification per pokemon. Votes for identical submissions will be shared. Self-votes are allowed.
Alt Forms:
Clefable line:
Wigglytuff:
Alakazam line:
Starmie:
Solrock & Lunatone:
Rayquaza*:
Jirachi:(maybe?)
Deoxys:
Dusknoir:
Palkia:
Cresselia:
Gothitelle line:
Beheeyem line:
Hoopa:
Unbound Hoopa:
Minior:
Cosmog & Cosmoem:
Solgaleo:
Lunala:
AND NOW, ULTRA BEASTS
Nihilego:
Xurkitree:
Celesteela:
Kartana:
Guzzlord:
*If Rayquaza became, Dragon Ascent would need to be retyped to eitheror.
Rotom-Clock
Edited Rotom-Fan / Edited Rotom-Frost
Rotom-Defibrillator (with or without aura inside handle)
Edited Rotom-Freeze
Rotom-Telescope
Heavily Edited Rotom (normal)
Gothitelle line
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Stats changes: N/A
Ability changes: N/A
Explanation/Niche: Gothorita’s Pokedex states that “starlight is the source of their power.” Gothitelle’s Pokedex states that its intense psychic power can distort space such that you can see faraway stars.
Minior
=>
Stats changes: N/A
Ability changes: N/A
Explanation/Niche: It’s pretty much a meteorite or “shooting star.” While its Pokedex states that it lives in the ozone layer rather than in outer space, I think the space association in strong enough.
Cresselia
=>
Stats changes: N/A
Ability changes: N/A
Explanation/Niche: It’s based on the moon.
Solrock
Base Stats: 105 / 120 / 100 / 55 / 80 / 90
Lunatone
Base Stats: 105 / 55 / 80 / 120 / 100 / 90
Their original stats are too low to be remotely useful, so their Attack and Special Attack (respectively) are boosted to more reasonable level while having a more useful Speed. Solrock have better overall physical bulk while Lunatone is bulkier on the Special side, while not too crippled on the opposing bulk side either. And since they remains Rock-type, they can appreciate the Special Defense boost when in Sandstorm (Lunatone especially) much more.
(not base formes, they need a niche lol)
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- Fairy/Space - Connected with the moon, it just makes sense.
- Space/Time - Our first all-new dual type, and since they're connected to both space and time, it makes sense.
,
, and
- Space/Rock - I put them all together because with this new typing, they become an interesting trio.
- Space/Steel - It's a shooting star. I'm replacing psychic because steel fits more and psychic seems to be the go-to space typing before we added space.
- Space - I was thinking of putting it as space/psychic, but honestly it makes sense to just make it pure space.
- Space/Dragon - If I can't make it steel the least I can do is get rid of the water type.
- Space/Psychic - Obvious reasons.
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- Space/Psychic - Powered by space and all that.
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- Space - From space, don't really have much reasoning for the psychic type once the space type exists.
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- Electric/Space - As connected to the sun as clefable is connected to the moon. Probably my most controversial pick.
- Space/Ghost - Creates teleportation rings.
- Space/Dark - See Hoopa.
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- Space - Obvious Reasons, they even look like the night sky
- Space/Steel - Sun
- Space/Ghost - Moon
- Space/Poison - Since all the ultra beasts are from different dimensions, they all make sense to be space, so instead i'll ask if their original types make sense. Nihilego doesn't make sense as rock, really, as it's just.... a floating jellyfish.
- Space/Bug - While I can deffinitely see the bug and Buzzwole totally makes sense as a fighting/bug, pheromosa has no reason being fighting..... So Space fits more.
- Space/Electric - It doesn't have a second type, so it's fine to be space/electric!
- Steel/Space - can someone give me a reason it's flying? beyond it "flying at high speeds" in one pokedex entry, i don't really see it.
- Dark/Space - I really don't see the dragon.
- Space - I don't think I need to explain this, beyond "it's from another world and it has no real reason to be psychic-type anymore"
- Space/Steel - no need to explain
- Space/Ghost - You already understand, right?
- Space/Dragon - When Light-type becomes a thing this will be space/light, since that fits a lot more than psychic/dragon.
- Poison/Space - I don't see the dragon in this one either. Probably my second most controversial one.
