What's Their Last? - ON BREAK

talkingtree

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Approved by kamikaze | Original by Halcyon. and Subject18 | OP adapted from LC's version | "Art" by yours truly


Back in the old days of 2009, the titular question was quite commonplace, as the now-standard Team Preview did not yet exist. This project aims to bring back some of those deductive teambuilding exercises updated to the modern generation. Hopefully, the process of trying to figure out the right way to finish a team will aid the community in general building and playing skills, and teach you to use team preview effectively.

Each week, I will post a team that is entirely completed; moves, EVs, items, and all; except for one Pokemon which will be left out. Using your knowledge of the metagame, posters may then suggest full sets that they think would best complete the team. It's essential that you suggest an entire set, as it can be fairly clear that the last Pokemon may be Landorus-T any given popular threat, but as that final Pokemon needs to patch up any remaining holes, the devil is in the details to find the best way to round out the team. In that submission, the poster should explain their thought process to convince people to give them their vote. This phase of the week will also serve as the discussion phase, allowing anyone who feels something may have been left out of a nomination to add their input, and also for people to state some pros and cons they have seen in nominations preceding their post. This should hopefully allow for a more informed next step:

After a few days have passed to allow full discussion of the submissions, the voting round will begin and anyone may vote for whichever person they believe best completed the posted team. The person whose submission wins the popular vote will be the winner of the week, and be added to the Hall of Fame. Once the decision has been made, the builder of the original team will be given a chance to reveal the true final Pokemon and their reasoning behind that decision.

RULES:
1. Standard forum rules apply, so no flaming, antagonizing, or judging other people's submissions outside of constructive criticisms.
2. No move or item slashes in your set submissions - you can't have more than one item or more than 4 moves in battle, so you can't have them here either.
3. Only one nomination per person, per round. If you believe there are multiple good "lasts", then just pick whichever you think is best.
4. No changing the other members of the team, including sets. The last will have been picked based on the given sets, so your suggestion should do the same. If you have a couple small things that you think could help, you may mention them, just don't tear apart the provided team.
5. Voting for your own nomination is NOT allowed.
6. Please PM me if you have a team that you would like to be featured in this project! The winner of the week before will always have precedence in providing the next team, but they may elect to not do so.
7. No stealing of ideas. For example, if someone else has already posted a bulky Thundurus set and you think that a different spread on that same Thundurus would fit better, tough. However, if the sets are different enough that they clearly serve different roles, multiple nominations may be made for the same Pokemon. Use your judgment on this one, I will not hesitate to make you change your nom if it is too similar to a preceding one.
8. Reservation posts are allowed, but after 1 hour they will expire.
9. Failure to abide by any of the above rules may get you barred from future contributions
 
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talkingtree

Using headphones to drown out my mind
is a member of the Site Staffis a Community Leaderis a Community Contributoris a Tiering Contributoris a Top Contributoris a Smogon Media Contributoris a defending Smogon Snake Draft Champion
Doubles Captain
~Hall of Fame~
Team Provided by talkingtree | Won by Paraplegic

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Kangaskhan-Mega @ Kangaskhanite
Ability: Scrappy
EVs: 80 HP / 216 Atk / 16 SpD / 196 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Power-Up Punch
- Return
- Sucker Punch
- Protect

Suicune @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 144 SpA / 40 SpD / 56 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tailwind
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Snarl

Hydreigon @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dark Pulse
- Draco Meteor
- Earth Power
- Protect

Infernape @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 32 Atk / 224 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Fake Out
- Close Combat
- Overheat
- Protect

Amoonguss @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 240 HP / 220 Def / 48 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Spore
- Rage Powder
- Giga Drain
- Protect

Winning Set:
Aegislash @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 108 SpA / 80 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shadow Ball
- Flash Cannon
- Wide Guard
- King's Shield


Actual Set:
Thundurus @ Magnet
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Thunder Wave
- Protect
Team Provided by Paraplegic | Won by BlueSkiddoWeCanToo

| Winner
| Actual

Metagross-Mega @ Metagrossite
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 16 HP / 252 Atk / 240 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Zen Headbutt
- Hammer Arm
- Protect

