The problem is he doesn't learn Taunt which is the main reason to lead off before switching in to Durant. Taunt is mainly avoiding Protect which the AI uses very well against Pokemon with Truant.
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Battle Maison Discussion & Records
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I believe I have come up with a team that just demolishes the Super Single Chatelaine.
Forretress @Custap Berry (dammit, Quick Claw then)
Bold Nature
Sturdy
252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SpD
-Stealth Rock
-Filler
-Filler
-Filler
Riolu @ Focus Sash
Jolly Nature
Prankster
Anything really
-Roar
-Copycat
-Double Team
-Quick Attack
Mamoswine @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature
Thick Fat
252 Att / 252 HP / 4 SpD
-Ice Shard
-Filler
-Filler
-Filler
After Stealth Rocks and the Copycat/Roar strategy, the final Pokemon left will have enough to be KO'd with Ice Shard (yes, I checked with the Yache Berry. I can put up calcs if you want). Only way this can really lose is bya Double Team from Tornadus or (nevermind, it doesn't have an accuracy check anymore) a Extrasensory flinch from Landorus. But if they lead with Landorus, they wouldn't use Extrasensory on Forretress anyway (unless the AI is that amazing), and if they don't, Lando won't have a chance to be sent out against Riolu. So it's perfect in theory, but probably not in game.
Anyway, to get there, I'm thinking a Scolipede/Megakhan/Chandelure. Baton Pass the Speed Boosts, and you're set.
Forretress @
Bold Nature
Sturdy
252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SpD
-Stealth Rock
-Filler
-Filler
-Filler
Riolu @ Focus Sash
Jolly Nature
Prankster
Anything really
-Roar
-Copycat
-Double Team
-Quick Attack
Mamoswine @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature
Thick Fat
252 Att / 252 HP / 4 SpD
-Ice Shard
-Filler
-Filler
-Filler
After Stealth Rocks and the Copycat/Roar strategy, the final Pokemon left will have enough to be KO'd with Ice Shard (yes, I checked with the Yache Berry. I can put up calcs if you want). Only way this can really lose is by
Anyway, to get there, I'm thinking a Scolipede/Megakhan/Chandelure. Baton Pass the Speed Boosts, and you're set.
I'd try and find a special mon to use as backup since you lost to WoW spam last time. Something that doesn't mind ghosts like Hydreigon or Houndoom, maybe.
Also, it seems that any non-box or event legendary can appear in the Maison. In addition to what you've listed, I've encountered the Regirock, Regice, and Registeel. Unsure if Regigigas is present, and also unsure about the pixies' presence. All other base-600 non-event legends besides Zygarde are fair game though.
You could always try an eviolite Murkrow. Gets Taunt, as well as a myriad of tools to abuse with Prankster.
As cool as copycat/roar was, the game mechanics thread found that copycat won't choose roar anymore. So this won't work.
Congratulations on also reaching 300+ and I'm sorry for your loss =/
The Cresselia you are reffering to is this one btw:
Cresselia 2 Leftovers Double Team Moonlight Toxic Protect Bold HP/SpD 227 81 154 95 182 105 78,73 61,07
Are you planning to try again with the same team? I'm at 86 now with the same team as my 360 streak.
Would you mind telling your moveset+ev spread?
Thanks. :]
I dunno whether I'll come back or not since atm, I'm back to IV breeding some Pokemon and wonder trading them (Also, busy with exams). If I do get back to it, I might consider using Rotom-W instead of Gyarados since the team was Thundurus/Zapdos weak.
