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Wi-Fi Blacklist: as of January 30th, 2014
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Where am i able to do damage calculations because i would be happy to
Not involved, but here's a link to a damage calculator. (Metalkid's)
http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/OnlineProgram/Calculators/DamageDP.aspx
http://www.metalkid.info/Pokemon/OnlineProgram/Calculators/DamageDP.aspx
GogoSan, next time you report somebody as a hacker, at least pay attention to move details such as dragon dance and other stat changers.
Ok yes that is a better idea because i am unsure how to do this damage calculator
Well i have to leave for work in about 15 minutes so gogo are you going to trade with me or not
Dude it has been like 2 hours How do we know you didn't just train your infernape just now or anything like that? I had more than one dragon dance.
Wondering if I can be moved onto Probation as well. Though, my DC was intentional, I admit. I did soon regret my actions before being blacklisted and offered him a win as compensation and/or for redemption. Well, that's all I got. Hopefully you(the Smogon Moderators) will take this into consideration. =/
I'm not entirely sure this is the right place for this. In fact, I'm relatively certain it isn't, but I hope it's okay that I post it here. Apologies if it isn't, I just didn't think it had any chance of being noticed in the Battle Me Thread.
Anyway, this is an issue that has been bothering me for some time, and I've had to quit multiple battles because of it. The issue I'm talking about is the difference between legal hacks and illegal hacks.
Shiny Electivire with Follow Me
Dragon Dance Salamence in a Quick Ball
Counter Gengar in a Dusk Ball
These are not legal pokemon, yet I have encountered pokemon similar to these on multiple occasions, including by people who don't even say they are using hacks. If it isn't obvious already, pokemon like this are unfair to use because the opposition will assume they cannot carry moves that they, in fact, have. For example, I played a VGC match against somebody who led with a Shiny E-vire and something else. Since E-vire didn't threaten my pokemon, I focused my attacks on his partner, knowing that there is no such thing as Shiny XD pokemon, which is how E-vire gets Follow Me. But lo and behold, he used Follow Me, rendering my attacks relatively useless (so I instantly D/C'd). Anyway, pokemon like this should definitely be illegal because of how they can change the course of a match. IMO something should be written in the OP of the Battle Me thread addressing this issue so that people aren't duped by illegal combos anymore, and so that hackers are aware of what moves the can "legally" hack onto their pokemon. Let me know what you think, mods and others.
Once again, I apologize if this seems out of place. It does indirectly concern the Blacklist though, I suppose.
Anyway, this is an issue that has been bothering me for some time, and I've had to quit multiple battles because of it. The issue I'm talking about is the difference between legal hacks and illegal hacks.
Shiny Electivire with Follow Me
Dragon Dance Salamence in a Quick Ball
Counter Gengar in a Dusk Ball
These are not legal pokemon, yet I have encountered pokemon similar to these on multiple occasions, including by people who don't even say they are using hacks. If it isn't obvious already, pokemon like this are unfair to use because the opposition will assume they cannot carry moves that they, in fact, have. For example, I played a VGC match against somebody who led with a Shiny E-vire and something else. Since E-vire didn't threaten my pokemon, I focused my attacks on his partner, knowing that there is no such thing as Shiny XD pokemon, which is how E-vire gets Follow Me. But lo and behold, he used Follow Me, rendering my attacks relatively useless (so I instantly D/C'd). Anyway, pokemon like this should definitely be illegal because of how they can change the course of a match. IMO something should be written in the OP of the Battle Me thread addressing this issue so that people aren't duped by illegal combos anymore, and so that hackers are aware of what moves the can "legally" hack onto their pokemon. Let me know what you think, mods and others.
Once again, I apologize if this seems out of place. It does indirectly concern the Blacklist though, I suppose.
Need i say more?
Hackers are never going to bother folowing the rules. I no longer waste my time trying to blacklist poeple for these small (yet, sometimes fairly important) details.
Well, regardless, I added some text to the battle me thread to make sure that people know that the "legal hacks" thing is infractible and to give some examples of blacklistable offenses such as the ones Diesel mentioned.
EDIT: And people, report this sort of thing here. This is not directed at you, Diesel, but folks who like to accuse directly in the battle me topic. Don't. It moves so fast that we (the mods) can't really read every single post there. So if there is an issue like this do the following --
Get your shit together. Don't come here with half assed information. We want real explainations and damage calcs if necessary.