Thundurus @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 244 HP / 104 Def / 132 SpD / 28 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunder Wave
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Taunt

Hydreigon @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse
- Earth Power
- Protect

Landorus-Therian @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Superpower
- U-turn

Volcanion @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 108 Def / 96 SpA / 44 SpD / 8 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Steam Eruption
- Heat Wave
- Sludge Bomb
- Protect

Winning Set:
Sylveon @ Choice Specs
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 56 HP / 200 Def / 252 SpA
Quiet Nature
IVs: 30 HP / 0 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpD / 0 Spe
- Hyper Voice
- Psyshock
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Moonblast


Actual Set:
Conkeldurr @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 HP / 44 Atk / 88 Def / 124 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Hammer Arm
- Wide Guard
- Mach Punch
- Ice Punch
Team Provided by BlueSkiddoWeCanToo | Won by Nollan

| Winner
| Actual

Gardevoir-Mega @ Gardevoirite
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psychic
- Hyper Voice
- Encore
- Protect

Genesect @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Download
EVs: 252 Atk / 64 SpA / 192 Spe
Naive Nature
- U-turn
- Iron Head
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt

Volcanion @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 116 HP / 252 SpA / 140 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Heat Wave
- Steam Eruption
- Substitute
- Protect

Landorus-Therian @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Superpower
- Protect

Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Giga Drain
- Spore
- Rage Powder
- Protect

Winning Set:
Tyranitar @ Lum Berry
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 36 HP / 252 Atk / 220 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Crunch
- Rock Slide
- Dragon Dance
- Protect

Actual Set:
Salamence @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tailwind
- Fire Blast
- Draco Meteor
- Hydro Pump
Team Provided by n1n1 | Won by Matame
| Winner
| Actual

Tyranitar-Mega @ Tyranitarite
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 20 HP / 252 Atk / 236 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Slide
- Crunch
- Dragon Dance
- Protect

Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Psychic
- Draco Meteor
- Shadow Ball
- Protect

Talonflame @ Choice Band
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 88 HP / 252 Atk / 168 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Brave Bird
- Steel Wing
- U-turn

Jirachi @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 122 Def / 134 SpD
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Icy Wind
- Follow Me
- Protect

Keldeo @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Secret Sword
- Scald
- Icy Wind
- Protect

Winning Set:
Swampert @ Expert Belt
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Wide Guard
- Ice Beam
- Scald
- Earth Power


Actual Set:
Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Atk / 52 SpD
Brave Nature
- Power Whip
- Gyro Ball
- Knock Off
- Protect
Team Provided by Matame | Won by Bughouse
| Winner
| Actual

Aerodactyl-Mega @ Aerodactylite
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Slide
- Aerial Ace
- Wide Guard
- Aqua Tail

Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Tailwind
- Protect

Bisharp @ Focus Sash
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Knock Off
- Sucker Punch
- Iron Head
- Protect

Rotom-Wash @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Trick

Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Rage Powder
- Giga Drain
- Spore
- Protect

Winning Set:
Infernape @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 36 Atk / 220 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Overheat
- Close Combat
- Fake Out
- Protect


Actual Set:
Blaziken @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 80 Atk / 176 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
IVs: 30 HP / 30 Def
- Overheat
- Protect
- Superpower
- Hidden Power [Ice]
Team Provided by Bughouse | Won by FloristtheBudew
| Winner
| Actual

Thundurus @ Magnet
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute

Metagross @ Metagrossite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 16 HP / 240 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Zen Headbutt
- Bullet Punch
- Protect

Keldeo-Resolute @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Secret Sword
- Protect
- Icy Wind

Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Atk / 84 Def
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Power Whip
- Gyro Ball
- Knock Off
- Protect

Talonflame @ Life Orb
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Tailwind
- Flare Blitz
- Protect

Winning Set:
Landorus-Therian @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Stone Edge
- Protect


Actual Set:
Hydreigon @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 216 HP / 152 SpA / 16 SpD / 124 Spe
Modest Nature
- Dark Pulse
- Draco Meteor
- Roost
- Protect
Team Provided by FloristtheBudew | Won by AuraRayquaza
| Winner
| Actual

Politoed @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 100 SpA / 56 SpD / 4 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Icy Wind
- Helping Hand
- Protect

