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Pokémon Vivillon
- Thread starter Pata Hikari
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Is Vivillon even viable in OU? A lot of other threads got closed for that very reason, yet this one remains... If I wanted to use Quiver Dance + Sleep Powder, I'd rather use Venomoth; its typing isn't as terrible and has Tinted Lens to lessen the need for coverage!
edit: seems Venomoth was already highlighted, well now. lol
edit: seems Venomoth was already highlighted, well now. lol
Compound eyes + sleep powder makes it almost as accurate as spore, and after 1 quiver dance, hurricane will leave
Vivillon is awesome. I was playing Randoms and was having a LOT of trouble midgame with a Gourgeist (which is pretty pathetic now that I think about it) so I switched to Vivillon. I've never used Vivillon before, but it swept all 6 Pokemon on my opponent's team. THIS is what I call power.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/unratedrandombattle-95632713
Here's the replay for anyone who's interested.
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/unratedrandombattle-95632713
Here's the replay for anyone who's interested.
So, I've been running vivi as a lead on my mono flying and bug teams, and I gotta say, WOW! For starters: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-100450975
In this replay, vivillon as a lead destroys two pokemon on my opponents team (one through a pseudo-paraswag, sorry) and cripples two more of his pokemon, leaving him with only 2 useful pokes.
I run this set, but I have yet to try out any other, because I am most often reduced to my sash and he acts as my lead:
Vivillon @ Focus Sash
Ability: Compound Eyes
EVs: 252 Spd / 4 HP / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 SAtk / 30 Spd
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Hurricane
- Sleep Powder
- Stun Spore
I don't like HP fire though. I ran it because of the common ferro/forre leads, but it's only a 3hko on ferro. I might just put bug buzz back to make IVs easier if I decide to make this in my pokemon Y.
More replays starring vivi:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-100375072 I should have hurricaned the talonflame
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-100445523 I should have put the smeargle to sleep, but then I might not have paralyzed the gliscor. People don't protect their gliscor first turn when they see vivi come out first lol
In this replay, vivillon as a lead destroys two pokemon on my opponents team (one through a pseudo-paraswag, sorry) and cripples two more of his pokemon, leaving him with only 2 useful pokes.
I run this set, but I have yet to try out any other, because I am most often reduced to my sash and he acts as my lead:
Vivillon @ Focus Sash
Ability: Compound Eyes
EVs: 252 Spd / 4 HP / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature
IVs: 2 Atk / 30 SAtk / 30 Spd
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Hurricane
- Sleep Powder
- Stun Spore
I don't like HP fire though. I ran it because of the common ferro/forre leads, but it's only a 3hko on ferro. I might just put bug buzz back to make IVs easier if I decide to make this in my pokemon Y.
More replays starring vivi:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-100375072 I should have hurricaned the talonflame
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-100445523 I should have put the smeargle to sleep, but then I might not have paralyzed the gliscor. People don't protect their gliscor first turn when they see vivi come out first lol
252 SpA Vivillon Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ferrothorn: 180-216 (51.1 - 61.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Vivillon Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Forretress: 312-368 (88.1 - 103.9%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
what?
I've probably been facing +Def, 252 Hp/48 Def/208 SpD, as I have run before:
252 SpA (custom) Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 208 SpD Ferrothorn: 152-180 (43.18 - 51.13%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
BenTheDemon
Banned deucer.
I really want to see someone make a viable Powder set. Unfortunately, it's gimmicky. :(
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