Try to go into a trade with the other party (when you suspect hacked stats/EVs). If they refuse, make a note of that fact when presenting here.
Finally, post.
EDIT: And people, report this sort of thing here. This is not directed at you, Diesel, but folks who like to accuse directly in the battle me topic. Don't. It moves so fast that we (the mods) can't really read every single post there. So if there is an issue like this do the following --
Get your shit together. Don't come here with half assed information. We want real explainations and damage calcs if necessary.
Try to go into a trade with the other party (when you suspect hacked stats/EVs). If they refuse, make a note of that fact when presenting here.
Finally, post.
@BlakBlastoise - People who aren't knowledgeable about obtaining Pokemon (such as people who hack them) might not realize or think to research what combinations of shininess/poke balls/ and moves are actually legal, so Mingot's addition to the Battle Me thread hopefully just brought this to the attention of some of them. I don't really care if they're hackers or not, to be honest, I just want to have a fair match. Also, now if people don't follow this rule, they can't say they didn't know (and get away with it). Basically I was just sick of having illegal combos ruin my matches, so I thought it was worth saving other people the same annoyance.
@Mingot - Thanks :D
@Mingot - Thanks :D
hi i was wondering if i could be moved to the Probational blacklist i would like to get my name cleared on smogon.
To return on Magicmike09 there and his hacks: thus his Salamence if it has max pv and defense max with 31ivs my gyarados makes him that dammage with stone edge:
Min: 214 avg: 233.62 Max:252 How he can that his salamence sets that 50 % and I doubt that it has 252evs hp and def and 31ivs...
Infernape jolly with 346 of lives slower than Charizard not scarf...
His Gyarados after a DD and with life orb takes down my Shaymin without HP while he(it) has 329PV and 221 of def. Dégats: min: 243 avg: 264 max: 286...
Voucher I think that you understood...
Min: 214 avg: 233.62 Max:252 How he can that his salamence sets that 50 % and I doubt that it has 252evs hp and def and 31ivs...
Infernape jolly with 346 of lives slower than Charizard not scarf...
His Gyarados after a DD and with life orb takes down my Shaymin without HP while he(it) has 329PV and 221 of def. Dégats: min: 243 avg: 264 max: 286...
Voucher I think that you understood...
first off, people can't understand half of the things you're trying to say.
What's Pv btw unless I'm missing something here?
Like I said before, Pm me your exact stats or go into a trade and I'll do the calculations and post them here.
I'm here to report Monk for hacking/trading hacks.
I had the Wish Blissey he traded me hack checked, because, well, it's an event and likely to be hacked.
It came back hacked, here's the screenshot of the legit.exe check:
http://s561.photobucket.com/albums/ss58/jaimitovond_2009/?action=view¤t=Dibujo.jpg
I don't know if it's his OT or not, but he still traded me the hack, which I believe is also against the rules.
Thank you,
DanielSuperpoke
I had the Wish Blissey he traded me hack checked, because, well, it's an event and likely to be hacked.
It came back hacked, here's the screenshot of the legit.exe check:
http://s561.photobucket.com/albums/ss58/jaimitovond_2009/?action=view¤t=Dibujo.jpg
I don't know if it's his OT or not, but he still traded me the hack, which I believe is also against the rules.
Thank you,
DanielSuperpoke
I was under the knowledge that it was legit, since that's what the guy who traded it to me told me. I had no way of knowing it was hacked, since no one responded to my need of a hack check. I traded it to Daniel thinking it was a legit pokemon, but apparently it's not. And in all fairness, it was actually a "gift" to him, for the troubles they had during the first day of thier trade thread. The true "trade" pokemon was my Raikou, which I believe is legit, since he did not say my Raikou was hacked.
Yeah, the Raikou is legit, I know since I was Daniel`s hackchecker, however, the Bliss is a hack, and Monk, remember, if somthing seems too good to be true, it probably is, you shouldnt have traded it if you doubted of its legitness
At the time, I believed Blissey was a legitimate event. I obviously don't hack, because from your post, it can be affirmed that my raikou was indeed legit. I was simply the victim of a guy out on the internet trying to trick kids and adults likewise into thinking they were getting a real event, but instead getting a hack
Monk
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So, if I'm on the probationary blacklist, I have to close my thread, correct?
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