Kingdra @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 12 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 236 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Muddy Water
- Draco Meteor
- Disable
- Protect

Landorus-Therian @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 64 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 184 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Superpower
- Rock Slide
- U-turn

Thundurus @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 64 SpA / 4 SpD / 20 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Thunder Wave
- Protect

Gardevoir-Mega @ Gardevoirite
Ability: Trace
EVs: 108 HP / 40 Def / 104 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hyper Voice
- Psychic
- Encore
- Protect

Winning Set:
Aegislash @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- King's Shield
- Substitute
- Wide Guard
- Shadow Ball


Actual Set:
Scizor @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Atk / 28 Def / 8 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Bug Bite
- Swords Dance
- Protect
Team Provided by AuraRayquaza | Won by marilli
| Winner
| Actual

Kangaskhan-Mega @ Kangaskhanite
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 HP / 228 Atk / 28 Def
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Fake Out
- Return
- Power-Up Punch
- Sucker Punch

Hoopa-Unbound @ Focus Sash
Ability: Magician
EVs: 252 Atk / 40 Def / 216 SpA
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Trick Room
- Hyperspace Fury
- Hyperspace Hole
- Protect

Jirachi @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 24 Atk / 92 Def / 140 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Follow Me
- Trick Room
- Iron Head
- Protect

Heatran @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpA
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Eruption
- Heat Wave
- Earth Power
- Protect

Conkeldurr @ Life Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Hammer Arm
- Mach Punch
- Ice Punch
- Wide Guard

Winning Set:
Gyarados @ Choice Band
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
IVs: 0 Spe
Brave Nature
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge
- Return
- Facade / Sleep Talk


Actual Set:
Rotom-Wash @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 104 Def / 128 SpA / 28 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp
- Protect
Team Provided by marilli | Won by KyleCole
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Bisharp @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Knock Off
- Sucker Punch
- Iron Head

Terrakion @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Slide
- Close Combat
- Protect
- Quick Guard

Thundurus @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 220 HP / 36 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave
- Taunt
- Flash Cannon

Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Protect
- Tailwind
- Draco Meteor
- Psychic

Venusaur-Mega @ Venusaurite
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 244 HP / 132 Def / 72 SpA / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis

Winning Set:
Volcanion @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Def / 96 SpA / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Steam Eruption
- Heat Wave
- Substitute
- Protect


Actual Set:
Volcanion @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 112 HP / 252 SpA / 144 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Heat Wave
- Steam Eruption
- Overheat
- Protect
Team Provided by KyleCole | Won by Tymano
| Winner
| Actual

Gardevoir-Mega @ Gardevoirite
Ability: Trace
EVs: 8 HP / 152 Def / 96 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hyper Voice
- Psyshock
- Calm Mind
- Protect

Heatran @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 24 HP / 232 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Heat Wave
- Earth Power
- Substitute
- Protect

Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 124 Def / 132 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Spore
- Rage Powder
- Giga Drain
- Sunny Day

Landorus-Therian @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 56 HP / 144 Atk / 56 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- U-turn
- Superpower

Hydreigon @ Black Glasses
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 36 HP / 32 Def / 188 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse
- Tailwind
- Protect

Winning Set:
Keldeo @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Secret Sword
- Icy Wind
- Protect


Actual Set:
Rotom-Wash @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 120 SpA / 116 SpD / 16 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Electroweb
- Toxic
- Protect
Team Provided by Tymano | Won by Memoric
| Winner
| Actual

Diancie-Mega @ Diancite
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 208 Atk / 48 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Diamond Storm
- Moonblast
- Earth Power
- Protect

Victini @ Life Orb
Ability: Victory Star
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- V-create
- Bolt Strike
- U-turn
- Protect

Keldeo @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Secret Sword
- Icy Wind
- Protect

Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Spore
- Rage Powder
- Giga Drain
- Protect

Aegislash @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- King's Shield
- Shadow Ball
- Flash Cannon
- Substitute

Winning Set:
Thundurus @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 244 HP / 164 Def / 4 SpA / 76 SpD / 20 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Taunt
- Thunder Wave