And that's all of the ones I'll say.
Pokemon Retypes:-
Fairy --> Fairy/Space
It is often claimed that these Pokémon come from the Moon, and they certainly have an affinity for it.
Rock/Psychic --> Rock/Space
They're celestial bodies, lads.
Psychic --> Psychic/Space
It shows up on a friggin' meteor, people, what more do you want?
Normal --> Normal/Space
Not a lot of people know this, but Porygon-Z was initially devised as an experiment to be sent into deep space, whereupon it Came Back Wrong.
Water/Dragon --> Space/Dragon
The Dragon of Space. Nuff said.
Psychic --> Space
They are literal pissing space aliens.
Hoopa: Psychic/Ghost --> Psychic/Space
Hoopa-Unbound: Psychic/Dark --> Space/Dark
Now, I realize that this is more of a stretch, but it talks about abusing hyperspace in its signature move. Also, this is the only one I can think of that really fits a Space/Dark retype.
Rock/Flying --> Space/Flying
Lads. It's a meteor.
Cosmog, Cosmoem: Psychic --> Space
Solgaleo: Psychic/Steel --> Steel/Space
Lunala: Psychic/Ghost --> Space/Ghost
Nebby, get in your space bag.
Steel/Flying --> Steel/Space
It's a rocket ship. We see that in USUM.
Why are the Rotom forms in the Edited Pokemon section? Just a little question
Where else? I don't think creating a new section for 3 more submissions is really necessary...
K, good. I thought that you thought something else.
Type Effectiveness: Gravity Monkey
Moves
Astral Projection
Rocket Smash
Gravity Hammer
Astral Tackle
Astral Saber
Lightspeed
Recombine
Heat Drain
Compress
Meteor Kick
Cosmos Vacuum
Star Shot
Spacial Terrain (Designing Cosmos Vacuum as Nature Power move)
Stargaze Shield
Spacial Rend (Samtendo09's modified version)
Photon Geyser
Solar Wind
Cosmic Force
Crash Land
Astro Pulse
Meteor Mash
Hyperspace Hole
Z-Move: Event Horizon
Abilities
Spatialize
Spacial Surge
Absolute Zero
Gravity Pull
Sky Control
Items
Spacium-Z
Space Memory
Star Plate
Starbola Berry
Spacial Seed
Pokémon Modification
Palkia (Space/Dragon)
Clefable line (Fairy/Space)
Gothitelle line (Psychic/Space)
Starmie line (Water/Space)
Beheeyem line (Space)
Jirachi (Space/Steel)
Deoxys (Space)
Minior (Space/Rock)
Cosmog & Cosmoem (Space)
Solgaleo (Space/Steel)
Lunala (Space/Ghost)
Necrozma, Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, Necrozma-Dawn-Wings and Necrozma-Ultra (Space, Space/Steel, Space/Ghost and Space/Dragon)
Hoopa & Hoopa-Unbound (Space/Ghost + Space/Dark respectively)
Solrock (Rock/Space, my version which give them buffed stats)
Lunatone (Rock/Space, my version which give them buffed stats)
Unown (Time/Space)
Moves
Astral Projection
Rocket Smash
Gravity Hammer
Astral Tackle
Astral Saber
Lightspeed
Recombine
Heat Drain
Compress
Meteor Kick
Cosmos Vacuum
Star Shot
Spacial Terrain (Designing Cosmos Vacuum as Nature Power move)
Stargaze Shield
Spacial Rend (Samtendo09's modified version)
Photon Geyser
Solar Wind
Cosmic Force
Crash Land
Astro Pulse
Meteor Mash
Hyperspace Hole
Z-Move: Event Horizon
Abilities
Spatialize
Spacial Surge
Absolute Zero
Gravity Pull
Sky Control
Items
Spacium-Z
Space Memory
Star Plate
Starbola Berry
Spacial Seed
Pokémon Modification
Palkia (Space/Dragon)
Clefable line (Fairy/Space)
Gothitelle line (Psychic/Space)
Starmie line (Water/Space)
Beheeyem line (Space)
Jirachi (Space/Steel)
Deoxys (Space)
Minior (Space/Rock)
