Ok first things, first I'm going to paste in the moveset statistics for Swirlix and Gligar because I feel that they will lead to some more sound factual discussion
While I was pasting this in every single argument I wanted to make has already been made and then some...:/.
Well I still have some bulletpoints about their stats that I feel are interesting
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| Gligar |
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| Raw count: 35979 |
| Avg. weight: 0.807103955754 |
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| Abilities |
| Hyper Cutter 63.918% |
| Immunity 32.499% |
| Sand Veil 3.583% |
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| Items |
| Berry Juice 58.866% |
| Eviolite 34.357% |
| Nothing 2.638% |
| Other 4.139% |
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| Spreads |
| Jolly:0/236/0/0/0/236 36.619% |
| Impish:0/36/236/0/236/0 10.626% |
| Adamant:0/236/0/0/236/0 6.945% |
| Jolly:36/236/0/0/0/236 3.568% |
| Jolly:0/252/0/0/0/252 3.299% |
| Jolly:0/236/0/0/36/236 2.323% |
| Other 36.619% |
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| Moves |
| Earthquake 96.692% |
| Acrobatics 66.271% |
| Swords Dance 39.590% |
| Knock Off 35.557% |
| Roost 33.465% |
| Stealth Rock 26.760% |
| U-turn 22.688% |
| Defog 21.001% |
| Substitute 17.993% |
| Taunt 7.024% |
| Toxic 6.855% |
| Stone Edge 4.926% |
| Aqua Tail 4.164% |
| Other 17.014% |
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| Teammates |
| Meditite +10.484% |
| Pawniard +8.911% |
| Swirlix +5.717% |
| Slowpoke +4.040% |
| Carvanha +3.169% |
| Chinchou +2.022% |
| Larvesta +1.827% |
| Spritzee +1.691% |
| Tirtouga +1.094% |
| Munchlax +0.929% |
| Magnemite +0.639% |
| Foongus +0.368% |
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| Checks and Counters |
| Shellder 79.264 (86.59±1.83) |
| (44.6% KOed / 42.0% switched out)|
| Staryu 73.671 (80.62±1.74) |
| (31.9% KOed / 48.7% switched out)|
| Wailmer 73.246 (84.41±2.79) |
| (36.4% KOed / 48.0% switched out)|
| Carvanha 72.268 (79.40±1.78) |
| (36.2% KOed / 43.2% switched out)|
| Tirtouga 71.376 (76.80±1.36) |
| (44.9% KOed / 31.9% switched out)|
| Porygon 71.316 (76.74±1.36) |
| (34.7% KOed / 42.1% switched out)|
| Corphish 69.565 (78.83±2.32) |
| (37.2% KOed / 41.6% switched out)|
| Elekid 69.300 (76.31±1.75) |
| (39.4% KOed / 36.9% switched out)|
| Clamperl 66.061 (77.47±2.85) |
| (42.0% KOed / 35.5% switched out)|
| Slowpoke 64.657 (69.42±1.19) |
| (19.7% KOed / 49.7% switched out)|
| Snover 64.505 (74.85±2.59) |
| (33.1% KOed / 41.8% switched out)|
| Froakie 64.149 (73.43±2.32) |
| (24.4% KOed / 49.1% switched out)|
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| Swirlix |
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| Raw count: 21874 |
| Avg. weight: 0.758544724662 |
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| Abilities |
| Unburden 96.438% |
| Sweet Veil 3.562% |
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| Items |
| Berry Juice 94.620% |
| Eviolite 1.852% |
| Other 3.528% |
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| Spreads |
| Modest:0/0/0/204/100/204 13.149% |
| Adamant:0/212/0/0/92/204 12.720% |
| Modest:20/0/68/204/0/204 7.123% |
| Adamant:0/212/68/0/0/204 4.727% |
| Naughty:0/212/0/92/0/204 3.408% |
| Adamant:4/252/0/0/0/252 2.782% |
| Other 56.091% |
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| Moves |
| Belly Drum 52.114% |
| Play Rough 51.596% |
| Calm Mind 44.949% |
| Flamethrower 44.737% |
| Return 42.429% |
| Dazzling Gleam 26.765% |
| Cotton Guard 23.928% |
| Draining Kiss 23.580% |
| Thief 20.089% |
| Surf 17.797% |
| Protect 8.567% |
| Aromatherapy 6.744% |
| Thunderbolt 6.526% |
| Substitute 5.900% |
| Psychic 5.119% |
| Other 19.161% |
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| Teammates |
| Gligar +9.498% |
| Meditite +6.841% |
| Carvanha +4.075% |
| Tirtouga +3.686% |
| Pawniard +3.478% |
| Wynaut +1.283% |
| Magby +1.241% |
| Zigzagoon +1.099% |
| Misdreavus +0.952% |
| Dwebble +0.926% |
| Surskit +0.318% |
| Totodile +0.242% |
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| Checks and Counters |
| Magnemite 63.443 (71.05±1.90) |
| (57.1% KOed / 13.9% switched out)|
| Grimer 58.963 (76.31±4.34) |
| (51.4% KOed / 25.0% switched out)|
| Zigzagoon 53.274 (75.81±5.63) |
| (69.5% KOed / 6.3% switched out) |
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While I was pasting this in every single argument I wanted to make has already been made and then some...:/.
Well I still have some bulletpoints about their stats that I feel are interesting
- Holy crap look at checks and counters for swirlix.... there are only three XD.
- Swirlix has 10 moves all above 15% usage (confirming unpredictability)
- Assuming Berry Juice Gligar are more offensive variants and Eviolite are more utility Gligar. Gligar is offensive 60% of the time and utility 40% (again statistically confirming unpredictability).
While I undestand the potential theoretical fear of baton pass gligar, in reality baton pass isn't even used enough to make it into his stats. As this is a discussion of Gligar as a whole the very, very small % of variants that runs Baton Pass shouldn't really be considered unless its above about 10% usage. Same with Rock Polish/Agility variants.Baton Pass: The biggest argument in Gligar's favor, in my opinion, is Baton Pass. Ok, you are sick of Gligar running rampant and you brought Shellos. You then throw your Ice Beam at it, only to be met with a +2 Pawniard or Scraggy. Good bye Shellos, and most importantly, good bye the rest of your team. If you guess wrong with a Baton Pass Gligar, you lose.
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