Pokemon Showdown (original announcement)

***Zarel**** · Oct 7th, 2011, 12:00:39 PM

POKEMON SHOWDOWN IS NOW AVAILABLE: -> pokemonshowdown.com <-

Hey, guys.

I guess many of you have heard about a sim I've been working on for the past month or so. Some of you might have seen some other guy in DST trying to take credit for it, which was hilarious.

Anyway, I'm just so excited about PS that I can't really wait any longer making this post.

Here are some screenshots:

This is PS on a laptop (click for bigger version). If you look closely, you can see hints of certain features like rejoining after a disconnection, and CAP support. ;)

This is the teambuilder. You'll notice you can search for Pokemon by name, type, or ability.

Here's a bit more of the teambuilder. You'll notice it lists illegal moves. You can still select them for things such as streetmons, but they'll of course get removed in OU matches.

And here's PS on an Android phone. PS supports most smartphones and tablets, and I even have music working on iPhone!

Pokemon Showdown is currently in private beta, but I'll try to push out a public beta by sometime next week. :) Are you guys as excited as I am? :D

For those who are curious, why Showdown and not Pokemon Online?

Here are what I already have over PO:

Animations: You've seen my replay viewer. Those are the animations in PS. Enough said.
Reconnect: If you get disconnected from battle, PS allows you to reconnect easily.
Adaptive UI: Resize the window to be as big or as small as you want, and the UI will adjust itself to fit it.
Truly cross-platform: In addition to Windows, Mac OS X, and Android, PS also supports Linux, iOS, and pretty much any other platform you can think of. Its mobile client is the real thing, too - not watered-down like PO's Android client.
Better teambuilder: PS's teambuilder is designed to make teambuilding as fast as possible, whether you prefer keyboard or mouse. The screenshots should show how it does what it does.
Easy moddability: PS's mod format makes it easy to implement your own moves, abilities, items, and pokemon. CAP and streetmons are already implemented.
Better UI: PS won't close the battle window just because another player closed it. Spectating a battle gives you the full log, not just from the point you started watching. Its team chooser is built into the challenge window. Its teambuilder is sized so you can chat in the lobby and build a team at the same time. Its move description tooltips stay out of the way of the move buttons.
Accuracy: PS is designed from the ground up to have an event model and graphics system as close to the games as possible. Examples of things PS gets right that PO doesn't include: Zoroark's Illusion ability, gen 5 Custap Berry effect.

I might be forgetting a few things, and I have a lot more improvements planned, but these are the ones I thought of that I have done so far.

Again, that URL is: -> pokemonshowdown.com <-

***Antar**** · Oct 7th, 2011, 12:31:36 PM

This looks seriously awesome. I cannot wait for it to be up and running.

Lady Salamence · Oct 7th, 2011, 12:41:35 PM

can't wait for the release!

Erebyssial · Oct 7th, 2011, 1:16:16 PM

Woah you work fast, grats on another awesome looking project. I guess the question lots of people will be wondering is, what features will this have that make it stand out from PO?

Lady Salamence · Oct 7th, 2011, 1:22:49 PM

animations

***Zarel**** · Oct 7th, 2011, 2:21:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Erebyssial

Woah you work fast, grats on another awesome looking project. I guess the question lots of people will be wondering is, what features will this have that make it stand out from PO?

Here's a partial list: (which I've also appended to the first post)

Animations: You've seen my replay viewer. Those are the animations in PS. Enough said.
Reconnect: If you get disconnected from battle, PS allows you to reconnect easily.
Adaptive UI: Resize the window to be as big or as small as you want, and the UI will adjust itself to fit it.
Truly cross-platform: In addition to Windows, Mac OS X, and Android, PS also supports Linux, iOS, and pretty much any other platform you can think of. Its mobile client is the real thing, too - not watered-down like PO's Android client.
Better teambuilder: PS's teambuilder is designed to make teambuilding as fast as possible, whether you prefer keyboard or mouse. The screenshots should show how it does what it does.
Easy moddability: PS's mod format makes it easy to implement your own moves, abilities, items, and pokemon. CAP and streetmons are already implemented.
Better UI: PS won't close the battle window just because another player closed it. Spectating a battle gives you the full log, not just from the point you started watching. Its team chooser is built into the challenge window. Its teambuilder is sized so you can chat in the lobby and build a team at the same time. Its move description tooltips stay out of the way of the move buttons.
Accuracy: PS is designed from the ground up to have an event model and graphics system as close to the games as possible. Examples of things PS gets right that PO doesn't include: Zoroark's Illusion ability, gen 5 Custap Berry effect.