Actual Set:
Salamence @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Iron Tail
- Hydro Pump
- Tailwind
Team Provided by Memoric | Won by GiraGoomy
| Winner
| Actual

Diancie-Mega @ Diancite
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 208 Atk / 48 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Diamond Storm
- Moonblast
- Earth Power
- Protect

Salamence @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 29 HP / 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Hydro Pump
- Fire Blast
- Tailwind

Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Huge Power
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Knock Off
- Belly Drum
- Protect

Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 176 Atk / 80 Def
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Power Whip
- Leech Seed
- Gyro Ball
- Protect

Raikou @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 24 SpA / 232 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave
- Snarl
- Protect

Winning Set:
Volcarona @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Flame Body
EV's: 224 HP / 72 Def / 96 SpA / 116 Spe
Modest Nature
- Protect
- Rage Powder
- Overheat
- Hidden Power Ice


Actual Set:
Talonflame @ Life Orb
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Steel Wing
- Protect
Team Provided by GiraGoomy | Won by Carbonific
| Winner
| Actual


Gengar-Mega @ Gengarite
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Will-O-Wisp
- Protect

Blaziken @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 80 Atk / 176 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Overheat
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Superpower
- Protect

Thundurus @ Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Protect
- Thunder Wave
- Taunt

Ferrothorn @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Atk / 84 Def
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Gyro Ball
- Power Whip
- Leech Seed
- Protect

Suicune @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 28 HP / 252 SpA / 228 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Roar
- Protect

Winning Set:
Hydreigon @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse
- Tailwind
- Protect


Actual Set:
Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tailwind
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Protect
Team Provided by n10sit | Won by Matame
| Winner
| Actual

Terrakion @ Lum Berry
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Slide
- Close Combat
- Quick Guard
- Protect

Whimsicott @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 196 HP / 96 SpA / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
- Moonblast
- Tailwind
- Encore
- Beat Up

Gengar-Mega @ Gengarite
Ability: Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Disable
- Protect

Scrafty @ Assault Vest
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 156 HP / 252 Atk / 100 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Knock Off
- Low Kick
- Ice Punch

Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 116 HP / 216 Atk / 176 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Knock Off
- Belly Drum
- Protect

Winning Set:
Thundurus-Therian @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 36 HP / 252 SpA / 220 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Grass Knot
- Volt Switch


Actual Set:
Togekiss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 60 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Air Slash
- Tailwind
- Follow Me
- Protect
Team Provided by Matame | Won by Mishimono
| Winner
| Actual

Hoopa-Unbound @ Life Orb
Ability: Magician
EVs: 192 Atk / 64 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Hyperspace Fury
- Hyperspace Hole
- Substitute
- Protect

Sylveon @ Pixie Plate
Ability: Pixilate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 232 HP / 100 Def / 88 SpA / 88 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 SpA / 30 SpD
- Hyper Voice
- Hidden Power [Ground]
- Calm Mind
- Protect

Salamence @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Hydro Pump
- Tailwind

Jirachi @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Atk / 92 Def / 40 SpD / 108 Spe
Impish Nature
- Iron Head
- Icy Wind
- Follow Me
- Protect

Kangaskhan-Mega @ Kangaskhanite
Ability: Scrappy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Return
- Power-Up Punch
- Sucker Punch
- Fake Out

Winning Set:
Thundurus @ Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Protect
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power [Ice]


Actual Set:
Thundurus @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Prankster
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 220 HP / 36 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Thunder Wave
- Taunt
Team Provided by Mishimono | Won by marilli
| Winner
| Actual

Diancie-Mega @ Diancite
Ability: Magic Bounce
EVs: 208 Atk / 48 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Moonblast
- Diamond Storm
- Earth Power
- Protect

Volcarona @ Lum Berry
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Flamethrower
- Giga Drain
- Quiver Dance
- Protect

Landorus-Therian @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Superpower
- Rock Slide
- U-turn

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Atk / 76 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Power Whip
- Gyro Ball
- Leech Seed
- Protect

Thundurus @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 244 HP / 104 Def / 8 SpA / 132 SpD / 20 Spe
Modest Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave
- Taunt
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Winning Set:
Alomomola @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Def / 216 SpD
Bold Nature
- Wide Guard
- Heal Pulse
- Mirror Coat
- Scald