Cosmog & Cosmoem (Space)
Solgaleo (Space/Steel)
Lunala (Space/Ghost)
Necrozma, Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, Necrozma-Dawn-Wings and Necrozma-Ultra (Space, Space/Steel, Space/Ghost and Space/Dragon)
Hoopa & Hoopa-Unbound (Space/Ghost + Space/Dark respectively)
Solrock (Rock/Space, my version which give them buffed stats)
Lunatone (Rock/Space, my version which give them buffed stats)
Unown (Time/Space)
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Matchup:
G-Luke
Moves:
Astral Projection (DatHeatmor)
Gravity Hammer (Origin0)
Astral Tackle (Origin0)
Astral Saber (Origin0)
Meteorite (Origin0)
Space Force (Origin0)
Cosmic Shock (Origin0)
Celestial Power (Origin0)
Warp Guard (Origin0)
Starlight (Origin0)
Meteor Kick (Samtendo09)
Cosmos Vacuum (Samtendo09)
Spacial Terrain (Samtendo09, Designing Cosmos Vacuum as Nature Power move)
Stargaze Shield (Samtendo09)
Star Shot (Samtendo09)
Solar Wind (ToadBrigade)
Cosmic Force (ToadBrigade)
Lightspeed (Tiksi)
Accretion (Tiksi)
Heat Drain (Tiksi)
Compress (Tiksi)
Swift
Gravity (Samtendo09's modified version)
Cosmic Power
Meteor Mash
Hyperspace Hole
Spacial Rend (Samtendo09's modified version)
Z-move: Event Horizon
Abilities:
Astralize (Origin0)
Spacial Surge (Samtendo09)
Gravity Pull (Samtendo09)
Absolute Zero (ToadBrigade)
Sky Control (Tiksi)
Items:
Spacium-Z
Space Memory
Galaxy Plate
Starbola Berry
Meteor Fragment
Spacial Seed
Pokemon Modifications:
Space/Dragon Palkia (DatHeatmor)
Space/Fairy Clefable line (DatHeatmor)
Water/Space Starmie line (DatHeatmor)
Steel/Space Jirachi (DatHeatmor)
Psychic/Space Beheeyem line (DatHeatmor)
Space/Ghost Hoopa-Confined (DatHeatmor)
Space/Dark Hoopa-Unbound (DatHeatmor)
Space Cosmog and Cosmoem (DatHeatmor)
Space/Steel Solgaleo (DatHeatmor)
Space/Ghost Lunala (DatHeatmor)
Psychic/Space Gothitelle line (Origin0)
Space/Psychic Cresselia (Origin0)
Rock/Space Minior (Origin0)
Space/Poison Nihilego (G-Luke)
Space/Steel Celesteela (G-Luke)
Dragon/Space Latios-Mega and Latias-Mega (G-Luke)
Space/Psychic Deoxys (Gojiratar)
Space Necrozma (Gojiratar)
Space/Steel Necrozma-Dusk-Mane (Gojiratar)
Space/Ghost Necrozma-Dawn-Wings (Gojiratar)
Space/Dragon Necrozma-Ultra (Gojiratar)
Time/Space Unown (Gojiratar)
Rock/Space Solrock and Lunatone (Samtendo09)
Normal/Space Porygon-Z (colourcodedchaos)
G-Luke
Moves:
Astral Projection (DatHeatmor)
Gravity Hammer (Origin0)
Astral Tackle (Origin0)
Astral Saber (Origin0)
Meteorite (Origin0)
Space Force (Origin0)
Cosmic Shock (Origin0)
Celestial Power (Origin0)
Warp Guard (Origin0)
Starlight (Origin0)
Meteor Kick (Samtendo09)
Cosmos Vacuum (Samtendo09)
Spacial Terrain (Samtendo09, Designing Cosmos Vacuum as Nature Power move)
Stargaze Shield (Samtendo09)
Star Shot (Samtendo09)
Solar Wind (ToadBrigade)
Cosmic Force (ToadBrigade)
Lightspeed (Tiksi)
Accretion (Tiksi)
Heat Drain (Tiksi)
Compress (Tiksi)
Swift
Gravity (Samtendo09's modified version)
Cosmic Power
Meteor Mash
Hyperspace Hole
Spacial Rend (Samtendo09's modified version)
Z-move: Event Horizon
Abilities:
Astralize (Origin0)
Spacial Surge (Samtendo09)
Gravity Pull (Samtendo09)
Absolute Zero (ToadBrigade)
Sky Control (Tiksi)
Items:
Spacium-Z
Space Memory
Galaxy Plate
Starbola Berry
Meteor Fragment
Spacial Seed
Pokemon Modifications:
Space/Dragon Palkia (DatHeatmor)
Space/Fairy Clefable line (DatHeatmor)
