Celebi (Baton Pass) [QC 3/3]

**Pocket** · Sep 26th, 2012, 3:52:27 AM

Writing this up separately from yee's Celebi revamp

[SET]
name: Baton Pass
move 1: Baton Pass
move 2: Calm Mind / Nasty Plot
move 3: Giga Drain
move 4: Substitute / Hidden Power Fire
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Calm Mind > Nasty Plot, since it is much easier to pass CM boosts than NP boosts.
101 HP Sub makes Chansey / Blissey set-up fodder and protects the CM recipient on the turn of Baton Pass
Substitute also blocks Dragon Tail - Careful Dragonite's Dragon Tail does not break Celebi's Substitute. After 3 CMs, not even Rain Tank's Hurricane would break Celebi's Substitute most of the time.
Specially Defensive spread makes setting up CMs on special sweepers much easier.
HP Fire can be used over Substitute to take out Skarmory before it can phaze Celebi's special attack boosts.
Many Rain Pokemon are set-up fodder for Celebi

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
Thunder Wave gives it 25% fp chance of BP success against phazers, and it's a generally good utility move.
Earth Power to dispatch Heatran, which may phaze Celebi
84 SpA to OHKO specially defensive Heatran with a +2 Earth Power or a physically defensive Skarmory with a +2 HP Fire
72 Spe to beat Modest Heatran to the punch.
Swords Dance & Seed Bomb / Zen Headbutt to pass Atk boosts
Magic Coat / Espeon to cockblock phazers
Recover to keep it healthy
Rain support is nice to ensure Leftovers recovery and halving Fire moves. Obviously Celebi wouldn't use HP Fire in this case.
Special sweepers that benefits from a few SpA boosts, such as Thundurus-T, Keldeo, Starmie, Latios, Volcarona.
Wish Passer / Heal Wisher, such as Jirachi to keep Celebi healthy.
Teammates that can deal with Scizor, PSong Celebi, Volcarona, and Tornadus. Heatran is a good answer to many of them; Scizor can Pursuit-trap Celebi / Tornadus; Jirachi is the best answer to Tornadus; Gyarados checks Scizor & Volcarona.
NP + Tanga Berry

giggity69 · Sep 27th, 2012, 7:11:23 PM

Looks good for the most part.

I would slash swords dance in after NP since it is basically the same thing for a physical recipient. Also, if it is focusing primarily on calm mind passing, wouldn't a physically defensive spread work well?
Also note that scarf genesect IS definitely a problem, and CM will give it an attack boost to OHKO you with before you can baton pass out.

Terrakion is a cool partner to pass SD to because it resists fire, bug, and gets an attack boost from non pursuit dark moves.

**ginganinja** · Sep 27th, 2012, 7:46:31 PM

might be too gimmicky Pocket but in AC you could mention Tanga Berry which would let you survive a U-Turn from Choice Scarf Genesect (unless I fucked up my calcs which is entirely possible) and let you Baton Pass your boost to whatever they U-Turned into. (Or you can go for a second boost I guess if you predict them going to something that cannot KO you before you BP out). Might be better in OO tho, up to you.

(If I fucked up my calcs pls ignore what I just said xD)

Princess Bri · Feb 11th, 2013, 3:16:33 PM

hey pocket~~~~~

write this up or let someone else do it. this is like half a year old! :o

**AccidentalGreed** · Feb 11th, 2013, 4:55:20 PM

If you guys want QC input on it, SubBP Celebi is still good, and got a bit better with Tornadus-T banned. Just tried it out on a random BP team and it did pretty good, so this definitely can still be written up.