Actual Set:
Keldeo @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Secret Sword
- Protect
- Quick Guard
 
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Kangaskhan-Mega @ Kangaskhanite
Ability: Scrappy
EVs: 80 HP / 216 Atk / 16 SpD / 196 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Power-Up Punch
- Return
- Sucker Punch
- Protect

Suicune @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Def / 144 SpA / 40 SpD / 56 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tailwind
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Snarl

Hydreigon @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dark Pulse
- Draco Meteor
- Earth Power
- Protect

Infernape @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 32 Atk / 224 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Fake Out
- Close Combat
- Overheat
- Protect

Amoonguss @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 240 HP / 220 Def / 48 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Spore
- Rage Powder
- Giga Drain
- Protect


The team focuses around a Protect Mega Kangaskhan clean, and every member of the team is aimed at removing threats to its success. Suicune provides crucial speed control with Tailwind and beats both Landorus-T and Mega Diancie. Hydreigon takes on pesky Ghost-types and bulky Steels that can take a +2 Return. Infernape brings Fake Out to make up for Mega Kangaskhan lacking the move, and demolishes Ferrothorn and Amoonguss. An Amoonguss of its own allows this team some redirection to facilitate the Mega Kangaskhan sweep, with a Sitrus Berry so that Mega Kangaskhan can side PuP....

But what's their last?

Submissions close Wednesday June 22nd 11:59pm EDT
 
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Paraplegic

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Reserving Aegislash

Actual Submission:

Aegislash @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 108 SpA / 80 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Shadow Ball
- Flash Cannon
- Wide Guard
- King's Shield

Ok so, I feel this Aegislash set would be an asset to this team. The evs look... odd, but let me explain them. The 252 hp is needed for the bulk in shield form so Aegis can do its job. The weird looking defense evs are there since I can see Talonflame giving the team a bit of trouble(not too much since Suicune is there, but still pretty threatening), and with them, it is guaranteed to live an adamant life orb flareblitz from Talon 100% of the time, making it a fair option vs. Talon teams for its potential to 1v1 said threat. The 80 speed evs are there since so it can outspeed base 110 speed mons under tailwind, a lot of which are pretty threatening, such as Latios, M-Metagross, and Especially M-Diancie, all of which it beats. The rest is thrown in Special Attack so it doesn't hit piss weak. I realize this is still a fairly weak Aegi spread, but that is where weakness policy comes in(not that it isnt standard anyways). With weakness policy, it has the potential to beat a lot of really threatening mons to the team 1v1, which the team of course really appreciates. I also happen to notice a late game scarf Lando-T really cleans shop with earthquake, which is why I added wide guard over some coverage option to help that match up, as well as really helping one of the teams worst match ups in general, which is a fast M-Gardevoir. Fast Mega-Garde, such as the one on n10sit's pretty widely known team, is a super bad match up to the current 5 members. The combination of fairy and psychic coverage severely dents if not faints every single one of the 5 current mons , and to top it off outspeeds each and every current member(the reason why I said fast Garde in particular). Aegis, whilst not outspeeding it, offers super effective coverage vs M-Garde while also offering wide guard support to protect all the team members from Garde's wretched screams, which the team desperately needs. Due to this I feel an Aegislash set like this, or at least one very similar to it, is the best fit for this teams last slot.

ps. I apologize for the long winded explanation. Its just things like this need to have thought put into them, and I wanted my post to reflect that!
 
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Reserving Lando-T

originally, I was considering this set, to bluff scarf and be able to have the versatility to swap moves, especially under tailwind.

expert belt (Landorus-Therian) (M) @ Expert Belt
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stone Edge
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Protect

But then I realized I only wanted to use expert belt because it was cool, not that it was better for the team necessarily.

The team really suffers from a lack of speed, so there's no need for inventiveness when you can just use standard sets lol.

