I wanted to do something about Xatu and dropping it to C-tier, but I ended up forgetting, sorry. You're right, they do completely different things, but my intent was to show that Xatu was just a better Pokemon overall. But as time goes on and Sun ends becoming less relevant, I think I should just go ahead and drop it into C-tier. Thoughts?
That sounds fine. I would prefer moving Espeon up to B-rank and leaving Xatu where it is, though. Xatu is great at blocking Deoxys-D, Forretress, Ferrothorn, and Breloom, while Espeon can set up fast screens and single-handedly makes BP teams viable (I've actually peaked on the ladder and qualified for suspects with full BP...it's not a gimmick).
Those two roles of Espeon are a pretty big deal. What I can glean from what you said is:
I disagree; I've actually built many full BP teams that all function differently from each other. My best team is slow and bulky, and uses mixed defensive Zapdos and specially defensive Venomoth as speed boosters. If I manage to get in a couple of defensive boosts, the team becomes incredibly hard to break, unless my opponent crits.
Hyper offense. Setting up fast screens while blocking hazards is something nothing else is able to do, and it lets DD Nite come in with its Multiscale intact. Admittedly, HO isn't my thing, but I've faced some that use Espeon as the DS lead, and they are nasty.
I agree with waddle, a majority of his checks/counters are trapped and KOed by tyrannitar, or with rain, its sub calm mind set can muscle through them, bar jellicent, however it can sweep without rain. Overall its as threatening if not more then terrakion as it can surpass terrakions power with rain support, while requiring little support from the rest of the team
I have a problem with this statement. Not saying Keldeo isn't insanely powerful, but Terrakion has access to Rock Polish and Swords Dance--the same boosting moves that let Groudon 6-0 Ubers teams. It also has access to the SubSalac + Swords Dance combo. Its only real weakness is that it can't get passed priority (Babiri/Chople SD is a good set though).
While keldeo does lack rock polish/swords dance like terra, it also lacks weakness to priority moves, taking neutral from mach punch and resisting bullet punch and ice shard. This may eb a weak point, but keldeos access to secret sword i think is critical to its success, as otherwise blissey would wall it and it would have to depend on focus blast. Also keldeo can run a salac berry like terrakion effectively.
No worries, Landorus has been in S-tier for almost a full day now.
Tiny nitpick but do you mean s tier?
True, however if you look real closely, you'll notice that the Dragons all get boned by Ice moves with reasonable power, and Gyarados is walled by Rotom-W. Sure, it takes a little teamwork to get it done but you could say the same for Terrakion (who I will say is definitely harder to wall but has its limits) however it's an excellent sweeper outside of SubCM, I just listed that one because without one of the aforementioned Pokemon it's extremely hard to get around.
I do get what your saying but i want to say this, can terrakion sweep a team from turn 1? Landorus therian, and gliscor both wall terrakion, offensive pivot landorus is a 2-3hko with stone edge at +1 iirc, so you need something to KO them, its the same for keldeo. Like how terrakions counters are mostly handled by one pokemon, generally a water, a majority of keldeo`s are handled by tyrannitar, or scizor. Even tho keldeo needs 1-2 pokemon to successfully sweep, so doesnt terrakion. Yes keldeos stabs are resisted by more common threats, but keldeo also gets a boost from rain helping it muscle through threats like salamence. Keldeo has arguably superior typing as he cant be revenged by common priorities like terrakion, while his weaknesses are a little less common then terrakions, which gives him a bit more staying power.
Ditto is not exactly a real threat in the meta-game. Well, not "real threat", "non existent threat" would be the exact term I would use. It's highly underrated, but it's usage is far too low to be worrisome, especially when you consider that most Pokemon have trouble with Ditto. Honestly that's like me saying that Tangrowth causes problems for physical attackers. Like, no shit, but it's not a real impending threat on the current metagame due to low usage.
You forgot Keldeo's best counter in OU, SpD Celebi, a top tier Pokemon that cannot be even Pursuit trapped if running Baton Pass, which is a hard counter to any Keldeo set. You also have RestTalk Gyarados and CM Latias who are superb checks and stop it most of the time.