Water/Space Starmie line (DatHeatmor)
Steel/Space Jirachi (DatHeatmor)
Psychic/Space Beheeyem line (DatHeatmor)
Space/Ghost Hoopa-Confined (DatHeatmor)
Space/Dark Hoopa-Unbound (DatHeatmor)
Space Cosmog and Cosmoem (DatHeatmor)
Space/Steel Solgaleo (DatHeatmor)
Space/Ghost Lunala (DatHeatmor)
Psychic/Space Gothitelle line (Origin0)
Space/Psychic Cresselia (Origin0)
Rock/Space Minior (Origin0)
Space/Poison Nihilego (G-Luke)
Space/Steel Celesteela (G-Luke)
Dragon/Space Latios-Mega and Latias-Mega (G-Luke)
Space/Psychic Deoxys (Gojiratar)
Space Necrozma (Gojiratar)
Space/Steel Necrozma-Dusk-Mane (Gojiratar)
Space/Ghost Necrozma-Dawn-Wings (Gojiratar)
Space/Dragon Necrozma-Ultra (Gojiratar)
Time/Space Unown (Gojiratar)
Rock/Space Solrock and Lunatone (Samtendo09)
Normal/Space Porygon-Z (colourcodedchaos)
Astral Projection (DatHeatmor)
Gravity Hammer (Origin0)
Astral Tackle (Origin0)
Astral Saber (Origin0)
Meteorite (Origin0)
Space Force (Origin0)
Cosmic Shock (Origin0)
Celestial Power (Origin0)
Warp Guard (Origin0)
Starlight (Origin0)
Meteor Kick (Samtendo09)
Cosmos Vacuum (Samtendo09)
Stargaze Shield (Samtendo09)
Star Shot (Samtendo09)
Solar Wind (ToadBrigade)
Cosmic Force (ToadBrigade)
Lightspeed (Tiksi)
Accretion (Tiksi)
Meteor Dive (Tiksi)
Recombine (Tiksi)
Heat Drain (Tiksi)
Compress (Tiksi)
Swift
Gravity (Samtendo09's modified version)
Cosmic Power
Stored Power
Comet Punch
Doom Desire
Lunar Dance
Meteor Mash
Hyperspace Hole
Spacial Rend (Samtendo09's modified version)
Z-move: Event Horizon
Abilities:
Gravity Pull (Samtendo09)
Zero Gravity (ToadBrigade)
Sky Control (Tiksi)
Gravitational Pull (PsuedoRidge)[Change Name]
Wormhole (Origin0)
Items:
Spacium-Z
Space Memory
Galaxy Plate
Starbola Berry
Meteor Fragment
Spacial Seed
Pokemon Modifications:
Space/Dragon Palkia (DatHeatmor)
Space/Fairy Clefable line (DatHeatmor)
Water/Space Starmie line (DatHeatmor)
Steel/Space Jirachi (DatHeatmor)
Space Beheeyem line (G-Luke)
Space/Ghost Hoopa-Confined (DatHeatmor)
Space/Dark Hoopa-Unbound (DatHeatmor)
Space Cosmog and Cosmoem (DatHeatmor)
Space/Steel Solgaleo (DatHeatmor)
Space/Ghost Lunala (DatHeatmor)
Psychic/Space Gothitelle line (Origin0)
Space/Psychic Cresselia (Origin0)
Space/Flying Minior (colourcodedchaos)
Space/Poison Nihilego (G-Luke)
Space/Steel Celesteela (G-Luke)
Dragon/Space Latios-Mega and Latias-Mega (G-Luke)
Space Deoxys (G-Luke)
Space Necrozma (Gojiratar)
Space/Steel Necrozma-Dusk-Mane (Gojiratar)
Space/Ghost Necrozma-Dawn-Wings (Gojiratar)
Space/Dragon Necrozma-Ultra (Gojiratar)
Time/Space Unown (Gojiratar)
Rock/Space Solrock and Lunatone (Samtendo09)
Normal/Space Porygon-Z (colourcodedchaos)
Gravity Hammer (Origin0)
Astral Tackle (Origin0)
Astral Saber (Origin0)
Meteorite (Origin0)
Space Force (Origin0)
Cosmic Shock (Origin0)
Celestial Power (Origin0)
Warp Guard (Origin0)
Starlight (Origin0)
Meteor Kick (Samtendo09)
Cosmos Vacuum (Samtendo09)
Stargaze Shield (Samtendo09)
Star Shot (Samtendo09)
Solar Wind (ToadBrigade)
Cosmic Force (ToadBrigade)
Lightspeed (Tiksi)
Accretion (Tiksi)
Meteor Dive (Tiksi)
Recombine (Tiksi)
Heat Drain (Tiksi)
Compress (Tiksi)
Swift
Gravity (Samtendo09's modified version)
Cosmic Power
Stored Power
Comet Punch
Doom Desire
Lunar Dance
Meteor Mash
Hyperspace Hole
Spacial Rend (Samtendo09's modified version)