Mentioned it earlier. Here it is again:
Garchomp @ Yache Berry
Jolly
Rough Skin
6 HP/ 252 ATK/ 252 SPE
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Protect
Gengar @ Focus Sash
Timid
Levitate
6 HP/ 252 SP.ATK/ 252 SPE
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-Dazzling Gleam/ Thunderbolt
-Protect
Gyarados @ Sitrus Berry
Adamant
Intimidate
6 HP/ 252 ATK/ 252 SPE
-Waterfall
-Ice Fang
-Earthquake
-Dragon Dance
Scizor @ Scizorite
Adamant
Technician
252 HP/ 252 ATK/ 6 SP.DEF
-Bullet Punch
-X-Scissor
-Brick Break
-Protect
Edit: oof, another typo on Gyarados moveset. Dragon Dance instead of Protect
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Thanks alot :D How do you get bug bite on Scizor? Thought it wasn't avaliable before pokébankThanks. :]
I dunno whether I'll come back or not since atm, I'm back to IV breeding some Pokemon and wonder trading them (Also, busy with exams). If I do get back to it, I might consider using Rotom-W instead of Gyarados since the team was Thundurus/Zapdos weak.
Mentioned it earlier. Here it is again:
Garchomp @ Yache Berry
Jolly
Rough Skin
6 HP/ 252 ATK/ 252 SPE
-Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Protect
Gengar @ Focus Sash
Timid
Levitate
6 HP/ 252 SP.ATK/ 252 SPE
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Bomb
-Dazzling Gleam/ Thunderbolt
-Protect
Gyarados @ Sitrus Berry
Adamant
Intimidate
6 HP/ 252 ATK/ 252 SPE
-Waterfall
-Ice Fang
-Earthquake
-Protect
Scizor @ Scizorite
Adamant
Technician
252 HP/ 252 ATK/ 6 SP.DEF
-Bullet Punch
-Bug Bite
-Brick Break
-Protect
Whoops, It's actually X-scissor. Heh, sorry for the typo lol.
If you by MK mean Mega Kanga I got a team for you, took me to a 106 streak. Took it from Daega around page 8
Kangaskhan@Kangaskhanite
Jolly, 252 atk-252spe-4hp
Scrappy->Parental bond
Sucker Punch
Crunch
Earthquake
Return/dizzy punch(depending on max happiness or not)
Aegislash@leftovers
Adamant, 252 atk-252 hp - 4 def/spd/spe
Stance Change
Kings Shield
Swords dance
Shadow Sneak
Sacred Sword
Azumarill@Choice band
Adamant, 252 hp-252 atk-4 def/spd/spe
Huge Power
Aqua Jet
Play Rough
Super Power
Waterfall/Bulldoze
It is weak to burn, so may be better with a gengar if going for higher streaks instead of aegis. Or with Rotom-w instead of azu, but the prio aqua jet saved me lots of times. GL in your progress at Maison
Edit: Sorry for double post, cant find out how to delete one of the posts and edit the other :P
I've heard Talonflame recommended over Aegislash. What do you think about that?
Quite possible that would work too, only issue would then be electric/rock attacks due to no resistance, only neutral dmg. Also, un-boosted Talonflame wont OHKO many that it does neutral dmg too, and due to its frailness i believe it will get KO'd rather quickly. In that case id rather use a gengar with sash due to ground immunity and also to be switched into the fighting attacks aimed at Khan. Pro tip: Always switch to Azu on Armaldo, it will ALWAYS use Super Power on Khan and it got EQ. Even a crit wont KO Azu, and it can KO back with Aqua jet
As you may have noticed by now the thread title has been changed.
From this moment on, this thread will collect a records list of all members who play the Battle Maison and wish to be added to the list. The OP has been editted by Stellar, making me the original OP, which allows me to update this frequently.
This does, however, comes at the cost of a few simple rules, which can be found in the OP.
For clarity sake, I will also post them here:
Please keep in mind that all of this doesn't change anything for those who simply view and reply to this thread without caring about records.
From this moment on, this thread will collect a records list of all members who play the Battle Maison and wish to be added to the list. The OP has been editted by Stellar, making me the original OP, which allows me to update this frequently.
This does, however, comes at the cost of a few simple rules, which can be found in the OP.
For clarity sake, I will also post them here:
At the moment of writing, I have only been able to add three people to the records list so far. If you have a finished streak and want to be added to the list, please take a quick look at the rules and feel free to post your streak.