I might be forgetting a few things, and I have a lot more improvements planned, but these are the ones I thought of that I have done so far.

Ojama · Oct 7th, 2011, 3:22:52 PM

CAN'T WAIT

**Jirachi** · Oct 7th, 2011, 3:25:57 PM

I seriously cannot wait. This looks awesome.

Agammemnon · Oct 7th, 2011, 3:26:21 PM

Can we have a baby, please ?

Go10 · Oct 7th, 2011, 3:29:12 PM

I really cant wait ! Hoping for a better RNG than PO too !

Gabranth · Oct 7th, 2011, 3:29:49 PM

Omg dude I love you...

No more PO :') This piece of crap is the worst thing that has ever happenned to pokemon and Smogon

**McMeghan** · Oct 7th, 2011, 3:30:39 PM

Seems really great. The french community find this as good as when they had their revolution.

Fizz · Oct 7th, 2011, 3:39:45 PM

Damn. I was skeptical but it looks like this thing significantly improves upon PO.

Professor Lamb · Oct 7th, 2011, 3:41:15 PM

Incredible. I absolutely cannot wait for the public beta to be released. Excellent work!

Younii · Oct 7th, 2011, 3:45:26 PM

Thx man^^

Can't wait to throw PO and his lolRNG in the bin^^

Gabranth · Oct 7th, 2011, 3:47:30 PM

Same here, can't wait to get rid of this trash

**Pocket** · Oct 7th, 2011, 4:00:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat aesoft

Here's a partial list: (which I've also appended to the first post)

Animations: You've seen my replay viewer. Those are the animations in PS. Enough said.
Reconnect: If you get disconnected from battle, PS allows you to reconnect easily.
Adaptive UI: Resize the window to be as big or as small as you want, and the UI will adjust itself to fit it.
Truly cross-platform: In addition to Windows, Mac OS X, and Android, PS also supports Linux, iOS, and pretty much any other platform you can think of. Its mobile client is the real thing, too - not watered-down like PO's Android client.
Better teambuilder: PS's teambuilder is designed to make teambuilding as fast as possible, whether you prefer keyboard or mouse. The screenshots should show how it does what it does.
Easy moddability: PS's mod format makes it easy to implement your own moves, abilities, items, and pokemon. CAP and streetmons are already implemented.
Better UI: PS won't close the battle window just because another player closed it. Spectating a battle gives you the full log, not just from the point you started watching. Its team chooser is built into the challenge window. Its teambuilder is sized so you can chat in the lobby and build a team at the same time. Its move description tooltips stay out of the way of the move buttons.
Accuracy: PS is designed from the ground up to have an event model and graphics system as close to the games as possible. Examples of things PS gets right that PO doesn't include: Zoroark's Illusion ability, gen 5 Custap Berry effect.

I might be forgetting a few things, and I have a lot more improvements planned, but these are the ones I thought of that I have done so far.

Wow, so much better than PO! Fucking excited for this!

How easy is it to implement the past gen data? DPP + Advance are particularly of interest due to Smogon Tours. Does PS also accommodate for doubles, like the PO?

Pwnemon · Oct 7th, 2011, 4:05:25 PM

I

I want to bear your children

***RBG**** · Oct 7th, 2011, 4:06:10 PM

Hey, can we not just insult PO for no reason? It uses a RNG that isn't glitched or broken, and if it had, it would have been found by now. Not to mention they gave us a 5th generation simulator only a few days after Gen V was out in Japan. Way to be inconsiderate people.

That being said, this looks awesome aesoft, I can't wait till the public beta!

**NixHex** · Oct 7th, 2011, 4:10:04 PM

Just wait til you play it 0_0

Eggbert · Oct 7th, 2011, 4:17:24 PM

Ok this is good, really good. My connection sucks and I often disconnect, and animations will make battling just as visually appealing as battling on wifi without the whole wifi thing. Excellent job man.

