5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

Ok, so thanks to all the people above that set me on the right path to getting RNG to work.

I'm stuck at a part, got pictures this time.



Okay so here's exactly what I did;

Opened Rng Reporter 9.96.5 Beta.
Click the "Ds Parameter Search" button.
Put in my R4 (Does RNG work with roms? Or am I out of luck?)
Started up Pokemon white 2.
While in the menu I waited until my computer clock (synced with Ds clock) said 18h 22m 00sec, then I proceed to click "continue" in my game.
I saved my character at the top of the stairs in the sewers. (No Npc is around or moving on screen, so I assumed this would work).
I use sweet scent.
I get into a battle with a level 15 zubat.
I throw a master ball and catch it.
As fast as possible I run to the nearest Pokemon center, and get onto the GTS, and use pokecheck to see it's Ivs.
I input the Ivs. (Can someone check if I imputed them correctly, in the guide the picture shows the min and max Iv tables are different, but mine were the same)
I then shut the power off, and noted the time was 18h 28m 05sec.
After I put in the rest of the info (As seen in picture above) I proceeded to hit the "Search" button, but did not get a seed.

I am using this guide: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/bw_rng_part1

Thanks again!
 
Most likely it's saying it's invalid because you entered something incorrectly. Can you post a screenshot of how you were trying to set up your profile?

It's possible you selected the wrong method, or aren't actually hitting the right PID frame. Can you post a screenshot of the main window?


Sure. I'm trying to hit frame 87. I confirmed my encounter slot, ability, characteristic, and gender, but the nature remains Bold for some reason.
 
Nobody wants to help someone who ignores the help that's already given to them. voodoo pimp already told you about the issue with international parents directly the last time you asked about it.

Okay so here's exactly what I did;

Opened Rng Reporter 9.96.5 Beta.
Click the "Ds Parameter Search" button.
Put in my R4 (Does RNG work with roms? Or am I out of luck?)
Started up Pokemon white 2.
While in the menu I waited until my computer clock (synced with Ds clock) said 18h 22m 00sec, then I proceed to click "continue" in my game.
I saved my character at the top of the stairs in the sewers. (No Npc is around or moving on screen, so I assumed this would work).
I use sweet scent.
I get into a battle with a level 15 zubat.
I throw a master ball and catch it.
As fast as possible I run to the nearest Pokemon center, and get onto the GTS, and use pokecheck to see it's Ivs.
I input the Ivs. (Can someone check if I imputed them correctly, in the guide the picture shows the min and max Iv tables are different, but mine were the same)
I then shut the power off, and noted the time was 18h 28m 05sec.
After I put in the rest of the info (As seen in picture above) I proceeded to hit the "Search" button, but did not get a seed.

I am using this guide: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/bw_rng_part1

Thanks again!
Using an R4 still works, but the parameters will be different, so you'll need to increase your search ranges. Also, the time you use is when you start the game from the DS/flashcart menu, not when you press Continue or turn off the game.
 
Hey, your Synchronize field on the left hand side is blank. You need to fill that in. How are you confirming that you are hitting the right Timer0 & Seed?
It doesn't matter, since all natures in bold are synchronizable. And i checked the characteristics--ability, gender, encounter slot, etc. I confirmed ivs using the guy at nimbasa station.
 
It doesn't matter, since all natures in bold are synchronizable. And i checked the characteristics--ability, gender, encounter slot, etc. I confirmed ivs using the guy at nimbasa station.
Ignore that user. From his/her posts in this thread I'm pretty sure (s)he's either clueless or trolling.

As for your issue, somebody else had the same problem a few pages back, and it looks like RNG Reporter's Synchronize calculation is off a bit, so you might have hit one of those frames that it gets wrong.
 
Ignore that user. From his/her posts in this thread I'm pretty sure (s)he's either clueless or trolling.
Thanks kiddy. The truth is that over the last few point versions I have seen some glitches in RNG Reporter's access to .NET Framework on Windows 7 systems. I would not recommend leaving any fields blank if you are using a 64-Bit Windows 7 based system. Of course, you can listen to kiddy and their extensive background in software development.

As for your issue, somebody else had the same problem a few pages back, and it looks like RNG Reporter's Synchronize calculation is off a bit, so you might have hit one of those frames that it gets wrong.
Oh really? Incredible advice.

Nobody wants to help someone who ignores the help that's already given to them. voodoo pimp already told you about the issue with international parents directly the last time you asked about it.
Seriously? Kiddy, you must so obviously be referring to the following inquiry:

Can eggs be traded over WiFi to Pad Pals? (Just double checking.)
 
Thanks kiddy. The truth is that over the last few point versions I have seen some glitches in RNG Reporter's access to .NET Framework on Windows 7 systems. I would not recommend leaving any fields blank if you are using a 64-Bit Windows 7 based system. Of course, you can listen to kiddy and their extensive background in software development.
Way to keep missing the point.

