I believe that I am and that there were no drops or rises this month.
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Data Usage-Based Tier Update for September 2017 (Oct @ #73) (Nov @ #129)
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so http://www.smogon.com/forums/thread...quick-changes-129.3614028/page-6#post-7572993 this post is incorrect?
We are currently continuing the ZU tier from last gen into SM. If it possible to post PU usage stats we would greatly appreciate it.
| 5 | Donphan | 14.837% |
| 9 | Salazzle | 12.930% |
| 15 | Zoroark | 10.372% |
I don't really play RU often but can someone explain to me why a C- rank mon has higher usage than two S rank mons?
| 9 | Salazzle | 12.930% |
| 15 | Zoroark | 10.372% |
I don't really play RU often but can someone explain to me why a C- rank mon has higher usage than two S rank mons?
The low thinks it's good, that's why| 5 | Donphan | 14.837% |
| 9 | Salazzle | 12.930% |
| 15 | Zoroark | 10.372% |
I don't really play RU often but can someone explain to me why a C- rank mon has higher usage than two S rank mons?
im confused where are ZU related things even discussed?
sorry to ask but...
What is even Zu ?_?
unofficial tier below PU, used to be called FU for the pun, there isn't a thread for it afaik
Hmmm interesting,Anyone has the mons list?
it's not called SU it's called ZU and here is the discord https://discordapp.com/invite/tuDAG69
RU probably has the worst ladder of any tier, which means stuff like this happens. Donphan's an even worse ladder problem than Ambipom.| 5 | Donphan | 14.837% |
| 9 | Salazzle | 12.930% |
| 15 | Zoroark | 10.372% |
I don't really play RU often but can someone explain to me why a C- rank mon has higher usage than two S rank mons?
Nope, you're right. My script doesn't compute the NU<->PU changes. It will next month.
Re: ZU -- Next month I'll post combined usage stats for PU, but I don't see ever computing rises/drops between PU and ZU, barring the existence of an official ZU ladder.
The acronym apparently is for Forgot to Use: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/the-forgot-to-use-fu-tour-round-1.3583997/
Edit: see Antar's comment below for the correct answer :/ Apologies
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To solve all of these problems I decided to mention it again.ZU(Zero Used)was actually FU but we decided to change it because of bad pun.
This is incorrect, just as it's incorrect that PU stands for "partially used," though in both cases, there have been strong pushes to backcroym these tiers to have alternate meanings.
As originally conceived, FU is what these Pokemon wish they could say to GameFreak. I should know. I'm the immature nerd who came up with it. As for PU, from Dec. 2014:
We keeping this one hostage for awhile :]]]]]
Isn't the worst lower ladder ubers or anything goes? Because the lower ladder (1000-1200 for ubers, 1000-1300 for AG) of both tiers have stuff like full OU teams or even worse. Or many pokemon which aren't even ranked on viability.
On another note, are we allowed to talk about the effect of these drops? Because Mega Steelix could be really good in RU due to its high physical defense and decent attack. It could be a good defensive rocker or backbone for stall.
Just wondering: Why not use the highest ranked stats for usage? Aren't those the ones that give the best idea of what's good or not since they are the stats of the most experienced players? And if we used those stats, we wouldn't have crap like Claydol staying NU despite being awful.
Tiers are based off USAGE, not on how good something is
Aren't they already weighted so that Pokemon used by low-ladder players are weighted less?
Yes, but the weighting is done around the mid high ladder, not the top. To answer the question, the top of the ladder is a very small sample size that is easily susceptible to temporary trends. For example if someone peaked the ladder with Mega Camerupt and other top players used it as well, it would become OU, which is obviously not a realistic portrait of the long term meta.
While your statement is true, we all must agree that certain things just don't belong in a certain place. In this case, Donphan and Blastoise are ridiculously out of place in the meta, where they are both
Don’t forget Heliolisk, Jolteon, and Golisopod. Plus debatable ones like Aerodactyl. I hate the RU ladder
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