Z-move: Event Horizon
Abilities:
Gravity Pull (Samtendo09)
Zero Gravity (ToadBrigade)
Sky Control (Tiksi)
Gravitational Pull (PsuedoRidge)[Change Name]
Wormhole (Origin0)
Items:
Spacium-Z
Space Memory
Galaxy Plate
Starbola Berry
Meteor Fragment
Spacial Seed
Pokemon Modifications:
Space/Dragon Palkia (DatHeatmor)
Space/Fairy Clefable line (DatHeatmor)
Water/Space Starmie line (DatHeatmor)
Steel/Space Jirachi (DatHeatmor)
Space Beheeyem line (G-Luke)
Space/Ghost Hoopa-Confined (DatHeatmor)
Space/Dark Hoopa-Unbound (DatHeatmor)
Space Cosmog and Cosmoem (DatHeatmor)
Space/Steel Solgaleo (DatHeatmor)
Space/Ghost Lunala (DatHeatmor)
Psychic/Space Gothitelle line (Origin0)
Space/Psychic Cresselia (Origin0)
Space/Flying Minior (colourcodedchaos)
Space/Poison Nihilego (G-Luke)
Space/Steel Celesteela (G-Luke)
Dragon/Space Latios-Mega and Latias-Mega (G-Luke)
Space Deoxys (G-Luke)
Space Necrozma (Gojiratar)
Space/Steel Necrozma-Dusk-Mane (Gojiratar)
Space/Ghost Necrozma-Dawn-Wings (Gojiratar)
Space/Dragon Necrozma-Ultra (Gojiratar)
Time/Space Unown (Gojiratar)
Rock/Space Solrock and Lunatone (Samtendo09)
Normal/Space Porygon-Z (colourcodedchaos)
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Omniscient
Spatialize
Gravity Pull
Nuclear Fusion
Zero Gravity
Spatialize
Gravity Pull
Nuclear Fusion
Zero Gravity
Astral Projection (DatHeatmor)
Gravity Hammer (Origin0)
Astral Saber (Origin0)
Meteorite (Origin0)
Cosmic Shock (Origin0)
Cosmic Ray (Origin0)
Cosmic Nova (Origin0)
Celestial Power (Origin0)
Starlight (Origin0)
Rocket Smash (PsuedoRidge)
Alien Blaster (PsuedoRidge)
Ozone Blast (PsuedoRidge)
Starshot (Samtendo09)
Cosmos Vacuum (Samtendo09)
Accretion (Tiksi)
Z-Move: Event Horizon
Gravity Hammer (Origin0)
Astral Saber (Origin0)
Meteorite (Origin0)
Cosmic Shock (Origin0)
Cosmic Ray (Origin0)
Cosmic Nova (Origin0)
Celestial Power (Origin0)
Starlight (Origin0)
Rocket Smash (PsuedoRidge)
Alien Blaster (PsuedoRidge)
Ozone Blast (PsuedoRidge)
Starshot (Samtendo09)
Cosmos Vacuum (Samtendo09)
Accretion (Tiksi)
Z-Move: Event Horizon
Spacium-Z (DatHeatmor, PsuedoRidge, colourcodedchaos)
Star Plate (PsuedoRidge)
Space Memory (DatHeatmor, PsuedoRidge, ToadBrigade, colorcodedchaos)
Stardust (DatHeatmor)
Juna Berry (ToadBrigade)
Star Plate (PsuedoRidge)
Space Memory (DatHeatmor, PsuedoRidge, ToadBrigade, colorcodedchaos)
Stardust (DatHeatmor)
Juna Berry (ToadBrigade)
Matchups: Origin0
probably not gonna do pokemon retypes
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While we are at it, we should considerate that Dark-type would have a fifth type to be strong against (Ghost, Psychic, Time, Heart and eventually Space if done) if the match-up with Dark being SE against Space had won. I get that Dark-type had only two resistances (itself and Ghost) and one immunity (Psychic) prior to Heart being the first Pet Mod Type to win, but now it already got both a much more favorable offensive and defensive matchup. Let's not forget that because of that, Knock Off had become an even more favorable coverage move.
It already happened to Ice where it already got four new whopping resistances (Flying, Ground, Heart and Time iirc) and unlike Ice, Dark-type's do have more than one resistance and have one less weakness than Ice. All I'm gonna say overall is to try not to go overboard and make a Type that would be vulnerable to a Type that is already great or had already got buffed up.
