Hey; I have a quick question. Is shedinja with wonder guard banned in balanced hackmons, or is it just all other pokemon with wonder guard. I've seen different answers in different places, so I'm hoping I can get a definite answer here. Thanks.
All other pokemon with Wonder Guard are banned. Likewise, Meditite, Medicham, Maril, Azumaril, and Azuril can have Huge/Pure Power, but all other pokemon cannot.Hey; I have a quick question. Is shedinja with wonder guard banned in balanced hackmons, or is it just all other pokemon with wonder guard. I've seen different answers in different places, so I'm hoping I can get a definite answer here. Thanks.
Probably not. Prankster Groudon with Spore and Nature Power is THE most common thing in BH though.Just starting to get into this tier on Showdown..and was wondering, would it be possible to get a list of common sets added to the OP?
This is not true, Deoxys-S and Imposter Blissey (also various forms of Giratina) are significantly more used than any Groudon set.Probably not. Prankster Groudon with Spore and Nature Power is THE most common thing in BH though.
If an ability/move is banned in BH, it is banned on everything. Shedinja cannot use Wonder Guard, Medicham cannot use Pure Power, Kyogre cannot use Sheer Cold, etc.Hey; I have a quick question. Is shedinja with wonder guard banned in balanced hackmons, or is it just all other pokemon with wonder guard. I've seen different answers in different places, so I'm hoping I can get a definite answer here. Thanks.
May I ask why? This seems a little odd to me.If an ability/move is banned in BH, it is banned on everything. Shedinja cannot use Wonder Guard, Medicham cannot use Pure Power, Kyogre cannot use Sheer Cold, etc.
Zarel didn't want the bans to be more complex than they already are. It's not as if Wonder Guard Shedinja and Pure Power Medicham would see much use at all anyways.May I ask why? This seems a little odd to me.
Apart from hatred of complex bans (the real reason) letting Pokemon use moves they already know would open up the floor to all kinds of things that the bans were put in place to stop, the best example being Choice Scarf No Guard Sheer Cold Kyogre.May I ask why? This seems a little odd to me.
For Giratina, leech seed and phazing are counterintuitive. Something like aqua ring might suit you better. Also, his weaknesses are ghost dark ice and dragon, two of which Metagross is neutral to. I'm not sure about how common the types of moves are in this meta, but a pure steel type like Registeel has better defensive synergy as well as higher stats than Meta (especially on special side).These sets have proven to be very useful in countering common meta game choices, but I would like an opinion on them as their sets are a little odd.
Giratina @ Leftovers
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef / 252 Spd
Careful Nature
- Leech Seed
- Cosmic Power
- Dragon Tail
- Clear Smog
Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Spore
- Nature Power
- Heart Swap
- Recover
Imposter Blissey is a counter to setup sweepers, it is not a sweeper itself. Considering Imposter Blissey only gets 5 PP for each move, and only 5 PP total if it holds a choice scarf, it is far from broken, and rarely is able to pull off a sweep. Also, as copies your Pokemon, you should be able to prepare for it as you know its entire moveset and can plan your team accordingly.my argument is simply the fact that is is completely overcentralising and requires far too mcuh dedication to fully counter. I am desparate to see this thign banned to the unrestricted Hackmons tier.
If you have no trouble with setup sweepers, then why do you have trouble with Imposter Blissey copying your setup sweepers?I myself have NEVER used Imposter Blissey and have zero trouble with setup sweepers.
This here, is a person who understands the real threat to setup sweepers.If you rely on setup sweepers, you should be more worried about Heart Swappers than Imposter Blissey. Blissey can only copy your boosts, but Heart Swap STEALS your boosts and leaves you with none. Plus it can't be blocked by Substitute and Illusion like Imposter can.
If your setup sweeper does not have substitute, Imposter Blissey does effectively the same thing as a Heart Swap pokemon would. If it holds Choice Scarf it will always outspeed the pokemon it switches in on and, assuming it copies a decent amount of offensive boosts, will be able to easily OHKO the opponent. This still leaves you with the boosts, with your opponent having none. If Blissey does not carry a choice scarf, you will still have a 50% chance of outspeeding it and, failing that, Blissey has a much better chance of surviving an attack than its opponent has (Which still leaves you with the boosts and your opponent with none).If you rely on setup sweepers, you should be more worried about Heart Swappers than Imposter Blissey. Blissey can only copy your boosts, but Heart Swap STEALS your boosts and leaves you with none. Plus it can't be blocked by Substitute and Illusion like Imposter can.
Chansey's physical defence is still pretty horrible after Guard Split, as on for example Slaking you're looking at around 55 Defence and a Power Split on something like Slaking wouldn't come at the right time thanks to Slaking's monstrous 160 Attack. It simply can't stand to the powerful physical attacks in BH, with things like Slaking, Regigigas and Groudon. It could work, and you made that set well, but Metal Burst won't do anything to Special Attackers thanks to the natural special bulk of Chansey, Physical Attackers will prey on this thing thanks to its rock-bottom defence stat, and it is complete Taunt bait. I would personally use something like Slaking for this set, as it has a great 150 HP stat, it doesn't need to use Guard/Power Split so it can use an attack, and it has just about the right defences for this role.Chansey@eviolite
Ability: Shadow Tag
Nature: Relaxed
IVs/EVs: 0/0 Spe
Moves:
1. Encore
2. Guard Split/Power Split
3. Roost (Morning Sun in Sunny team)
4. Metal burst
Main idea:
What if Chansey and Blissey can be as modified Wobbuffets? They have more HP than this punching bag and can be annoying too. the main issue is that Chansey has only 5 in Defense but that can be fixed with Guard Split or with crippling foe's Attack and SpA with Power Split.
I've been running Prankster Taunt on setup sweepers/receivers for this very reason - works wonders.If you rely on setup sweepers, you should be more worried about Heart Swappers than Imposter Blissey. Blissey can only copy your boosts, but Heart Swap STEALS your boosts and leaves you with none. Plus it can't be blocked by Substitute and Illusion like Imposter can.