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Serious What to do about Bullying?
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This rings so true in my heart, as it's something I've also felt for a long time. Having seen so many women around me bordering on obsession with looking/being like these celebrities and models we see on TV, it pains me greatly that so many people don't want to be themselves. I've often uttered the phrase "if I could de-invent makeup, I would", just as a manifestation of my feelings toward society's focus on outer appearances. I've seen so many people (guys and girls), hopelessly defeated because they just can't seem to reach that goal of aesthetic they saw in a magazine one time. We're brainwashed into thinking that you have to have perfect bone structure and a perfect body to be worth anything, and the effect is so widespread it seems almost to be a futile dream.
I guess I don't really have a new point to make with this post, just wanting to agree with Gogeta that if we could somehow alter society's priorities from external to internal, we could effectively combat insecurity as a whole and by extension remove the "fuel" that sustains bullying. This is, of course, an extremely daunting task that it will take a whole lot of people to accomplish. But I guess anything is possible...
The good ol' advice of just "toughen up" could be of some use to society today.
I don't like the recent stupid bully campagins, I just find them ineffective and for show. Then every so often they bring a bully to light and basically have him lynched online by the "Internet justice mobs".
I have been somewhat bullied in the past but I was always able to deal with. But I think people should sometimes remember bullying is not balck and white, often times the victim is as much to blame.
I don't like the recent stupid bully campagins, I just find them ineffective and for show. Then every so often they bring a bully to light and basically have him lynched online by the "Internet justice mobs".
I have been somewhat bullied in the past but I was always able to deal with. But I think people should sometimes remember bullying is not balck and white, often times the victim is as much to blame.
Here comes the victim blamer and I'm calling crap on that because for every one case where the victim is 'to blame' there are ten more where they are not to blame. Back before I moved east I remember this one kid who relentlessly harassed me since the first day I moved to the school for no reason. I know now that his home situation was shit and he was relatively poor and a dumbass but he and his friends made a personal vendetta against me. Heck when I went three years ago to reconnect with old friends on facebook one of his thug pals decided to taunt me over private messaging. I didn't even remember this random guy compared to his friend until he saw fit to harass someone he hasn't seen in over six years.
'Deal with it' is such a nice catch all too because that can be taken too generally. When younger I bottled a lot of hurt for a few years and ended up getting very angry over some inconsequential things.
Another general thing is that while many of us may have never made our life mission to harass one person as kids we naturally just gang up as a general herd on a few at times.
I have also been lucky enough to repair relationships with two people who I held very mean spirited rivalries with for years (both in different provinces) by asking them honestly if we could both remember what started all this initial animosity and if it was worth keeping up. I'm by no means best of friends now with them but we can talk and be cool on a bus without hurt feelings.
'Deal with it' is such a nice catch all too because that can be taken too generally. When younger I bottled a lot of hurt for a few years and ended up getting very angry over some inconsequential things.
Another general thing is that while many of us may have never made our life mission to harass one person as kids we naturally just gang up as a general herd on a few at times.
I have also been lucky enough to repair relationships with two people who I held very mean spirited rivalries with for years (both in different provinces) by asking them honestly if we could both remember what started all this initial animosity and if it was worth keeping up. I'm by no means best of friends now with them but we can talk and be cool on a bus without hurt feelings.
It's different for every person, which is anther reason why bullying is such a problem; people use a case they experienced to generalize it for other people who claim they're experiencing it, and they expect every bullying case to be the same. In some cases it is partially the victim's fault, where in other cases i.e. yours, it's mainly the bully's fault. Those who claim to be stopping the bullying need to realize that not every case is the same, so they can't use the same methods every time something bad happens.
i think cookie hit the nail on the head with prioritising parenting as a solution. it stands to reason that if a kid is raised well then they shouldn't bully unless they have some inherent problems (and i suspect the latter case occurs far less, or at least to a much smaller degree in cases in between). as much as the idea of necessary discipline seems oppressive, kids really do have too much god damn freedom nowadays. too much money, too much reign over their own lives, too much unnecessary shit given to them. parents may equate a laissez-faire approach to bringing up their kids as simply allowing kids to grow up by themselves, but providing financial support isn't 'raising your children', it's only 'providing' for them. you could argue that parents can't be blamed for providing, but parenting is as much providing as it is emotional nurturing.
bullying as a macro problem only has a micro solution, the school system can only do so much with the limited and superficial authority they have.
bullying as a macro problem only has a micro solution, the school system can only do so much with the limited and superficial authority they have.