And this would be more difficult as more and more new Types are coming up, but not impossible with our efficient community input and efforts. Sound, Light and even Chaos are those who are more likely to be inevitable, but even then try at least avoid favoring a pre-existing Type that is already good unless if you feels like you wanted that type to become a coverage-viable type (and wasn't a common coverage type, like Water and Dragon).
Of course, I will not stop anybody from letting Dark-type having a fifth type it would be strong against, in fact if it become the case, good. I just wanted people to take these into consideration.
tl;dr: Dark may end up be strong against five type total, and have bit too favorable buff like Ice had, but I do not, will not and cannot force others not to for good matchup vs Space.
It already happened to Ice where it already got four new whopping resistances (Flying, Ground, Heart and Time iirc) and unlike Ice, Dark-type's do have more than one resistance and have one less weakness than Ice. All I'm gonna say overall is to try not to go overboard and make a Type that would be vulnerable to a Type that is already great or had already got buffed up.
And this would be more difficult as more and more new Types are coming up, but not impossible with our efficient community input and efforts. Sound, Light and even Chaos are those who are more likely to be inevitable, but even then try at least avoid favoring a pre-existing Type that is already good unless if you feels like you wanted that type to become a coverage-viable type (and wasn't a common coverage type, like Water and Dragon).
Of course, I will not stop anybody from letting Dark-type having a fifth type it would be strong against, in fact if it become the case, good. I just wanted people to take these into consideration.
tl;dr: Dark may end up be strong against five type total, and have bit too favorable buff like Ice had, but I do not, will not and cannot force others not to for good matchup vs Space.
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Samtendo09 is now part of the council! Yay!
Also, you have around 48 hours to wrap up your votes!
Samtendo09 is now part of the council! Yay!
Also, you have around 48 hours to wrap up your votes!
While everyone's dead waiting for results, im just gonna... leave this here...
Credit to PsuedoRidge for spriting the original, just thought i would touch it up a bit and add an animation. I also made a edited sprite for a Rotom-Clock, and ill show it here but i couldnt manage to get a Rotom for space because perspective is wonky. I love all of them.
Credit to PsuedoRidge for spriting the original, just thought i would touch it up a bit and add an animation. I also made a edited sprite for a Rotom-Clock, and ill show it here but i couldnt manage to get a Rotom for space because perspective is wonky. I love all of them.
As I'm now part of the council, I just want to say that I will make sure as many Pokémon will be benefited from their new Typings as possible. I'll also focus on making unusual moves, making Abilities that will help the Type or deal with them, and buff Pokémon with pretty weak BST to have better stats and allows for better usage of their typing.