***Zarel**** · Oct 7th, 2011, 4:30:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Go10

I really cant wait ! Hoping for a better RNG than PO too !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Nelson-X

Thx man^^

Can't wait to throw PO and his lolRNG in the bin^^

As far as I can tell, there's nothing wrong with PO's RNG.

RNGs always "feel" unfair because of mental effects: you remember the 15% of the time Fire Blast misses, not the 85% of the times it hits.

Switching to another RNG doesn't change how random numbers work, so I don't think you'll notice a difference. :/

RBG makes a good point, as well: PO might not be as good as PS (and I say this in a I-made-PS-so-I-might-be-biased way), but aside from a few quirks, it's really nice for what it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Pocket

How easy is it to implement the past gen data? DPP + Advance are particularly of interest due to Smogon Tours. Does PS also accommodate for doubles, like the PO?

Past gens are fairly simple to implement, although PS doesn't allow switching between gens yet, I should be able to implement them without much difficulty. Doubles is more in-depth: They will eventually happen, but not before the beta, and not before I redo the protocol first.

**Raseri** · Oct 7th, 2011, 4:31:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat RBG

Hey, can we not just insult PO for no reason? It uses a RNG that isn't glitched or broken, and if it had, it would have been found by now. Not to mention they gave us a 5th generation simulator only a few days after Gen V was out in Japan. Way to be inconsiderate people.

That being said, this looks awesome aesoft, I can't wait till the public beta!

this, PO's RNG is fine. Anyways aesoft this looks amazing and i can't wait until the public beta

HoiPolloi · Oct 7th, 2011, 6:25:31 PM

This is going to be legen- wait for it -dary. Legendary!

SgtWoodsy · Oct 7th, 2011, 8:09:27 PM

All Barney quotes aside this looks fantastic. Good job.

Oct 7th, 2011, 12:00:39 PM	#1
*Zarel >> BEGIN POSTBIT Super Moderator** Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,129 >> END POSTBIT	Pokemon Showdown (original announcement) POKEMON SHOWDOWN IS NOW AVAILABLE: -> pokemonshowdown.com <- Hey, guys. I guess many of you have heard about a sim I've been working on for the past month or so. Some of you might have seen some other guy in DST trying to take credit for it, which was hilarious. Anyway, I'm just so excited about PS that I can't really wait any longer making this post. Here are some screenshots: This is PS on a laptop (click for bigger version). If you look closely, you can see hints of certain features like rejoining after a disconnection, and CAP support. ;) This is the teambuilder. You'll notice you can search for Pokemon by name, type, or ability. Here's a bit more of the teambuilder. You'll notice it lists illegal moves. You can still select them for things such as streetmons, but they'll of course get removed in OU matches. And here's PS on an Android phone. PS supports most smartphones and tablets, and I even have music working on iPhone! Pokemon Showdown is currently in private beta, but I'll try to push out a public beta by sometime next week. :) Are you guys as excited as I am? :D For those who are curious, why Showdown and not Pokemon Online? Here are what I already have over PO: Animations: You've seen my replay viewer. Those are the animations in PS. Enough said. Reconnect: If you get disconnected from battle, PS allows you to reconnect easily. Adaptive UI: Resize the window to be as big or as small as you want, and the UI will adjust itself to fit it. Truly cross-platform: In addition to Windows, Mac OS X, and Android, PS also supports Linux, iOS, and pretty much any other platform you can think of. Its mobile client is the real thing, too - not watered-down like PO's Android client. Better teambuilder: PS's teambuilder is designed to make teambuilding as fast as possible, whether you prefer keyboard or mouse. The screenshots should show how it does what it does. Easy moddability: PS's mod format makes it easy to implement your own moves, abilities, items, and pokemon. CAP and streetmons are already implemented. Better UI: PS won't close the battle window just because another player closed it. Spectating a battle gives you the full log, not just from the point you started watching. Its team chooser is built into the challenge window. Its teambuilder is sized so you can chat in the lobby and build a team at the same time. Its move description tooltips stay out of the way of the move buttons. Accuracy: PS is designed from the ground up to have an event model and graphics system as close to the games as possible. Examples of things PS gets right that PO doesn't include: Zoroark's Illusion ability, gen 5 Custap Berry effect. I might be forgetting a few things, and I have a lot more improvements planned, but these are the ones I thought of that I have done so far. Again, that URL is: -> pokemonshowdown.com <- __________________ Pokemon Showdown \| Replay player \| No, I am not impressed that you know that my name is Guangcong Luo. The PS website says "Copyright Guangcong Luo" at the bottom, ffs. Last edited by Zarel; Jun 26th, 2012 at 2:01:46 PM.