On the note of seating charts, I somewhat agree and disagree with KD. While free range seating may be good for children, so that they aren't forced into situations with other kids, it has its pitfalls. For example you note that with open seating they could sit with their friends, well this is an obvious problem if the student has no friends, having them separate themselves from the class further isolates them and doesn't solve the real problem. There is also the fact that seating charts do exist for a reason, mainly to break up the trouble makers of the class who can't be trusted to sit next to each other. I feel there there should be more of smart seating in schools, not a dichotomy of free range or random order.
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I had more problems with bullying as a child than when I was older honestly. When you are older and someone is fucking with you, especially in high school, it is pretty much an instant go to detention for the rest of the day end of story. My high school even had a sheriff with a tazer and gun to escort you to detention. As a young child though, the exact opposite thing happened, you could be legitimately physically abused or verbally abused, all day, and nothing would be ever done about it. In particular I remember my third grade teacher calling me a "taddle tale" when I told her about the children abusing me, then she told me something along the lines of "just deal with it." This kind of abuse escalated to the point where I was tied up with jump ropes to the jungle gym, and kicked in the stomach multiple times. After that happened and they were punished, people weren't nearly as horrible to me, but I was still and outcast that got made fun of and occasionally abused, with no consequence to them. This kind of shit only stopped in 7th grade, which again is the school with he sheriff and tazer I mentioned, one complaint from me and I wouldn't see them for a week, people didn't fuck with me anymore, it simply was not worth it.
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I had more problems with bullying as a child than when I was older honestly. When you are older and someone is fucking with you, especially in high school, it is pretty much an instant go to detention for the rest of the day end of story. My high school even had a sheriff with a tazer and gun to escort you to detention. As a young child though, the exact opposite thing happened, you could be legitimately physically abused or verbally abused, all day, and nothing would be ever done about it. In particular I remember my third grade teacher calling me a "taddle tale" when I told her about the children abusing me, then she told me something along the lines of "just deal with it." This kind of abuse escalated to the point where I was tied up with jump ropes to the jungle gym, and kicked in the stomach multiple times. After that happened and they were punished, people weren't nearly as horrible to me, but I was still and outcast that got made fun of and occasionally abused, with no consequence to them. This kind of shit only stopped in 7th grade, which again is the school with he sheriff and tazer I mentioned, one complaint from me and I wouldn't see them for a week, people didn't fuck with me anymore, it simply was not worth it.
A major issue with bullying when you're older is how passive aggressive bullying can become, even if it doesn't seem much like bullying. It can be as little as not inviting you to a party, to spreading nasty rumors or influencing other's attitudes about you. And the worst part is, the schools can't do jack shit that the entire school thinks wrongly of you.
I've struggled with bullying myself, actually. I remember my friends would occasionally call me a retard playfully because I tend to have a nervous stutter (combined with mumbling, it doesn't help at all). It was playful, though, because I knew my friends and they had actually backed me up from time to time.
The issue was, a group of kids overheard us joking around, and began spreading rumors that I actually was retarded. I had people walking up to me asking me flat out if I was, and girls giving me weird looks.
It became a serious problem, but my friends stopped joking about it. The rumors fizzled out pver the summer, thankfully, and it seemed like everyone forgot. It still sucked, though, knowing we had no idea who started it or even how to end it.
I've struggled with bullying myself, actually. I remember my friends would occasionally call me a retard playfully because I tend to have a nervous stutter (combined with mumbling, it doesn't help at all). It was playful, though, because I knew my friends and they had actually backed me up from time to time.
The issue was, a group of kids overheard us joking around, and began spreading rumors that I actually was retarded. I had people walking up to me asking me flat out if I was, and girls giving me weird looks.
It became a serious problem, but my friends stopped joking about it. The rumors fizzled out pver the summer, thankfully, and it seemed like everyone forgot. It still sucked, though, knowing we had no idea who started it or even how to end it.
on a serious note. The youth of the generation need to realize they can talk about it. I think teachers should be taught how to read the signs of children better, if a child is in fact getting bullied in the class room the teacher should be able to spot it and talk with the child about it. Teachers do spend a lot of time with the child, though not 1 on 1, they should still be able to spot the signs easily. Finally, not everyone can stand up to their bully like big boy ginger did in the video, but everyone can talk, words are often more powerful then anything that could ever be done.