Please keep in mind that all of this doesn't change anything for those who simply view and reply to this thread without caring about records.
For some reason I didn't save the vid from the 107th battle that I lost, with the last one saved at 92. Sucks to be 14 behind the real streak, any other way to prove a better streak?
There are multiple ways of providing proof.
The easiest one being a battle video, but you could also take a screenshot, and a detailed warstory about your loss can also be sufficient enough.
I'm not planning to be a pain in the ass here and not add streaks just because someone forgot to save the battle out of frustration or whatever the reason was.
Even if you didn't save your battle vid, if you talk to the person to the left of the stairway, across from the one that registers your team to start a Maison challenge, she will tell you your current and longest record for a given Maison mode.
Take a picture of that as proof.
Take a picture of that as proof.
I've decided to seperate Super Singles Records that use Entrainment Durant from ''normal/other'' Super Single records.
The reason I chose to do so lies in the fact that Entrainment Durant has proven to be very broken.
If members disagree with my reasoning here, feel free to post about this.
In my mind, people will be less likely to try and attempt to reach top 3 while they are up against #1000+ streaks in Super Single mode involving Entrainment teams.
The reason I chose to do so lies in the fact that Entrainment Durant has proven to be very broken.
If members disagree with my reasoning here, feel free to post about this.
In my mind, people will be less likely to try and attempt to reach top 3 while they are up against #1000+ streaks in Super Single mode involving Entrainment teams.
I was actually wondering about this, before you posted that lol. I mean, Entrainment Durant is cool and all, but some of us want to try and get big streaks the old fashioned way.
Also, will there be some sort of recognition for people who have gotten all the Super Trophies? I know a few have already in this thread.
But you would be sacrificing Focus Sash. Focus Sash on Liepard saved me from dieing immediately to Quick Claw OHKO users (i.e. Quick Claw Fissure Donphan) and I think there are more types. Also Bulk really isn't important for the Lead Crippler since after Taunt/Encore it should die immediately so that Durant can have a Free switch in. The criteria should be:
-Has Taunt
-Has other crippling moves if the Opponent uses a Status Move to prevent U-Turn, Volt Switch, Protect, etc. (i.e. Encore)
-Must be Fast! (Really Important! Especially against other Prankster Users)
-Must be able to at least use a single attack. Especially against Quick Claw Users or survive a U-Turn/Volt Switch to cripple the incoming Pokemon (i.e. Focus Sash)
-Must be able to give Durant a Free Switch in
(I might have missed some criteria by I think these are the important ones)
As shown in the BW Subway thread, Whimsicott is the ideal crippler, but we don't have access to it yet. :p
Yeah I was going to suggest Whimsicott, but knew there was no access yet. Not too long until Pokebank is out, at least!
Compiling data on new sets:
Aromatisse 1 Lax incense Charm Sweet Kiss Attract Draining Kiss
Greninja 1 Toxic Scald
Carbink 1 Light Clay Reflect Dazzling Gleam Light Screen Safeguard
Gogoat 1 Yache Berry Substitute Payback
Changes:
Togekiss 1 has Dazzling Gleam
Aromatisse 1 Lax incense Charm Sweet Kiss Attract Draining Kiss
Greninja 1 Toxic Scald
Carbink 1 Light Clay Reflect Dazzling Gleam Light Screen Safeguard
Gogoat 1 Yache Berry Substitute Payback
Changes:
Togekiss 1 has Dazzling Gleam
700th post huh...
I seem to like making Battle Frontier related posts a lot on the 100s.
Sounds like as good of a time as any: NTPG-WWWW-WWW2-ULK3
Expect a write up and stuff, along with some other thing soon.
EDIT: Here's a picture as well http://i1.minus.com/iWbnK2KDScYIf.JPG
I seem to like making Battle Frontier related posts a lot on the 100s.
Sounds like as good of a time as any: NTPG-WWWW-WWW2-ULK3
Expect a write up and stuff, along with some other thing soon.
EDIT: Here's a picture as well http://i1.minus.com/iWbnK2KDScYIf.JPG
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