Ubers Tamed

[Monte Cristo]

approved by Hollywood
Ubers Tamed:
Ubers Tamed is a pet mod designed to Take all Uber threats and decrease their level of power to be OU managable. The Below changelog has (edit) finally been completed! have fun browsing through the changelog.
RULES:
UBERS TAKEN TO OU LEVEL

changelog

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  Mega Gengar

Abilities: Prankster
Stats: 60 / 95 / 80 / 150 / 85 / 120 (shifted BST 30 points to atk in order to keep mega evo BST rule)

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  Kyogre

Stats: 100 / 100 / 90 / 105 / 100 / 90
Movepool: -Calm Mind, - Water Spout, - Thunder

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  Mewtwo-Normal

Stats: 90 / 95 / 106 / 130 / 80 / 106

Mega-Mewtwo-Y
Stats: 90 / 135 / 86 / 150 / 110 / 116

Mega-Mewtwo-X
Stats: 90 / 150 / 96 / 130 / 90 / 106

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  Xerneas

Stats: 100 / 100 / 90 / 115 / 75 / 95
Movepool:

Geomancy- Boosts SpA,SDef and Spe by 1 stage​

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  All FORMS- Arceus

Stats: 100 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 100

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  Blaziken-Normal

Stats: 80 / 125 / 80 / 120 / 70 / 81
Abilities: Blaze / Defiant

Mega-Blaziken:
Abilities: Vital Spirit
Stats: 80 / 165 / 90 / 140 / 80 / 101

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  Palkia

Stats: 90 / 100 / 90 / 130 / 120 / 100
Movepool: - Fire Blast, - Flamethrower

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  Yveltal

Stats: 110 / 105 / 90 / 120 / 85 / 99

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  Darkrai

Abilities: Levitate
Movepool: - Dark Void, - Nasty Plot

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  Lucario-Mega

Abilities: Justified

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  Kangaskhan-Mega

Abilities: A Nerfed Parental Bond

Parental Bond- second hit is only 30% as strong​

Stats: 105/125/90/75/95/100

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  Genesect

Abilities: Lightningrod

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  Groudon

Stats: 95/130/120/90/75/90

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  Rayquaza

Stats: 100/130/90/110/80/90

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  Lugia

Abilities: Pressure / Cloud Nine
Stats: 96/85/100/90/115/100

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  Ho-Oh

Stats: 96/120/96/100/115/90

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  Reshiram

Stats: 90/100/90/135/100/95

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  Zekrom

Stats: 90/135/100/100/90/95

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  Kyurem-W

Stats: 100/110/90/145/90/95

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  Dialga

Stats: 100/100/95/130/100/90

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  Giratina
  • (Normal) Giratina -

Stats: 100/90/110/90/105/90

• • (Origin) Giratina -

Stats: 100/120/100/100/100/100

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  Deoxys

Stats: 55/130/50/130/50/111

Deoxys-Attack
Stats: 55/150/20/150/20/102
Movepool (both): - Knock Off

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  Shaymin-Sky

Abilities: Chlorophyll

 

[nightsitter]

I like this idea. A few questions I have: Why do the two Uber formes of Deoxys now have different HP stats? The same applies to Giratina.

Quite a few of those might need additional nerfs as well. Kyogre, both MegaTwos, Palkia, Yveltal, Groudon, Rayquaza, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem-W, Dialga, and both Giratina formes all look excessively powerful for the OU metagame.

 

[Ranger Mike]

Yeah... Kyogre is still uber IMO because choice specs hydro pump in rain dents everything that's not a blob, think you can stop it with a bulky water? Bam thunder to the face. If you have a grass time good luck taking an ice beam.
Shrek for s+++ rank!

 

[MegaGallade]

IMO Arceus has been made too weak, but maybe change Kyogre and Groudon's abilities.
Btw, having two out of three Hoenn Starters with the same hidden ability just feels weird.
Nethertheless, I like this idea, it is very original. :)

 

[nightsitter]

Are we allowed to submit suggestions for changes?