Landorus-Therian @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Superpower
- U-turn

from the analysis: "Landorus-T can fit well on any kind of team due to having a unique assortment of niches that lets it function in both offensive and subtle supportive roles while at the same time causing little or unnoticeable overlap synergy-wise." lol
The team, built to support Kang, really benefits from lando's intimidate. This team's ground immune (hydreigon) dies to opposing lando-T's superpower's and u-turns, and basically opposing Lando-T give this team a lot of trouble. Stone Edge is for the potential KO on Thundurus, since both offensive and support thundy's give this team a lot of trouble in general. The team also seemed M-Diancie and Talon weak, and Lando-T added checks to these two very well. There's really not much else to say that isn't incredibly obvious.
Standard Lando-T with stone edge really fits on this team. There's a reason why doge is the most splashable mon I guess, wouldn't be surprised if it is chosen every single week for this competition (unless it's already on the team).
 
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Latios @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Recover
- Protect

Latios is an Amoonguss and Keldeo killer, along with a secondary fighting check. It also provides a check to Kyurem-B (but not a switch in) as it's able to OHKO it with Drco Meteor and can break its sub with Psychock. Recover allows is to stay healthy so it can continue to check intimidate + amoonguss.
 

n1n1

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This team is sitting in that mediocre speed range and just looks like Latios and Lando will fuck shit up if suicune cant come into play. So my 6th mon must improve the Latios match up and improve the Lando match up and preferable ground immune, because only 1 ground immune who gets killed by both latios and lando.
Also fighting types look like they could be a problem for kang, hydre, and even suicune. So I got to improve fighting match up. Preferably with intimate/wisp/ghost
Like I said this team's speed is an issue. I want a mon to be at that 110 mark or offer some great speed control TW/icywind/twave
Being that the fire type is frail and neutral to fairy moves and that all the only hyper voice resist is weak amoonguss I want a steel or a strong sludge bomb
finally a trick room check would be nice



Gengar @ Focus Sash
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Icy Wind
- Will-O-Wisp
- Sludge Bomb
- Shadow Ball


Gengar gives me the 110 speed, the fighting immune, and ground immune that I felt like this team needed

- Icy Wind - Gives me that speed control and makes it difficult for Latios and Lando to switch in
- Will-O-Wisp - Adds another way for me to check the Landos and Kangs
- Sludge Bomb - This is the hard hitter against fairies
- Shadow Ball - My strong move to hit Latios and TR setters with
 
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Looks like KangaSharp to me

So... standard LO Bisharp. You know the set. 252/252 Sucker Knock Iron Head Tect.
 

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In case it wasn't clear, the nomination phase is also meant to be a discussion phase - If you feel that someone else has already written about your preferred last Pokemon, you can post to talk about anything you feel may have been missed or discuss pros / cons to the options already listed. The OP will be edited to reflect this, so carry on everyone :]
 

Paraplegic

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I'll try to spearhead some discussion I guess. I am of the opinion that the only potential mons for the last slot are aegi(hence why I did it) and scarf lando. Spoiler incase you havent somehow figured it out: The team is incredibly garde weak. Aegi is the obvious solution( if you want to know why, read my post above!) and I can personally see a scarf lando working here since its a good mon in general, provides intimidate which the team lacks, deals with some problem mons like m-metagross and m-diancie, and provides a way to deal nice damage to gardevoir. Lando+kang is probs enough to deal with a garde if played correctly, but honestly I think aegi is by far the best solution to all the problems this team faces.

edit: Also, bisharp is honestly so bad on this team. TR is covered as is, double dark isnt exactly ideal, and it makes the team kang weak, since it comes in on half the mons and then fucks shit up.
 
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Memoric

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Looking at the team composition, I think it's highly likely that the last is a fast Pokemon. This is because the 5 we have now is pretty slow and very reliant on Tailwind from Suicune getting up. As much as possible, a team shouldn't be totally reliant on their speed control in order to have a Speed advantage; rather, a team should have at least that one fast mon to serve as a Speed safety net like Fast Thund, MAero (if building around it), MGar, etc. Opposing teams with faster threats of their own can just keep pounding at this team and if Suicune gets overloaded with too much pressure, that's one step closer to a loss. From the top of my head, the team has a bit of a notable weakness to the following: Mega Diancie, which just clicks Diamond Storm to apply pressure; Mega Metagross and Latios, both of which can just click the appropriate attacks without getting threatened by anything; Talonflame, which can just click Brave Bird; and Mega Gardevoir, which can just click Hyper Voice. Of course, due to the nature of the team, the last doesn't necessarily have to be a hard switchin or counter to the said threats—it can simply be a check that compliments the team on a bigger picture; a defensive approach to an otherwise offensive team can end up not actually fixing some actual problems to the build and might end up being a band-aid fix to a bullet hole.