Shurtugal · Feb 11th, 2013, 5:13:36 PM

I would AC hitting 265 speed. NP passing to scarf Keldeo in rain......, <3

Sep 26th, 2012, 3:52:27 AM	#1
Pocket Bakuman ;< Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,170 Bergenfield	Celebi (Baton Pass) [QC 3/3] Writing this up separately from yee's Celebi revamp [SET] name: Baton Pass move 1: Baton Pass move 2: Calm Mind / Nasty Plot move 3: Giga Drain move 4: Substitute / Hidden Power Fire item: Leftovers nature: Calm evs: 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe [SET COMMENTS] Calm Mind > Nasty Plot, since it is much easier to pass CM boosts than NP boosts. 101 HP Sub makes Chansey / Blissey set-up fodder and protects the CM recipient on the turn of Baton Pass Substitute also blocks Dragon Tail - Careful Dragonite's Dragon Tail does not break Celebi's Substitute. After 3 CMs, not even Rain Tank's Hurricane would break Celebi's Substitute most of the time. Specially Defensive spread makes setting up CMs on special sweepers much easier. HP Fire can be used over Substitute to take out Skarmory before it can phaze Celebi's special attack boosts. Many Rain Pokemon are set-up fodder for Celebi [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] Thunder Wave gives it 25% fp chance of BP success against phazers, and it's a generally good utility move. Earth Power to dispatch Heatran, which may phaze Celebi 84 SpA to OHKO specially defensive Heatran with a +2 Earth Power or a physically defensive Skarmory with a +2 HP Fire 72 Spe to beat Modest Heatran to the punch. Swords Dance & Seed Bomb / Zen Headbutt to pass Atk boosts Magic Coat / Espeon to cockblock phazers Recover to keep it healthy Rain support is nice to ensure Leftovers recovery and halving Fire moves. Obviously Celebi wouldn't use HP Fire in this case. Special sweepers that benefits from a few SpA boosts, such as Thundurus-T, Keldeo, Starmie, Latios, Volcarona. Wish Passer / Heal Wisher, such as Jirachi to keep Celebi healthy. Teammates that can deal with Scizor, PSong Celebi, Volcarona, and Tornadus. Heatran is a good answer to many of them; Scizor can Pursuit-trap Celebi / Tornadus; Jirachi is the best answer to Tornadus; Gyarados checks Scizor & Volcarona. NP + Tanga Berry __________________ Dark Horse Project: Conquer the Ladder! \| Word of Wisdom for Trainers \| Smogon Doubles: Let's Make It Official! Last edited by Pocket; Oct 26th, 2012 at 11:29:05 PM.

Sep 27th, 2012, 7:11:23 PM	#2
giggity69 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 361 LA, with gangsters, dragons, and mad fat cactuses	Looks good for the most part. I would slash swords dance in after NP since it is basically the same thing for a physical recipient. Also, if it is focusing primarily on calm mind passing, wouldn't a physically defensive spread work well? Also note that scarf genesect IS definitely a problem, and CM will give it an attack boost to OHKO you with before you can baton pass out. Terrakion is a cool partner to pass SD to because it resists fire, bug, and gets an attack boost from non pursuit dark moves. __________________ Gengar has a pedismile, deal with it. Screw "___" All (Hella!) RMT

Sep 27th, 2012, 7:46:31 PM	#3
ginganinja Delena 4ever Moderator Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,087 In Love	might be too gimmicky Pocket but in AC you could mention Tanga Berry which would let you survive a U-Turn from Choice Scarf Genesect (unless I fucked up my calcs which is entirely possible) and let you Baton Pass your boost to whatever they U-Turned into. (Or you can go for a second boost I guess if you predict them going to something that cannot KO you before you BP out). Might be better in OO tho, up to you. (If I fucked up my calcs pls ignore what I just said xD) __________________

Feb 11th, 2013, 3:16:33 PM	#4
Princess Bri COME FORTH Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,066	hey pocket~~~~~ write this up or let someone else do it. this is like half a year old! :o __________________

Feb 11th, 2013, 4:55:20 PM	#5
AccidentalGreed I'll bite off your kneecaps if I ever see a super long post or wall of text. Seriously. Moderator Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,024 California	If you guys want QC input on it, SubBP Celebi is still good, and got a bit better with Tornadus-T banned. Just tried it out on a random BP team and it did pretty good, so this definitely can still be written up. __________________

Feb 11th, 2013, 5:13:36 PM	#6
Shurtugal Teach love to all the little birds! Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 819 Florida	I would AC hitting 265 speed. NP passing to scarf Keldeo in rain......, <3 __________________ If you want your team rated; feel free to PM or VM me for your own, personalized rate! If you want to learn how to battle and win; check out my guide! Feel free to check out my team in OU that peaked #1!