The Underdog
A mixed attacker that can OHKO or 2HKO common wallsOk, well this has been my latest Uber team, it usually wins most games due to the sets I run, but I think that it's mainly because of the novelty of the pokemon I use. I have been wanting to make a new team for quite some time, but everytime I sat down I would either get something similar to my Magic Mushroom team, or my Catch Me Now team. So I sat down and thought about my team building process, how I nomally make a team. With the building process in mind, I swayed into another train of thought, and I cam up with this team.
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My Thought Process
I usually think of Ubers in the most stupid way possible; what Uber counters this other Uber. I've started to break that trend with all of the other pokemon I have tested (and succeeded with) but I was still in that rut. So I started to think, if that's how I go through teams, I might as well use sets that are rarely seen any more. So I decided to get to work. I needed a pokemon, that is not Lugia, to counter Rayquaza and some Groudon. I know I wanted a defensive core that counters one anothers weaknesses. I knew that I would want a mixed attacker that would help clean up. I also wanted a wall breaker. Last but not least I wanted a non sucide Stealth Rock lead that could counter the other average leads.
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Check list
Well, Dialga does a great job, but I'm not certain that it would be the best idea. Mix Dialga isn't used any more for a reason, so maybe I could use Mix Rayquaza or Palkia. Rayquaza has a Stealth Rock weakness, but Palkia has a less ability.
An answer to Swords Dance Rayquaza or Dragon Dance Rayquaza
Lugia is the main answer I have usually, but I'm getting pretty sick of the ability to switch in and stat up in her face. Maybe using Palkia in some manner can stop Rayquaza as Palkia does outspeed a normal Rayquaza. Giratina can also stop Rayquaza with Will-o-Wisp, or it can hit with Dragon Claw or Dragon Pulse.
A non sucide Stealth Rock lead
The choice is between Ground and Dialga to be honest. Diagla can do everything Groudon can do. Groudon, on the other hand, at worst only has to deal with another Groudon lead, where Dialga has to deal with oher Dialga and Groudons.
A powerful wall breaker
Kyogre
A defensive combo
Forretress and Giratina is a great defensive combo, Forretress laying down spikes while Giratina can soak up the Fire attacks that are used against Forretress. Parasect and Tyranitar are a good combo together, resisting each others weaknesses.
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Overview of the team








Ability: Drought
EVs: 252 HP/156 Atk/32 Def/8 Spd/60 SDef
Adamant nature
- Thunder Wave
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
Groudon vs other leads:
Groudon is a fantastic anti lead. In the fact that I'm going to get rocks down, or paralyze a pokemon, no matter what. Against Darkrai I weigh the odds, do I go for the status or do I go for the rocks. 9/10 times I'm going to place rocks down against a Darkrai. Against a Mewtwo I'm going to status, a Scarf Mewtwo is going to hate having that status on him. Against Deoxys I status then kill with Earthquake, where against Dialga leads I normally just Earthquake (hoping for the OHKO). The only real problem is against other Groudon leads, I usually lose my groudon to Earthquakes, so maybe this would warent a different EV spread. Groudon benefits my team in a few ways, he changes the weather, making rain teams have a hard time. He lays down rocks, making my pokemon sweep easier, and he has the opportunity to KO a pokemon or two in the early stages of the game.
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Ability: Pressure
EVs: 100 Atk/252 Spd/156 SAtk
Hasty nature
- Thunder
- Spacial Rend
- Focus Punch
- Substitute
Palkia vs the world:
This is an odd Palkia set, but I've grown rather fond of it over the course of a week or so. This Palkia set is great. If I only status a pokemon with Groudon I can come in with Palkia and bluff my item. Expert Belt vs. Lustrous Orb was debatable. Lustrous Orb would boost my Spacial Rends power, but Expert Belt lets me hit most Ubers for extra damage. The real selling point of Expert Belt was that with it's boost and with Stealth Rocks in play, I have the ability to OHKO a Blissey with it. Who otherwise walls my Scarf Sweeper. Thunder is to hurt Kyogre (obviously) who is just as threatening as can be. Spacial Rend for all those scary Dragons. Focus Punch really only has one use, but it has helped me bring down a Dialga or two.
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Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 244 Spd/240 SAtk/24 SDef
Modest nature
- Water Spout
- Surf
- Thunder
- Ice Beam
Kyogre vs other wall breakers:
I was going to post something like "Ha, like there are better options" and move on. Then I decided that TAY would be very angry with me if I did that (maybe). Also I guess it is a fairly tasteless joke to tell the truth, I get some humor out of it. Any way Kyogre is the best wall breaker in the game. He can 2HKO anything he wants with Water Spout, and every team needs a way around him. He can handle that tiny Lugia problem I have, as well as come in on a Rock Polish Groudon, take a hit, then OHKO back with Surf. Something which my team needs. Thunder is for coverage, hits other Kyogre and Palkia, where Ice Beam will hit Rayquaza and Lati@s.
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Ability: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature
- Draco Meteor
- Aura Sphere
- Dragon Pulse
- Thunder
Dialga vs other sweepers:
I wanted to break out of the help of normalcy and this is where it led me. Scarf Dialga used to be huge (or from what I heard) and for good reason. This thing is a fantastic answer to Dragon Dance and Swords Dance Rayquaza. Rayquaza's Extreme Speed won't OHKO (unless I'm at extremely low percents) and I can easily OHKO back with Dragon Pulse. He doesn't outspeed the ever popular Choice Scarf Palkia, but he does outspeed everything else I'm worried about. Draco Meteor is for early game scouting, since Dialgas counter will still be intact. Aura Sphere is... to be honest I just copied and pasted from the analysis, I've never used Aura Sphere once, maybe it is to hit other Dialga? Or... that one Empoleon I ran into. I guess I could change Aura Sphere for Fire Blast, let me hit Scizors and Forretress hard. Dialga is my late game clean up. He does a damn good job of that to.
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Ability: Dry Skin
EVs: 248 HP/8 Atk/96 Def/156 SDef
Adamant nature
- Spore
- Stun Spore
- X-Scissor
- Light Screen
Parasect vs...
I don't know what Parasect is versus. Parasect is there to be the first part of my defensive combo. Parasect resists 3/4 of Kyogres attacks, and can spread the status around. Parasect can also take a Palkia's Spacial Rend, set up Light Screen then stall Palkia out. Parasect is weak to Fire, Ice, Rock and Psychic. Meaning that I'm going to need a pokemon that can take every single one of those hits and then can pressure back. Parasect has won me games (see warstory We are Uber Strong) and I'm positive does not need to be removed.
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Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP/80 SAtk/176 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Fire Blast
- Substitute
- Toxic
- Hidden Power [Grass]
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Heatran + Parasect:
Heatran is the last part of my defensive structure, and for good reason. Heatran just BEGS Kyogre to come in, and on the switch I sub up, then either use Hidden Power [GRASS] or use Toxic. Kyogre then has to use either Thunder or a Water-type attack to break Heatrans sub, while getting hit with Toxic or HP. I then can switch to Parasect to take whatever he uses. Then I can spread even more status. Fire Blast is for STAB and to hit Groudon who is the second favorite switch in to my metal monster. Hidden Power [GRASS] vs Dragon Pulse is really my preference. I've tested both, and I've found that Hidden Power [GRASS] has helped me in the long run longer than Dragon Pulse has.
That's my team, I've been having issues with it and I don't know why. I guess I'm slightly biased since I spent so much time making this team. Maybe I don't have a single unifying strategy and that's where this team falls apart, or maybe I'm just a bad batter. Any way, rate this extremely long RMT.