 

[Monte Cristo]

Are we allowed to submit suggestions for changes?

you can submit minor suggestions ,just not revamping the entire thing, for isntance fixing the hp numbers on deoxys or finding a balanced SpA for kyogre or re adjusting giratina although I will try to do those on my own, thanks for trying to help :) and thanks for the feedback :)

edit so I don't double post:
HUGE UPDATE
the following have been nerfed harder for balance:

• blaziken has defiant even though it's not for balance, just gotta add that here
• nerfed mm2s
• nerfed kyogre, less spA no thunder
• nerfed palkia no more fire blast/flamethrower
• fixed HPs for doexys and gira
• I nerfed the giras' bulk

 

[nightsitter]

Perhaps the most important changes to make:

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  Kyogre

Stats: 90 / 100 / 90 / 100 / 100 / 80

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  Giratina

Stats: 110/90/100/90/100/90

• Giratina-Origin

Stats: 110/100/90/100/90/90

Deo-A should get 50 base HP like its normal counterpart.

A lot of the others should probably get further nerfs to other stats. Otherwise, they still have BSTs of over 600 and access to excellent movepools. They'd simply be overcentralizing.

 

[Monte Cristo]

Perhaps the most important changes to make:

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  Kyogre

Stats: 90 / 100 / 90 / 100 / 100 / 80

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  Giratina

Stats: 110/90/100/90/100/90

• Giratina-Origin

Stats: 110/100/90/100/90/90
Deo-A should get 50 base HP like its normal counterpart.

A lot of the others should probably get further nerfs to other stats. Otherwise, they still have BSTs of over 600 and access to excellent movepools. They'd simply be overcentralizing.

read the post before you I implemented nerfs into the changelog.

Anyways I feel as if the changelog is balanced as most of these have been nerfed as to why they were banned.

Anyways lets get some discussion going! I've been thinking of a couple of threats:

Arceus @ Life Orb / Silk Scarf / Lum Berry
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Shadow Claw
- Extremespeed

Arceus is simply awesome. Although it may not be the most brutal, with life orb equiped, little can stand it's wrath (bar gengar since it can outspeed/prank WoW you, take shadow claw and 2hko/ohko you with focus blast) as it OHKOs aegislash with +2 LO EQ and destroys most of the standard offensive metagame with espeed.
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Arceus Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 367-432 (113.2 - 133.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Arceus Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard X: 285-335 (79.1 - 93%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Arceus Extreme Speed vs. 120 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard X: 285-335 (87.1 - 102.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Arceus Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 417-491 (139 - 163.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Arceus Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Keldeo: 341-402 (105.5 - 124.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252+ Atk Life Orb Arceus Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 325-383 (90.7 - 106.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
if you pair this thing with a solid wallbreaker like nerfogre or nerfkanga there's very little things that can take it on effectively.

although this thing really hates fighting moves

Arceus @ Silk Scarf / Leftovers / Lum Berry
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 Atk / 16 Spe / 240 HP
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake / Recover
- Will-O-Wisp
- Extremespeed

This is a bulky version of the infamous Ekill set. WoW is the staple of this set along with SD and Ekill since it lets it cripple many of it's switchins such as ferrothorn, hippowdon and quagsire. Recover can be used over EQ if you clean all of ghosts type in the way as it can help you get through the match and set up multiple times. Anyways WoW and it's bulk can be used to cripple stuff like Aegislash. Anyways the 16 Spe is in order to outspeed standard Bisharp and Breloom (adamant variants) and burn them.

There are more to explore and I wish I could post every single thing I could find (especially arcues, omg I love OUceus it's so fucking variant and awesome and has so much sets and forms) but I can't so it's up to you guys to try them all!

 

[nightsitter]

read the post before you I implemented nerfs into the changelog.

Oh geez sorry I got distracted while writing that and didn't see the previous post. I like the changes, but all the bigass dragons still look pretty strong

 

[canno]

I think Kanga should lose Seismic Toss as well. iirc it doesn't lose any power on the second hit because its fixed damage and doesn't have any true BP. Other than that though this looks fun. Kyogre could be fun with Rest / Sleep Talk / Roar / Scald.

 

[Pikachuun]

I think Kanga should lose Seismic Toss as well. iirc it doesn't lose any power on the second hit because its fixed damage and doesn't have any true BP. Other than that though this looks fun. Kyogre could be fun with Rest / Sleep Talk / Roar / Scald.

An alt option could be to make parental bond not work with fixed damage moves in addition to the current nerf.

 

[canno]

An alt option could be to make parental bond not work with fixed damage moves in addition to the current nerf.

That could also work, although I think removing Seismic Toss is much simpler.

EDIT: Also, is Geomancy still a 2-turn move?