I mean, sure, bad defensive typing can be detrimental, but that will not stop me from at least buffing pathetic BST so that they can perform beyong PU and even NU.
The following list is only theoric and is only a plan, thus not counted toward anything, just listing potential Pokémon with below average BST.
I mean, sure, bad defensive typing can be detrimental, but that will not stop me from at least buffing pathetic BST so that they can perform beyong PU and even NU.
The following list is only theoric and is only a plan, thus not counted toward anything, just listing potential Pokémon with below average BST.
Sound have Exploud line, Wigglytuff line, Chatot, and other Pokémon known to be loud or associated with music. The first three suffers from either low BST or lacked of real specialty.
Light have Shiinotic, Ledian, Lanturn, Bellossom, Watchog and a few others as potential candidates. Shiinotic and Ledian suffers the worst in term of low BST.
Chaos have good enough candidates with high BST, though since Chaos basically means "not depended on the law and is unpredictable", I may consider to put Persian (and Alolan form), Raticate (and Alola form), Dodrio and Misdreavous to the list.
Whim have the Tapus, but I can also buff a few like Whimsicott and Klefki.
Noble would also have a good amount of Pokémon candidates with good BST, but I'll fix some of the bad stats for Pokémon like the Hariyama line.
Not much to say about the rest, but I will help out if your potential type idea might have candidates that would suffer from low BST.
Light have Shiinotic, Ledian, Lanturn, Bellossom, Watchog and a few others as potential candidates. Shiinotic and Ledian suffers the worst in term of low BST.
Chaos have good enough candidates with high BST, though since Chaos basically means "not depended on the law and is unpredictable", I may consider to put Persian (and Alolan form), Raticate (and Alola form), Dodrio and Misdreavous to the list.
Whim have the Tapus, but I can also buff a few like Whimsicott and Klefki.
Noble would also have a good amount of Pokémon candidates with good BST, but I'll fix some of the bad stats for Pokémon like the Hariyama line.
Not much to say about the rest, but I will help out if your potential type idea might have candidates that would suffer from low BST.
Absol will most likely end up being
Edit: I also made the clock transparent. This is my first time using non anti-aliasing paint bucket, and I need to use it more
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I don't know if I'm allowed to vote, but I'm going to anyways.
Matchups: Tiksi
Moves: Gravity Hammer
Star Rush
Cosmic Slash
Celestial Beam
Alien Blaster
Supernova
Astral Projection
Crash Landing
Warp Guard
Cosmic Power
Doom Desire
Hyperspace Hole
Hyperspace Fury
Lunar Dance
Spacial Rend
Teleport
Gravity
Meteor Mash
Abilities: Gravity Pull
Nuclear Fusion
Nuclear Fission
Zero Gravity
Pokemon: Fairy/Space Clefable line
Space Solrock
Space Lunatone
Space/Dragon Dialga
Space Deoxys
Rock/Space Minior
Space Necrozma
Space/Dragon Ultra Necrozma
Space Beheeyem line
Space Cosmog/Cosmoem
Space/Ghost Lunala
Space/Steel Solgaleo
Steel/Space Metagross line
Items: Star Plate
Spacium Z
Matchups: Tiksi
Moves: Gravity Hammer
Star Rush
Cosmic Slash
Celestial Beam
Alien Blaster
Supernova
Astral Projection
Crash Landing
Warp Guard
Cosmic Power
Doom Desire
Hyperspace Hole
Hyperspace Fury
Lunar Dance
Spacial Rend
Teleport
Gravity
Meteor Mash
Abilities: Gravity Pull
Nuclear Fusion
Nuclear Fission
Zero Gravity
Pokemon: Fairy/Space Clefable line
Space Solrock
Space Lunatone
Space/Dragon Dialga
Space Deoxys
Rock/Space Minior
Space Necrozma
Space/Dragon Ultra Necrozma
Space Beheeyem line
Space Cosmog/Cosmoem
Space/Ghost Lunala
Space/Steel Solgaleo
Steel/Space Metagross line
Items: Star Plate
Spacium Z
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