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My experience is that you can rarely do anything to do bullies once the bullying has started, especially if they bully you in gangs.
Some parents either don't believe their child has done that, or just wanted to stand on their child's side.
Psychologists/ social workers often only tell the victim that the bullies are wrong, but this isn't comforting at all.
The more you believe they are wrong, the more you want to demand justice.
The whole "You can't change them, you can only change yourself"-thing just makes you wonder why the bad people have to dominate over the good people.
My attitude completely changed after I learnt of how Japanese students deal with bullies.
They just tell themselves to be strong, and to learn how to endure.
Bullies make you stronger (character-wise, I don't mean physical.)
Once I was able to view the problem as partially beneficial, I just suddenly feel much better and my confidence started to build up again.
After that, I could get a clearer view on what my character flaws were, though they may or may not be the reason of why they bullied me. But still, it's good to learn.
Some parents either don't believe their child has done that, or just wanted to stand on their child's side.
Psychologists/ social workers often only tell the victim that the bullies are wrong, but this isn't comforting at all.
The more you believe they are wrong, the more you want to demand justice.
The whole "You can't change them, you can only change yourself"-thing just makes you wonder why the bad people have to dominate over the good people.
My attitude completely changed after I learnt of how Japanese students deal with bullies.
They just tell themselves to be strong, and to learn how to endure.
Bullies make you stronger (character-wise, I don't mean physical.)
Once I was able to view the problem as partially beneficial, I just suddenly feel much better and my confidence started to build up again.
After that, I could get a clearer view on what my character flaws were, though they may or may not be the reason of why they bullied me. But still, it's good to learn.
The Japanese suicide rate isn't particularly high among young people from memory, and it's not helped by a cultural failure to acknowledge that depression is actually a thing..
6A9 Ace Matador
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the most effective way to deter bullies is to hurt them back, or just bully them back. it's probably not the best way, but it's certainly the most effective. and who cares if you get into trouble, it's defensible as fuck, you can make up lies to shield yourself or claim they hit you first (if there's noone around)
also a lot of people seem to confuse banter with bullying, if someone makes a probably mildly offensive joke to you, you shouldn't flip out about how upset you are since that only encourages people to do it more... take it as a joke and make one back or something
edit: the above video is way better with guilles theme:
also a lot of people seem to confuse banter with bullying, if someone makes a probably mildly offensive joke to you, you shouldn't flip out about how upset you are since that only encourages people to do it more... take it as a joke and make one back or something
edit: the above video is way better with guilles theme:
As someone who experienced bullying pretty badly in high school, the whole system is a fucking joke. Nobody respects the authority of the teachers, with the best thing that happens usually being that kids back off for a week or two while the teachers are zeroed in on the situation, and then get back to their old ways. This problem is even worse outside of school, whether it be cyber bullying or just in social situations. The only way to really change it is by implementing much more severe consequences for those who are culprits, I'm talking the threat of expulsion or even criminal charges in severe cases. Until kids are held accountable for their actions, this bullshit cycle is only going to continue. My biggest regret in high school is not punching those dickheads in the face because i was too scared. The few people I stood up to in a physical way never bothered me again. I know violence is not the preferred answer, but as I said these kids need consequences and sometimes it is the only way to get a message across when the adults are no help. I haven't been bullied at all since high school, and the few times I've been harassed in the four years since, I've had the courage to stand up for myself and as a result never had to worry about the person again.
Tl;dr
- bullies are fuckwits
- the only way to break the cycle is by treating their actions with serious consequences or criminal charges
- because of how poorly schools deal with this omnipresent problem, I've found that although not an ideal solution, that standing up for yourself physically is one of the only effective ways to counteract bullying.
Tl;dr
- bullies are fuckwits
- the only way to break the cycle is by treating their actions with serious consequences or criminal charges
- because of how poorly schools deal with this omnipresent problem, I've found that although not an ideal solution, that standing up for yourself physically is one of the only effective ways to counteract bullying.
