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Considering he is using superpower, using modest would be a very bad idea, as it will have trouble breaking blissey and friends as is
LilOu
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He means modest :]
I hate to say this, because its a terrible Blissey ev spread, but the most common bold 252 / 252 Blissey is never 2HKOed by life orb superpower from Thundurus-T and neither is Chansey.
LilOu
PO poopyhead
Here some calcs
68 Atk Life Orb Rash Thundurus-T Superpower vs 252 HP/252 Def Blissey (+Def) : 63.31% - 74.51%
2 hits to KO (with Leftovers)
68 Atk Life Orb Rash Thundurus-T Superpower vs 252 HP/252 Def Eviolite Chansey (+Def) : 46.88% - 55.4%
2-3 hits to KO
I think that he has an opportunity
Truthfully there isn't much relation to the two; Mienshao is checked by mons such as Gengar, Gliscor/Landorus-t (depends if it has HP Ice), Latias, etc., and Gliscor does nothing to remove these threats. A better partner would probably be a strong pursuit user like Ttar or Scizor to trap and kill Ghost/Psychic types trying to kill Mienshao.
While I do have to admit you are right about Blissey, it is not even close with Chansey, you need to do at the least 58.4% damage to Chansey to get a 2HKO with superpower due to the attack drop with rocks included, note how that Blissey caps at 55.4%, it will literally never 2HKO without a crit.
If 64 attack isn't added, like other users suggested, then Blissey survives about 31% of the time after rocks, it will never 2HKO without rocks. 64 attack only 2HKOs 31% of the time without rocks aswell.
Well, there's uninvested Jirachi.
I mean who can Adamant Breloom outspeed and who can outspeed Breloom
Compared to what? Here is the speed tiers from Ferrothorn to Breloom found here for future reference, I bolded relevant pokemon:
237 Breloom
236 Scrafty
232 Magnezone
230 Heatran
229 Scizor
226 Xatu
223 Gorebyss, Huntail
216 Roserade*
206 Suicune, Toxicroak
199 Tangrowth
198 Gorebyss, Huntail
198 Gyarados, Milotic
198 Vaporeon
196 Venusaur*, Togekiss, Dragonite
190 Heatran
182 Skarmory, Breloom, Metagross, Hitmontop
178 Machamp
177 Vaporeon
176 Cloyster, Metagross, Hitmontop
168 Scizor
167 Jellicent
166 Scizor, Vaporeon
158 Tyranitar
156 Magnezone, Abomasnow, Empoleon
152 Scrafty
147 Tyranitar
146 Machamp, Blissey
136 Chansey, Azumarill, Donphan, Tangrowth
130 Hippowdon
126 Conkeldurr
116 Forretress
114 Gastrodon
106 Quagsire
102 Bronzong
96 Reuniclus, Slowbro, Snorlax
86 Dusclops
85 Conkeldurr (0 Spe IV)
76 Forretress (0 Spe IV)
76 Ferrothorn, Escavalier
65 Bronzong (2 Spe IV)
58 Reuniclus, Slowbro, Snorlax (0 Spe IV)
40 Ferrothorn, Escavalier (0 Spe IV)
236 Scrafty
232 Magnezone
230 Heatran
229 Scizor
226 Xatu
223 Gorebyss, Huntail
216 Roserade*
206 Suicune, Toxicroak
199 Tangrowth
198 Gorebyss, Huntail
198 Gyarados, Milotic
198 Vaporeon
196 Venusaur*, Togekiss, Dragonite
190 Heatran
182 Skarmory, Breloom, Metagross, Hitmontop
178 Machamp
177 Vaporeon
176 Cloyster, Metagross, Hitmontop
168 Scizor
167 Jellicent
166 Scizor, Vaporeon
158 Tyranitar
156 Magnezone, Abomasnow, Empoleon
152 Scrafty
147 Tyranitar
146 Machamp, Blissey
136 Chansey, Azumarill, Donphan, Tangrowth
130 Hippowdon
126 Conkeldurr
116 Forretress
114 Gastrodon
106 Quagsire
102 Bronzong
96 Reuniclus, Slowbro, Snorlax
86 Dusclops
85 Conkeldurr (0 Spe IV)
76 Forretress (0 Spe IV)
76 Ferrothorn, Escavalier
65 Bronzong (2 Spe IV)
58 Reuniclus, Slowbro, Snorlax (0 Spe IV)
40 Ferrothorn, Escavalier (0 Spe IV)
It outspeeds: Ferrothorn, Forretress, Gastrodon, Conkeldurr, Hippowdon, Chansey, Donphan, Blissey, bu-scarfty, not-scarf-tyranitar, unboosted-dd-scrafty, non-scarf-magnezone, all scizors outside of offensive swords dance, non-offensive abomsnow, jellicent, metagross, skarmory, sup-punch-breloom, defensive Heatran, and 'defensive toxicroak'.
