jrp
Banned deucer.
We discussed this on IRC so I figured i'd post what we came up with. Furai wanted me to put in a SD set, but I have my doubts about its effectiveness so I'm testing one out.
[Overview]
[SET]
name: Special Growth
move 1: Growth
move 2: Grass Knot
move 3: Weather Ball
move 4: Sludge Bomb / Hidden Power Ice / Sleep Powder
item: Life Orb
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
[Other Options]
[Checks and Counters]
[Overview]
- Frail
- slower than venusaur
- has weather ball which hits a lot harder than hidden power fire, giving it a niche over venusaur
- outspeeds most of the tier in sun
- destroyed by pretty much any priority
[SET]
name: Special Growth
move 1: Growth
move 2: Grass Knot
move 3: Weather Ball
move 4: Sludge Bomb / Hidden Power Ice / Sleep Powder
item: Life Orb
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Timid
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
- Grass Knot hits a good portion of the tier for full damage
- Weather Ball is extremely potent, able to OHKO most Dialga at +2 after hazards as well as blasting Ferrothorn and Steelceus
- Sludge Bomb hits most of the tier neutrally, making it a good cleaning move while Sleep Powder eases the prediction required to set up successfuly
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- hazards are appreciated to guarentee certain kos at +2 (defensive dialga, Palkia, amongst others
- modest can be used for additional power, but you lose to scarf pokemon such as genesect and palkia if you do this
- Giga Drain increases longevity, but victreebel isn't taking any hits as it is so it can at least mitigate LO recoil
- Solarbeam can be used to consistenly hit with 120 base power, but it gets neutered out of sun
[Other Options]
- can run a mixed growth set, allowing it to beat latios/latias easier, but is outclassed by shiftry in this
- a swords dance set with Power Whip and Sucker Punch can be used as well
[Checks and Counters]
- Practically anything with priority can easily smash victreebel
- opposing kyogre can mess up Victreebel, although they need to watch out for Grass Knot if not running Scarf (or speed investment)
- chansey just sits there in front of victreebel, although it doesn't appreciate being poisoned by Sludge Bomb (although it can just switch out)