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Were you raptured
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Oh man, I actually completely forgot he said "No wait, I meant OCTOBER 21st."
Apparently so did everyone else, because I didn't see any retarded statuses about "so the world is supposed to end tonight????"
Apparently so did everyone else, because I didn't see any retarded statuses about "so the world is supposed to end tonight????"
You don't have to be a smooth scammer to scam people. You just have to make something up that's slightly believable and a bunch of retarded people will fork it over.
That's because they already did the first time, and have been living on dumpster-diving and unemployment ever since.
wtf are you talking about
nobody knows what the first bible said
Jesus murdered children. But you probably shouldn't do that if you feel like going to heaven.
Darkamber: Technically the Bible wasn't unofficially compiled until the 4th century AD from many different writings. The total books weren't officially set into stone by any church until after the Protestant Revolution-and that in response to the fact the Protestants omitted several books the Catholic Church took as valid.
This is my overall opinion of Rapture predictions. Taking Revelation (which is part of a larger class of apocalyptic writing that was half-aimed at covertly sticking it to the Romans/giving the early church a pep talk) literally is a fairly stupid idea in and of itself.
With this in mind.
This is my overall opinion of Rapture predictions. Taking Revelation (which is part of a larger class of apocalyptic writing that was half-aimed at covertly sticking it to the Romans/giving the early church a pep talk) literally is a fairly stupid idea in and of itself.
With this in mind.
Respectfully, it doesn't say that anywhere.
We are more certain about what the original copies of any of the books of the Bible said than we are about almost any other ancient historical accounts.
The only people that accept those extrabiblical gospels are the most liberal scholars.
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them, and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive. (Titus 2:9)
Welcome to America in the 1800's!
(lol those quotes were actually fairly easy to find)
There are several more biting concepts in the Bible that are harder for Christians to refute-most notably possible endorsement by the early Church of a communal lifestyle.
...Hmm, even religious threads get derailed by religious arguments...
Fool them once, shame on him.
Fool them twice, shame on them.
Fool them thrice... if they did get raptured, we'd be glad to have them out of the gene pool.
Also, @above posts, things that applied to Hebrew society =/= things that are acceptable now. Besides, slavery then was a lot different from slavery now.
Fool them twice, shame on them.
Fool them thrice... if they did get raptured, we'd be glad to have them out of the gene pool.
Also, @above posts, things that applied to Hebrew society =/= things that are acceptable now. Besides, slavery then was a lot different from slavery now.
I'm still here... I guess I slept through the sound of the trumpet and the angelic choir singing behind Jesus and he descended unto the earth to save his saints... but w/e.
um, iDunno? In the second post you had a verse saying that "The Devil can quote Scripture to his purpose." But in this post that is quoted above me you are arguing saying you have to follow the bible completely so you should support slavery. What I am seeing is that you are trying to use the Bible to your own purpose of arguing.
See what I did there?
I love these threads.
There isn't much in this thread to derail, but still, the subject of slavery in the bible is more nuanced than iDunno's quote mining suggests, so here's a nice link delving into both the good and the ugly of the subject, also demonstrating why the slavery in antiquity and slavery in the new world aren't really comparable.
But if we're going to talk about the Rapture and how silly it is...
Teachings of the Rapture were absolutely absent in the church until around the early 1800's, popularized by Darby, Scofield and others. Nowhere was any such thing taught in the church anytime before that, and, more importantly, the bible simply doesn't support it. I do believe there are sincere Christians who adhere to that doctrine out of tradition, but the few verses used to support the Rapture are often quoted outside of context.
Furthermore, Camping sits outside of orthodox Christian teaching, himself. Along with iDunno and the Pharisees, he believes getting to heaven is some kind of quid pro quo deal rather than a free gift to be accepted or refused.
The only reason this got such wide media coverage in the first place is because it's fun to bash Christianity. My co-workers had a ball yesterday...
As far as I know, the institution of slavery in America occurred by actually taking people from their homelands by force. Something condemned in Exodus: “Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death” (Exodus 21:16)
There isn't much in this thread to derail, but still, the subject of slavery in the bible is more nuanced than iDunno's quote mining suggests, so here's a nice link delving into both the good and the ugly of the subject, also demonstrating why the slavery in antiquity and slavery in the new world aren't really comparable.
But if we're going to talk about the Rapture and how silly it is...
Teachings of the Rapture were absolutely absent in the church until around the early 1800's, popularized by Darby, Scofield and others. Nowhere was any such thing taught in the church anytime before that, and, more importantly, the bible simply doesn't support it. I do believe there are sincere Christians who adhere to that doctrine out of tradition, but the few verses used to support the Rapture are often quoted outside of context.
Furthermore, Camping sits outside of orthodox Christian teaching, himself. Along with iDunno and the Pharisees, he believes getting to heaven is some kind of quid pro quo deal rather than a free gift to be accepted or refused.
The only reason this got such wide media coverage in the first place is because it's fun to bash Christianity. My co-workers had a ball yesterday...
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