We have already been through that so I may sum up the most interesting facts, even when nobody has asked for:
What exactly is "notable to outspeed" for Breloom? Obviously everything you would not want to hit with Mach Punch. Those are Gastrodon, Conkeldurr, and Hippodown.
Scizor is an exception because it has a priority move for itself. Adamant Breelom only needs enough speed to outrun offensive SD Scizor (216 speed EV). The remeining 40 points are far from waste, though. If put into Def, they allow you to survive Mamoswine's Ice Shard. If SR are up, they reduce the probability of being OHKOed from 50% to 25%. Very useful, especially for those who run Fist Plates.
And do not bother trying to outrun uninvested Jirachi. According to the stats, the majority of Jirachis actually run enough to outspeed you, even the defensive ones.
Edit: Forgot defensive Politoed, Varporeon, Jellicent and defensive Xatu. Now it's better
What exactly is "notable to outspeed" for Breloom? Obviously everything you would not want to hit with Mach Punch. Those are Gastrodon, Conkeldurr, and Hippodown.
Scizor is an exception because it has a priority move for itself. Adamant Breelom only needs enough speed to outrun offensive SD Scizor (216 speed EV). The remeining 40 points are far from waste, though. If put into Def, they allow you to survive Mamoswine's Ice Shard. If SR are up, they reduce the probability of being OHKOed from 50% to 25%. Very useful, especially for those who run Fist Plates.
And do not bother trying to outrun uninvested Jirachi. According to the stats, the majority of Jirachis actually run enough to outspeed you, even the defensive ones.
Edit: Forgot defensive Politoed, Varporeon, Jellicent and defensive Xatu. Now it's better
Does anyone know how I can use my own animation pictures?
What things outspeeds Heatran with a Modest nature with 252 AND 200 (I'd like both answers please) speed EVs, as opposed to max Speed Heatran (252 EVs and Timid)?
From the Speed Tiers article.
Timid Heatran to max Modest Heatran
Max Modest Tran to 220 Modest
Timid Heatran to max Modest Heatran
278 Heatran
273 Smeargle
270 Ninetales
269 Toxicroak
268 Whimsicott
263 Ninetales
262 Politoed, Breloom +Spe
261 Gyarados
259 Venusaur*, Mamoswine, Dragonite
256 Latias*
253 Heatran
273 Smeargle
270 Ninetales
269 Toxicroak
268 Whimsicott
263 Ninetales
262 Politoed, Breloom +Spe
261 Gyarados
259 Venusaur*, Mamoswine, Dragonite
256 Latias*
253 Heatran
Max Modest Tran to 220 Modest
251 Scizor +Spe
250 Cloyster, Metagross+Spe
249 Togekiss, Dragonite
247 Kingdra
245 Togekiss, Dragonite
245 Heatran
250 Cloyster, Metagross+Spe
249 Togekiss, Dragonite
247 Kingdra
245 Togekiss, Dragonite
245 Heatran
http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/ouspeed_tiers
Gap between 252+ and 252 Heatran
Gap between 252+ and 252 Heatran
Gap between 252 Neutral and 200 Neutral Heatran
Hey I have played almost 70 battles on PS and my rating never seems to get much over 1800, and the points I gain are not enough to cover the points I lose, should I just start a new alt?
LilOu
PO poopyhead
It must be because the opponents you find are low rated. Imagine that you have 1700 and you face a 1150s. You will gain +1 if you win and -50 or more if you lose...Just try to win every battle and good luck!
yeah but i don't know how to post the animation ones on there
Is it a .gif? Then it should work just like any other image.
LilOu
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You can try this site: http://imgur.com/
Click the "Computer" button near to the Upload text on the right side.
My bad. I should have phased it better. I need to know how to get the animation picture on my pc.
It also has to do with the decay factor (which someone told me is getting taken out, not sure on that though).
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