Yea, lets not start imposing criminal charges for kids in elementary school. Serious consequences is also a bullshit option. If kids don't accept the authority of teachers then we need to give them a reason to accept their authority. Others have mentioned this before, but we need to take steps to make teaching a respectable position. Higher wages, firing poor teachers, higher entry standards would be a start.
Standing up for yourself may work under some conditions, involving authorities may work in others, but it would be naive to assume either would work in most situations. Some kids are bullied because they are physically weaker, teaching them to confront their bullies is asinine. I don't know why I have to clarify this, but imprisoning students is possibly the stupidest thing I've read in any of the recent threads, congrats Stallion.
Standing up for yourself may work under some conditions, involving authorities may work in others, but it would be naive to assume either would work in most situations. Some kids are bullied because they are physically weaker, teaching them to confront their bullies is asinine. I don't know why I have to clarify this, but imprisoning students is possibly the stupidest thing I've read in any of the recent threads, congrats Stallion.
6A9 Ace Matador
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i think it is more ridiculous to allow children to get away with what are in some cases heinous crimes soley under the pretense that "they're just kids". someone i know was sexually assaulted at school and the kids got away with a telling off (not even an expulsion iirc). that's pretty fucking ridiculous, and shows the system to be far worse than most people imagine... but hey criminal charges are more stupid than severe injustices going unpunished (or being unpunishable)!
also fyi criminal charges do not necessarily lead to imprisonment, though they typically involve temporary loss of liberty, so something like community service could be an option
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I think people are seriously overexaggerating how much students "don't care" about teachers. Also, physical bullying and emotional bullying need to be separated here for very obvious reasons (I'm not particularly interested in discussing physical bullying because the vast majority of bullying nowadays is emotional, and I don't think many people would argue with swift punishment for physical bullying anyway so).
Sure, a small exception always exists, but the majority of students do tend to respect teachers so long as the teachers aren't patronizing and actually seem to care about them.
Part of getting my masters was teaching in one of Cleveland's poverty stricken high schools for 1 month, and yes, I saw plenty of emotional bullying.
I have a very high tolerance for allowing behaviors to go unchecked because I really think the best way is for people to learn to stand up for themselves, but I'm assuming this topic is more interested in how to deal with bullying that the victim can't handle, for whatever reason.
The most effective method I saw of dealing with this bullying? Honestly, it was having a non lecturing, loose talk to a stronger peer about the situation. People here are making it seem like the majority of students don't give a shit about teachers but I can't emphasize how much I disagree with this thought.
Sure, when kids see bullying, they tend to not get involved out of fears of social alienation / indifference, but when you (I) talk to them, they almost always rise to the occasion.
Kids are kids guys...the majority of the time they're scared to get involved to help someone. If teachers simply talk to them to emphasize support and mention concern about a particular situation, I can say from my anecdotal experience that they almost always rise to the occasion. Sure, they might not include the victim in their friends group, but they'll start talking about the bully with their own friends, and the next time the bully starts, they'll give him a piece of their mind.
So how to deal with bullying? Make it a cultural thing, whether on the micro classroom level or the macro academic system level, to talk to kids individually, talk to kids as groups, and talk to peers of bullies / victims and constantly emphasize that bullying is silly and always pointless.
Also, I don't know about other countries, but it's really hard to say anything to the parents so lol :X
Sure, a small exception always exists, but the majority of students do tend to respect teachers so long as the teachers aren't patronizing and actually seem to care about them.
Part of getting my masters was teaching in one of Cleveland's poverty stricken high schools for 1 month, and yes, I saw plenty of emotional bullying.
I have a very high tolerance for allowing behaviors to go unchecked because I really think the best way is for people to learn to stand up for themselves, but I'm assuming this topic is more interested in how to deal with bullying that the victim can't handle, for whatever reason.
The most effective method I saw of dealing with this bullying? Honestly, it was having a non lecturing, loose talk to a stronger peer about the situation. People here are making it seem like the majority of students don't give a shit about teachers but I can't emphasize how much I disagree with this thought.
Sure, when kids see bullying, they tend to not get involved out of fears of social alienation / indifference, but when you (I) talk to them, they almost always rise to the occasion.
Kids are kids guys...the majority of the time they're scared to get involved to help someone. If teachers simply talk to them to emphasize support and mention concern about a particular situation, I can say from my anecdotal experience that they almost always rise to the occasion. Sure, they might not include the victim in their friends group, but they'll start talking about the bully with their own friends, and the next time the bully starts, they'll give him a piece of their mind.