Oct 7th, 2011, 12:31:36 PM	#2
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Oct 7th, 2011, 12:41:35 PM	#3
Lady Salamence radda radda Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,281 ROFL ROFL ROFL	can't wait for the release! Last edited by Lady Salamence; Oct 7th, 2011 at 12:58:44 PM.

Oct 7th, 2011, 3:22:52 PM	#7
Ojama If just for one day I wish I could disappear Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,368 Too close to see	CAN'T WAIT __________________ Smell ya later

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Go10 Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 774	I really cant wait ! Hoping for a better RNG than PO too ! __________________ RMT BW1 Uber - Unlimited Victory Works RMT BW2 Uber - Dark War

Oct 7th, 2011, 1:16:16 PM	#4
Erebyssial Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 321	Woah you work fast, grats on another awesome looking project. I guess the question lots of people will be wondering is, what features will this have that make it stand out from PO?

Oct 7th, 2011, 1:22:49 PM	#5
Lady Salamence radda radda Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,281 ROFL ROFL ROFL	animations

Oct 7th, 2011, 3:25:57 PM	#8
Jirachi No excuses. Moderator Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 975 #27 Galchenyuk Mentor	I seriously cannot wait. This looks awesome.

Oct 7th, 2011, 3:26:21 PM	#9
Agammemnon A wild Zubat appears! Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,346	Can we have a baby, please ?

Oct 7th, 2011, 3:29:49 PM	#11
Gabranth Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 260 Georgia	Omg dude I love you... No more PO :') This piece of crap is the worst thing that has ever happenned to pokemon and Smogon __________________ Faithfully fulfill your role, even if mistaken. That is the definition of a professional. BW UU : Suicide Mission

Oct 7th, 2011, 3:30:39 PM	#12
McMeghan Dreamcatcher Moderator Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,195 Belgium Mentor	Seems really great. The french community find this as good as when they had their revolution.

Oct 7th, 2011, 3:39:45 PM	#13
Fizz Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 801	Damn. I was skeptical but it looks like this thing significantly improves upon PO. __________________ I'm on the Grammar-Prose Team; feel free to message me if you'd like to have something checked.

Oct 7th, 2011, 3:41:15 PM	#14
Professor Lamb Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 184 New York State	Incredible. I absolutely cannot wait for the public beta to be released. Excellent work! __________________ http://www.whoishussain.org/

Oct 7th, 2011, 3:45:26 PM	#15
Younii Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 296 Benelux	Thx man^^ Can't wait to throw PO and his lolRNG in the bin^^

Oct 7th, 2011, 3:47:30 PM	#16
Gabranth Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 260 Georgia	Same here, can't wait to get rid of this trash __________________ Faithfully fulfill your role, even if mistaken. That is the definition of a professional. BW UU : Suicide Mission

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Oct 7th, 2011, 4:06:10 PM	#19
*RBG It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. Super Moderator** Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,229 Home: Goshen Scout Reservation	Hey, can we not just insult PO for no reason? It uses a RNG that isn't glitched or broken, and if it had, it would have been found by now. Not to mention they gave us a 5th generation simulator only a few days after Gen V was out in Japan. Way to be inconsiderate people. That being said, this looks awesome aesoft, I can't wait till the public beta! __________________ Alder: N, even if we don't understand each other, that's not a reason to reject each other. There are two sides to an argument. Is there one point of view that has all the answers? Give it some thought.

Oct 7th, 2011, 4:17:24 PM	#21
Eggbert Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,072	Ok this is good, really good. My connection sucks and I often disconnect, and animations will make battling just as visually appealing as battling on wifi without the whole wifi thing. Excellent job man.

Oct 7th, 2011, 6:25:31 PM	#24
HoiPolloi Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 296	This is going to be legen- wait for it -dary. Legendary!

Oct 7th, 2011, 8:09:27 PM	#25
SgtWoodsy Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,127	All Barney quotes aside this looks fantastic. Good job.