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Simple Questions & Simple Answers & General Resources (OU Edition) MK II

Discussion in 'BW OU' started by Matthew, Nov 4, 2012.

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  1. Shokwav

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    Actually, I wonder if he couldn't just use Modest? Are there any important (relevent) kills he misses out on with Rash?
  2. Vemane

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    Considering he is using superpower, using modest would be a very bad idea, as it will have trouble breaking blissey and friends as is
  3. LilOuOn

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    He means modest :]
  4. Princess Bubblegum

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    I hate to say this, because its a terrible Blissey ev spread, but the most common bold 252 / 252 Blissey is never 2HKOed by life orb superpower from Thundurus-T and neither is Chansey.
  5. LilOuOn

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    Here some calcs

    68 Atk Life Orb Rash Thundurus-T Superpower vs 252 HP/252 Def Blissey (+Def) : 63.31% - 74.51%
    2 hits to KO (with Leftovers)

    68 Atk Life Orb Rash Thundurus-T Superpower vs 252 HP/252 Def Eviolite Chansey (+Def) : 46.88% - 55.4%
    2-3 hits to KO

    I think that he has an opportunity
  6. lntegra

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    how well does gliscor synch with Mienshao if I was looking for a lot of dmg output with both?
  7. Shokwav

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    Truthfully there isn't much relation to the two; Mienshao is checked by mons such as Gengar, Gliscor/Landorus-t (depends if it has HP Ice), Latias, etc., and Gliscor does nothing to remove these threats. A better partner would probably be a strong pursuit user like Ttar or Scizor to trap and kill Ghost/Psychic types trying to kill Mienshao.
  8. Princess Bubblegum

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    While I do have to admit you are right about Blissey, it is not even close with Chansey, you need to do at the least 58.4% damage to Chansey to get a 2HKO with superpower due to the attack drop with rocks included, note how that Blissey caps at 55.4%, it will literally never 2HKO without a crit.

    If 64 attack isn't added, like other users suggested, then Blissey survives about 31% of the time after rocks, it will never 2HKO without rocks. 64 attack only 2HKOs 31% of the time without rocks aswell.
  9. Sciztar

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    What notable Pokemon does the Adamant Breloom (252 Speed) outspeed?
  10. Shokwav

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    Well, there's uninvested Jirachi.
  11. Sciztar

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    I mean who can Adamant Breloom outspeed and who can outspeed Breloom
  12. Princess Bubblegum

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    Compared to what? Here is the speed tiers from Ferrothorn to Breloom found here for future reference, I bolded relevant pokemon:

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    237 Breloom
    236 Scrafty
    232 Magnezone
    230 Heatran
    229 Scizor
    226 Xatu
    223 Gorebyss, Huntail
    216 Roserade*
    206 Suicune, Toxicroak
    199 Tangrowth
    198 Gorebyss, Huntail
    198 Gyarados, Milotic
    198 Vaporeon
    196 Venusaur*, Togekiss, Dragonite
    190 Heatran
    182 Skarmory, Breloom, Metagross, Hitmontop
    178 Machamp
    177 Vaporeon
    176 Cloyster, Metagross, Hitmontop
    168 Scizor
    167 Jellicent
    166 Scizor, Vaporeon
    158 Tyranitar
    156 Magnezone, Abomasnow, Empoleon
    152 Scrafty
    147 Tyranitar
    146 Machamp, Blissey
    136 Chansey, Azumarill, Donphan, Tangrowth
    130 Hippowdon
    126 Conkeldurr
    116 Forretress
    114 Gastrodon
    106 Quagsire
    102 Bronzong
    96 Reuniclus, Slowbro, Snorlax
    86 Dusclops
    85 Conkeldurr (0 Spe IV)
    76 Forretress (0 Spe IV)
    76 Ferrothorn, Escavalier
    65 Bronzong (2 Spe IV)
    58 Reuniclus, Slowbro, Snorlax (0 Spe IV)
    40 Ferrothorn, Escavalier (0 Spe IV)


    It outspeeds: Ferrothorn, Forretress, Gastrodon, Conkeldurr, Hippowdon, Chansey, Donphan, Blissey, bu-scarfty, not-scarf-tyranitar, unboosted-dd-scrafty, non-scarf-magnezone, all scizors outside of offensive swords dance, non-offensive abomsnow, jellicent, metagross, skarmory, sup-punch-breloom, defensive Heatran, and 'defensive toxicroak'.
  13. Onicon

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    We have already been through that so I may sum up the most interesting facts, even when nobody has asked for:

    What exactly is "notable to outspeed" for Breloom? Obviously everything you would not want to hit with Mach Punch. Those are Gastrodon, Conkeldurr, and Hippodown.
    Scizor is an exception because it has a priority move for itself. Adamant Breelom only needs enough speed to outrun offensive SD Scizor (216 speed EV). The remeining 40 points are far from waste, though. If put into Def, they allow you to survive Mamoswine's Ice Shard. If SR are up, they reduce the probability of being OHKOed from 50% to 25%. Very useful, especially for those who run Fist Plates.
    And do not bother trying to outrun uninvested Jirachi. According to the stats, the majority of Jirachis actually run enough to outspeed you, even the defensive ones.

    Edit: Forgot defensive Politoed, Varporeon, Jellicent and defensive Xatu. Now it's better
  14. TheSuperSaiyanBreloom

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    Does anyone know how I can use my own animation pictures?
  15. Shurtugal

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    You have to post them on an online image host (like photobucket) in order to use images you own on your computer (since you can't upload from computer on smogon posts). #google :]
  16. Arceus Nui

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    What things outspeeds Heatran with a Modest nature with 252 AND 200 (I'd like both answers please) speed EVs, as opposed to max Speed Heatran (252 EVs and Timid)?
  17. DrunkDemon

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    From the Speed Tiers article.

    Timid Heatran to max Modest Heatran
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    278 Heatran
    273 Smeargle
    270 Ninetales
    269 Toxicroak
    268 Whimsicott
    263 Ninetales
    262 Politoed, Breloom +Spe
    261 Gyarados
    259 Venusaur*, Mamoswine, Dragonite
    256 Latias*
    253 Heatran


    Max Modest Tran to 220 Modest
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    251 Scizor +Spe
    250 Cloyster, Metagross+Spe
    249 Togekiss, Dragonite
    247 Kingdra
    245 Togekiss, Dragonite
    245 Heatran
  18. ClubbingSealCub

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    http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/ouspeed_tiers

    Gap between 252+ and 252 Heatran
    Gap between 252 Neutral and 200 Neutral Heatran
  19. Princess Bubblegum

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    Hey I have played almost 70 battles on PS and my rating never seems to get much over 1800, and the points I gain are not enough to cover the points I lose, should I just start a new alt?
  20. LilOuOn

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    It must be because the opponents you find are low rated. Imagine that you have 1700 and you face a 1150s. You will gain +1 if you win and -50 or more if you lose...Just try to win every battle and good luck!
  21. TheSuperSaiyanBreloom

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    yeah but i don't know how to post the animation ones on there
  22. voodoo pimp

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    Is it a .gif? Then it should work just like any other image.
  23. LilOuOn

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    You can try this site: http://imgur.com/
    Click the "Computer" button near to the Upload text on the right side.
  24. TheSuperSaiyanBreloom

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    My bad. I should have phased it better. I need to know how to get the animation picture on my pc.
  25. Shokwav

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    It also has to do with the decay factor (which someone told me is getting taken out, not sure on that though).
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