Un-Needed Aspects of Pokémon

Hyper Beam and variants, which, no matter what, are treated like they are the best moves by the NPCs in any game
Generation 1 would like to have a word with you.

Seriously though I think they are pretty cool. Certainly they don't have much competetive use but it's a strong move with a nasty side effect so people need to learn to use it carefully which is pretty cool. Also blasting your opponent with a beam of superawesomepowerness is cool.
 
Yeah, Normalize are Pixilate, Refrigirate, and Aerialate variants. Except that Normalize turns every single type to Normal-type moves, therefore screwing up coverage :'(

Another ability that seems (nearly) useless to me is Klutz. Yeah, you could simply disable walls using the Choice Scarf / Assault Vest / Toxic Orb / Flame Orb + Trick /Switcheroo strategy. But, there are other alternatives.

--> Giving an Assault Vest is a joke; you're pseudo-taunting them while giving them a free SpDef boost?!
--> Toxic / Flame Orb? Use Toxic or WoW instead!
 
Yeah, Normalize are Pixilate, Refrigirate, and Aerialate variants. Except that Normalize turns every single type to Normal-type moves, therefore screwing up coverage :'(

Another ability that seems (nearly) useless to me is Klutz. Yeah, you could simply disable walls using the Choice Scarf / Assault Vest / Toxic Orb / Flame Orb + Trick /Switcheroo strategy. But, there are other alternatives.

--> Giving an Assault Vest is a joke; you're pseudo-taunting them while giving them a free SpDef boost?!
--> Toxic / Flame Orb? Use Toxic or WoW instead!
If you use Toxic or Will-o-Wisp, the foe can keep its item (not to mention the chance of missing that both of them have), while tricking or switcherooing a toxic/flame orb gets rid of their item and cripples them. Its like a Knock Off+Trick 2-in-1. And then, if the boss had an item like a Black Sludge, you can trick that item onto another pokemon and do it again.
 
Well, the problem with them is not their coolness, and in-game they are somewhat useful, but they are counterproductive for competitive battling, tricking new players into a trap because of their high BP and because many of them don't know that a Lucario will SD on the recharging turn of your Blast Burn Charizard
 
Well, the problem with them is not their coolness, and in-game they are somewhat useful, but they are counterproductive for competitive battling, tricking new players into a trap because of their high BP and because many of them don't know that a Lucario will SD on the recharging turn of your Blast Burn Charizard
But they aren't necessarily tricking new players into a trap. All of the Hyper Beam variants specifically state in their description that after using the move the user must rest during the next turn. Sooner or later they'll figure out that two turns of attacking the opponent at the very least deals more damage than one attack and a wasted turn that could very well cost them. Surely if the player can take advantage of the AI using these moves to beat it, he or she will start thinking that any opponent capable of actual thought can do the same to him or her should they use these moves like the AI does. The AI sees numbers, little more. Why, just ask the Golem or Lickilicky or Gigalith that blow up first chance they get without having accomplished anything beforehand.
 
Well, the problem with them is not their coolness, and in-game they are somewhat useful, but they are counterproductive for competitive battling, tricking new players into a trap because of their high BP and because many of them don't know that a Lucario will SD on the recharging turn of your Blast Burn Charizard
Newcomers will make that mistake once and hopefully learn from it. It's not a big problem.
 
Overpowered event Pokémon/items. Just because you didn't get the game early enough for the event Torchic shouldn't mean that your opponent is the only one who can sweep with Mega Blaziken!
Best answer yet. This is dangerously close to a pay-to-win situation which is absolutely the worst thing that a competitive video game can do.

It's also why Nintendo bans event legendaries for their official tournaments. But they still allow event moves (eg Eruption Heatran and Dark Void Smeargle, which are huge in VGC), so it's a mixed bag there.
 
Best answer yet. This is dangerously close to a pay-to-win situation which is absolutely the worst thing that a competitive video game can do.

It's also why Nintendo bans event legendaries for their official tournaments. But they still allow event moves (eg Eruption Heatran and Dark Void Smeargle, which are huge in VGC), so it's a mixed bag there.
Eh, Dark Void Smeargle is at least reproducible and can be created with just another Dark Void Smeargle.
 

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Best answer yet. This is dangerously close to a pay-to-win situation which is absolutely the worst thing that a competitive video game can do.

It's also why Nintendo bans event legendaries for their official tournaments. But they still allow event moves (eg Eruption Heatran and Dark Void Smeargle, which are huge in VGC), so it's a mixed bag there.
It wouldn't be a problem if they actually tested them and/or made them readily available. I'm 90% sure every event mon sans Arceus isn't broken in VGC.
 

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Best answer yet. This is dangerously close to a pay-to-win situation which is absolutely the worst thing that a competitive video game can do.

It's also why Nintendo bans event legendaries for their official tournaments. But they still allow event moves (eg Eruption Heatran and Dark Void Smeargle, which are huge in VGC), so it's a mixed bag there.
I still don't really understand why they don't make events available for long periods of time =/ I understand why they keep specific Pokemon temporary, such as Pokemon connected to movies and real life events, however, I still don't understand why they didn't put Arceus up for download on Wifi and let everyone have a shot at getting him.

I also agree on Normalize+. While playing Mystery Dungeon as a Skitty, this ability was a curse. =/
 
Yes, but you'd probably have to give up an extremely good Pokémon (like a 5IV Adamant Meditite) for it. If you find someone who's willing to trade it.
Not to sound condsending, but there are plenty of people in the WiFi section willing to give people a 5/6 iv Ditto for free.

It wouldn't take you more than an hour to breed a 5 iv Meditite with said Ditto and a spitback someone could throw your way.

Not exactly hard...

Plus, cloning makes people generous! :)
 
Yes, but you'd probably have to give up an extremely good Pokémon (like a 5IV Adamant Meditite) for it. If you find someone who's willing to trade it.
With breeding so easy this gen, you can get a 5IV good-natured Pokemon pretty easy even if you start from scratch. I wouldn't say event Pokemon are bad anymore than shiny Pokemon are bad, they make them more valuable, which is cool.
 
Yes, but you'd probably have to give up an extremely good Pokémon (like a 5IV Adamant Meditite) for it. If you find someone who's willing to trade it.
Not everyone here on Smogon is as ridiculously demanding as the people over the GTS that want Arceus for what's probably a completely random starter like Tepig. If you ask for it, you might just be surprised. Maybe it'll require you to learn to master RNG abuse in previous gens for that something valuable, or you may need to breed something decent using stuff generous people will give for lending them a hand with what they want. But you'll never know if you don't ask.
 

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