So how to deal with bullying? Make it a cultural thing, whether on the micro classroom level or the macro academic system level, to talk to kids individually, talk to kids as groups, and talk to peers of bullies / victims and constantly emphasize that bullying is silly and always pointless.
Also, I don't know about other countries, but it's really hard to say anything to the parents so lol :X
6A9 Ace Matador
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shut up aldaron or ill flush your head down the toilet again
Some responses to your misguided and dismissive post
- Where did I mention elementary school? I agree with you for the most part there, but high school students are old enough to know what they are fucking doing.
- ace matador hit the nail on the head, criminal charges do not necessarily lead to imprisonment. And some of the people I know who've been emotionally abused have ended up with permanent psychological damage. For every kid out there who gets through it and is stronger for the experience like me, there is another who has to deal with the issues caused by a bullies heinous actions for years after school.
- are you honestly naive enough to believe that students will not participate in such behaviors if the teachers are more respectable? One of my schools was a private school, where half my teachers were doctors. Yet, fucking surprise, the level of bullying there was pretty widespread and high. Just because the majority of the students respect their teachers doesnt mean that those who are engaging in destructive behaviour do.
- I never said that responding physically was a catch all solution. I was merely offering anecdotal evidence to suggest a solution that while unsatisfactory, has been somewhat successful for me in my past.
Your whole post reeks of someone who's never dealt with bullying personally tbh. I apologise if I am misguided, but everything you wrote consists of hypothetical paper solutions or ways of thinking that work amazingly in "ideal-land" but have very little real life application and practicality.
I was a bully in high school, and most other bullies I knew did not harass other kids from low self-esteem, but for the sensation of power they felt. These kids were usually pretty successful in school and in their social lives, and the bullying reflected that. You could tell the low self esteem bullies by their lower intelligence and self-destructive desire to get in trouble
As for myself, I enjoyed bullying out of a (maybe) misplaced sense of rebellion, as well as a little kick out of seeing someone else suffer. When kids tried to report me to the office, I would have a group of friends of mine that were on the football team brutalize them for me to teach them a lesson. If the kids stood up to me, I would humiliate them publically. If my victims tried to retaliate physically, it was easy for me to beat them up because I was 6 feet tall from the time I was 13. Ignoring me often lead to escalation on my part until they left school permanently. Teachers often dismissed my misbehavior because I was an avid and active class participant, in some cases the only one. They didn't see a mean, immature asshole, they saw the only kid in class who seemed to care about learning. I was also class president, so if I chose to make my bullying covert, I intrinsically had more credibility than my victim. "How could I do THAT? I'm the class president for god's sake, I have a reputation to uphold" etc. Adults were easy to manipulate as a teenager because they usually assumed to best of me. It was the glasses, I think.
My parents did not condone my activities, and on the rare occasion the school called home they were inclined to believe the administration over me. All that said to adolescent me was, "be meaner so whoever ratted me out learns their lesson, and don't get caught." After a while, kids learn who the office will fuck and who gets off scot free.
I guess the point of my post is, bullies aren't always easy to stop and often are bullies purely out of happenstance. If I had been smaller or had less friends or less influence over my teachers I probably would not have been a bully. Escalation is usually enough to scare another high school kid out of telling on a bully, and in my experience I have never seen a victim defeat his bully in a physical or social confrontation. I don't think adding "serious consequences" would help, because I was threatened with jail time/expulsion when I was 15 by the school administration for bullying a seniors my freshman year and all that happened was he got beaten up a lot more often by a lot more people. Nobody got in trouble because everyone only beat him up once, and I was never mentioned in the same breath as him by the faculty again.
My belief is that bullying will happen no matter what. It is a natural part of the human condition that always has been and always will be.