Considering the stuff I said above, my submission is Offensive 3 Attacks Thundurus


Thundurus @ Life Orb
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Protect

I believe this is set is a decent last for the 5 because not only can it give the team the Speed that it needs, letting it keep up the pace and offense that it wants, but also it serves as a (situational) check to many things that trouble it such as Mega Diancie, Latios, and Talonflame. It also gives the team another way of handling Water-types and other threats by the situation thanks to its high Speed and general power. The moveset, item, and spread is obvious aside for HP Ice over Thunder Wave; I chose it for this set because the team doesn't really "need" the Thunder Wave support much and would rather have more ways to hit Dragon-types and Landorus-T (whether in Tailwind or on a prediction) without switching out and forfeiting momentum.
 
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tentative reservation on scarf garde
we all know it sucks but I just wanna try it out in practice

e: surprise surprise nonmega garde is trash
 
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miltankmilk

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Some things I noticed when looking at the team were that it had minimal answers to Gardevoir, Latios, Mega Diancie while also looking for the "Speed Safety Net" as Memoric outlined above. To me, Scarf Genesect really fits this slot well because it will outspeed almost everything you come across, easily revenges the Mega Fairy types and can also pick up momentum with U-turn which is always helpful.

Genesect @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Download
EVs: 252 Atk / 64 SpA / 192 Spe
Hasty Nature
- U-turn
- Iron Head
- Ice Beam
- Extreme Speed/Explosion

Pretty standard Genesect set with the exception of Extreme Speed. The team is kinda talon weak and not that genesect should be a counter to it but it lets it pick off Talon in a pinch.
 

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Nothing much to say here but a steel in last slot seems ideal as it betters matchup against latios, gardevoir, kyurem black and mega diancie. Teams in general value the support value that jirachi provides. Though im not quite too sure im supposed to post about it due to it being suspected currently but oh well, here's a shot. Follow me redirects a move so that its teammate avoids unnecessary damage and can get some free damage off on an opponent. Or mega khan could easily click on PUP and there you go, a threatening mon with a +2 boost. Icy Wind for speed control, i guess thunder wave is an option too but due to all the landorus therian's running around, its nice to catch them on a potential switch. Protect is there for some general scouting.


Jirachi @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 92 Def / 164 SpD
Impish Nature
- Follow Me
- Iron Head
- Icy Wind
- Protect
 

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I've had a few complaints about the reservations system, so I'm planning on removing it for next week. However, I wanted to give you guys a chance to weigh in in case there was an angle I have yet to consider.

Also, any reservations that have been posted are technically expired so if you want to write up a mon that's reserved, go ahead.
 

Paraplegic

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I've had a few complaints about the reservations system, so I'm planning on removing it for next week. However, I wanted to give you guys a chance to weigh in in case there was an angle I have yet to consider.

Also, any reservations that have been posted are technically expired so if you want to write up a mon that's reserved, go ahead.
Ok so I pm'd tree with an idea and he said to post it here so... yeah.

I feel like the reservation system has benefits, but 24 hours is way to long of a time to keep a mon w/o others being able to touch it. My proposal is we make the reservation time just an hour or two. That way you can reserve a mon and have a chance to write your submission without having to worry about someone beating you to it. But at the same time, it isnt a whole day where no one else has dibs which is really not fair. So yeah, make reservation time just an hour or two is my proposal!
 

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So sorry this is late, I promise I will not be making a habit of it, but now we're gonna move on to the voting phase! Please post your vote for the ONE Pokemon that you think would best fill out the team, and as a quick reminder you may not vote for your own entry.

Is their last...
Paraplegic's Aegislash
clius's Landorus-T
GreenGogoatttt's Latios
n1n1's Gengar
Bughouse's Bisharp
Memoric's Thundurus
miltankmilk's Genesect
Camilas's Jirachi

Voting closes on Sunday at noon EST!
 

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