 

[En Passant]

Does anybody else have a problem with a being that summons storms wherever it goes being unable to cause lightning and Darkrai losing its signature move?

I think Megaskhan needs more nerfing. Parental Bond has changed from being a Choice Band without the choice to a Life Orb without the life, which is still really powerful. It also keeps everything else that made it broken, including great coverage with only a few moves and an untauntable Swords Dance.

 

[Ranger Mike]

Does anybody else have a problem with a being that summons storms wherever it goes being unable to cause lightning

Link learns thunder confirmed!

 

[warriorman222]

Im pretty sure this would be easy to code by unbanning ubers from here and changing the stats. Okay, if i wasn't lazy i could figure out how to code this. Excpt that i'll probably do something wrong and get myself banned like at Roblox for taking everyone's robux with a glitch badly mess it up.

 

[Monte Cristo]

Im pretty sure this would be easy to code by unbanning ubers from here and changing the stats. Okay, if i wasn't lazy i could figure out how to code this. Excpt that i'll probably do something wrong and get myself banned like at Roblox for taking everyone's robux with a glitch badly mess it up.

I can easily code this except I'm doing it next week cause work n stuff

 

[Ranger Mike]

Also how good do we want these ubers be in ou because we kind of need a benchmark.

 

[warriorman222]

Kyogre, Rayquaza and Groudon's stats must be proportinal. If Groudon gets 130 attack, kyogre gets 130 SPattack, rayquaza gets 130 attack and Spatk. Same thing with Yvetal and Xerneas, the (banned) Deoxys, and yeah.

 

[Monte Cristo]

Kyogre, Rayquaza and Groudon's stats must be proportinal. If Groudon gets 130 attack, kyogre gets 130 SPattack, rayquaza gets 130 attack and Spatk. Same thing with Yvetal and Xerneas, the (banned) Deoxys, and yeah.

not really as I'm not sacrificing balance for "flavor"

 

[Arhops]

Is there any chance you'll nerf/rework things like SwagPlay and Moody which got banned from OU (poor Bidoof)? Soul Dew too if we find it is broken in XY.

 

[PokemonMasterDebater]

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  Kangaskhan-Mega

Abilities: A Nerfed Parental Bond

Parental Bond- second hit is only 30% as strong​

Stats: 105/125/90/75/95/100

After accounting for the Parental Bond Boost, Mega Kangaskhan's stats are approximately 105/175/90/112/95/100.

Since it's special attack got buffed, it could possibly run an effective special lure set to demolish some of it's normal switch-ins.
252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Kangaskhan Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 320-377 (95.8 - 112.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Kangaskhan Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ferrothorn: 421-499 (119.6 - 141.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Kangaskhan Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 447-530 (124.8 - 148%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Kangaskhan Shadow Ball vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Gengar: 221-260 (84.3 - 99.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Kangaskhan Shadow Ball vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Gengar: 182-216 (69.4 - 82.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Kangaskhan Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Sableye: 169-199 (55.5 - 65.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

 

[Pikachuun]

Is there any chance you'll nerf/rework things like SwagPlay and Moody which got banned from OU (poor Bidoof)? Soul Dew too if we find it is broken in XY.

I have some ideas.
Swagger boosts Attack by 1 stage. If this is still too broken we can use the unmodified Attack and Defense stat when calculating confusion damage (along with foul play damage if that's too broken). Moody boosts 1 stat and lowers another by 1 stage.

There.

 

[asterat]

Alternatively, you could buff all OU mons to an uber level. Which is what we all want to see...


I'll make this a separate pet mod if people are interested, and you don't want to change your goal.

 

[En Passant]

Or you can go to Brokemons, which is quite similar in concept (except it doesn't unban Ubers :/)

 

[Monte Cristo]

After accounting for the Parental Bond Boost, Mega Kangaskhan's stats are approximately 105/175/90/112/95/100.

Since it's special attack got buffed, it could possibly run an effective special lure set to demolish some of it's normal switch-ins.
252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Kangaskhan Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 320-377 (95.8 - 112.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Kangaskhan Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ferrothorn: 421-499 (119.6 - 141.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Kangaskhan Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 447-530 (124.8 - 148%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Kangaskhan Shadow Ball vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Gengar: 221-260 (84.3 - 99.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Kangaskhan Shadow Ball vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Gengar: 182-216 (69.4 - 82.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Mega Kangaskhan Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Sableye: 169-199 (55.5 - 65.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

nice life orb mega