As for myself, I enjoyed bullying out of a (maybe) misplaced sense of rebellion, as well as a little kick out of seeing someone else suffer. When kids tried to report me to the office, I would have a group of friends of mine that were on the football team brutalize them for me to teach them a lesson. If the kids stood up to me, I would humiliate them publically. If my victims tried to retaliate physically, it was easy for me to beat them up because I was 6 feet tall from the time I was 13. Ignoring me often lead to escalation on my part until they left school permanently. Teachers often dismissed my misbehavior because I was an avid and active class participant, in some cases the only one. They didn't see a mean, immature asshole, they saw the only kid in class who seemed to care about learning. I was also class president, so if I chose to make my bullying covert, I intrinsically had more credibility than my victim. "How could I do THAT? I'm the class president for god's sake, I have a reputation to uphold" etc. Adults were easy to manipulate as a teenager because they usually assumed to best of me. It was the glasses, I think.
My parents did not condone my activities, and on the rare occasion the school called home they were inclined to believe the administration over me. All that said to adolescent me was, "be meaner so whoever ratted me out learns their lesson, and don't get caught." After a while, kids learn who the office will fuck and who gets off scot free.
I guess the point of my post is, bullies aren't always easy to stop and often are bullies purely out of happenstance. If I had been smaller or had less friends or less influence over my teachers I probably would not have been a bully. Escalation is usually enough to scare another high school kid out of telling on a bully, and in my experience I have never seen a victim defeat his bully in a physical or social confrontation. I don't think adding "serious consequences" would help, because I was threatened with jail time/expulsion when I was 15 by the school administration for bullying a seniors my freshman year and all that happened was he got beaten up a lot more often by a lot more people. Nobody got in trouble because everyone only beat him up once, and I was never mentioned in the same breath as him by the faculty again.
My belief is that bullying will happen no matter what. It is a natural part of the human condition that always has been and always will be.
itt vader reveals himself to be a really shitty person >_>
I don't really have much to add but I'll post about my own experiences with bullying because why not. All throughout primary > end of high school I was bullied. There was this one girl who threatened to fight me because she hated me for no reason whatsoever, and I don't know what happened there, or how I got out of it really. A few years later she hit me and stuff @ high school. During primary school I was isolated and sat in the corner playing my GameBoy at the "class party". I got called nicknames (many of which I remember to this day), I got made fun of, like I had a crush on this guy and they just... they thought I was dumb enough not to get it but I did. The bullies got the higher grades on things and got to go to these special classes for smarter ppl (although I was actually smart but not up to the "standards" - funny thing is out of them I'm the only one who went to uni!), which made me feel like crap too. I was also the only one at that point who didn't say fuck and they made me feel alienated because I felt wrong about saying that. I spent like all my lunch times volunteering to look after the younger kids because the ones my age were assholes to me. These two girls I thought we were friends with, when they discovered that my grandparents weren't really my parents (which shocked me too) they were like "oh I'm sorry for bullying you!" but I didn't even know - it was behind my back. Like, if that was behind my back, I only knew half of what was going on. That's just primary school, and there's a load more instances than that. idk they treated me like a freak, and to me that's why I was more into "power". I wanted to succeed (so I was picked as siren ringer!) and do better than them and show them that I was better. Anyways, into high school. Some of them went to the same HS as me. Soon the same cycle repeated (with two other new people who made fun of me). Luckily in HS I had friends and while my friends didn't really know I was bullied (or would do anything about it) it helped that I had people to talk to. Same thing happened when I first started using the Internet which was like "oh joy". Since then I've had issues with people, I feel like everyone is secretly out to get me and even with the closest of friends I feel this way. This is all what bullying has done to me. However it has given me the drive to be the greatest I can be, and to be better than anyone else.
...anyway, to get to the point, I don't think there is much that can be done. Most of us are ashamed and feel like we're at fault so we keep it from parents and teachers. We don't want to be further alienated, or anything. So... we just suffer in silence. But that's the thing, if teachers made it like a bigger point (idk if they do these days because they certainly didn't when I was younger) to not be afraid to tell others about being bullied that'd be amazing. I don't think there's much other students can do, though, since they'll only make it worse for themselves tbh. Although being supportive of their friends is a good thing.
...anyway, to get to the point, I don't think there is much that can be done. Most of us are ashamed and feel like we're at fault so we keep it from parents and teachers. We don't want to be further alienated, or anything. So... we just suffer in silence. But that's the thing, if teachers made it like a bigger point (idk if they do these days because they certainly didn't when I was younger) to not be afraid to tell others about being bullied that'd be amazing. I don't think there's much other students can do, though, since they'll only make it worse for themselves tbh. Although being supportive of their friends is a good thing.