Seriously? Kiddy, you must so obviously be referring to the following inquiry:
Wrong again, kitty.
 
I have not been missing the point. I run .NET Framework in debug mode. I get alerts from RNG Reporter periodically.

I honestly forgot the mention of the international parents because it was a side note to my original question. Now that I am seeing it repeating, I am asking the logical question of: why? (Which you could pose to either voodoo_pimp or to Cereza) Either which way, it on its own is a question that has not been answered for me.

I will reword this again so that I can hopefully end up with an answer:
What values are changed to the PID by trading an Egg to another cartridge?
 

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I have not been missing the point. I run .NET Framework in debug mode. I get alerts from RNG Reporter periodically.

I honestly forgot the mention of the international parents because it was a side note to my original question. Now that I am seeing it repeating, I am asking the logical question of: why? (Which you could pose to either voodoo_pimp or to Cereza) Either which way, it on its own is a question that has not been answered for me.

I will reword this again so that I can hopefully end up with an answer:
What values are changed to the PID by trading an Egg to another cartridge?
All that matters is that is doesn't work. End of story.
 
I have not been missing the point. I run .NET Framework in debug mode. I get alerts from RNG Reporter periodically.
Hey, your Synchronize field on the left hand side is blank. You need to fill that in.
It doesn't matter, since all natures in bold are synchronizable.
*shows up as bolded whether the Synchronizer field is filled or not*
Thanks kiddy. The truth is that over the last few point versions I have seen some glitches in RNG Reporter's access to .NET Framework on Windows 7 systems. I would not recommend leaving any fields blank if you are using a 64-Bit Windows 7 based system.
Yes, you have.

I honestly forgot the mention of the international parents because it was a side note to my original question. Now that I am seeing it repeating, I am asking the logical question of: why? (Which you could pose to either voodoo_pimp or to Cereza) Either which way, it on its own is a question that has not been answered for me.
The only other consideration is that you can't use international parents or the shiny charm - since the PID rerolls are checked against the ID/SID of the game you receive the egg on, it won't work properly if you trade it.
 
Is there any easy way to rng Uxie what with all the wnpcs? What's a good frame for it to be on? I have a go-to flawless synchronizable shiny frame that's like 135 frames in, starting at like 45 frames. How many Chatots would you recommend in the meantime?
 
For Uxie, it is probably easiest just to lead with your Synchronizer and hope you land on a Synch frame. You have ~50% chance of getting the right nature which saves you a lot of time spent trying to calibrate with so many WNPCs.

ETA: After reading The Agonist's post, I think I misinterpreted what you were asking...
 

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Is there any easy way to rng Uxie what with all the wnpcs? What's a good frame for it to be on? I have a go-to flawless synchronizable shiny frame that's like 135 frames in, starting at like 45 frames. How many Chatots would you recommend in the meantime?
there are seven WNPCs in Nacrene, so it'll advance very rapidly. I'd probably use a seed with a shiny frame around 200-250, just to give yourself a bit of room.
 
I will reword this again so that I can hopefully end up with an answer:
What values are changed to the PID by trading an Egg to another cartridge?
Trading doesn't change anything. But the game checks whether to generate extra PIDs based on the ID/SID of the game you generate the egg on, so if the ID/SID in RNG Reporter are different then it might generate a different number of extra PIDs.

I think it might work if you hit the last shiny frame in the cluster, but then you're getting no additional benefit anyway so there's no point.
 
For Uxie, it is probably easiest just to lead with your Synchronizer and hope you land on a Synch frame. You have ~50% chance of getting the right nature which saves you a lot of time spent trying to calibrate with so many WNPCs.

ETA: After reading The Agonist's post, I think I misinterpreted what you were asking...
I see what you mean. I think I'll just try to land on a sync frame :)
 
I've looked around, but can't find anything to solve my problem. It says in the 3rd post that RNG Reporter will work on Linux (I'm assuming on Wine?) but I can't get it to run after installation. I don't get error messages or anything, it just... doesn't run. Can somebody help?

If you need any details, PM me and I'll tell you as much as I can. Thanks!
 
I've looked around, but can't find anything to solve my problem. It says in the 3rd post that RNG Reporter will work on Linux (I'm assuming on Wine?) but I can't get it to run after installation. I don't get error messages or anything, it just... doesn't run. Can somebody help?

If you need any details, PM me and I'll tell you as much as I can. Thanks!
I was able to get it to run on Wine in the past, but it's not possible with the current version. A version with Linux support is being worked on, so it should be available eventually.
 
Trading doesn't change anything. But the game checks whether to generate extra PIDs based on the ID/SID of the game you generate the egg on, so if the ID/SID in RNG Reporter are different then it might generate a different number of extra PIDs.
The following are the articles that are the foundation of my understanding of the topics:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/PID
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Breed

First off, I would like to address the following statements:
Trading doesn't change anything.
the game checks whether to generate extra PIDs
This is the primary focus of my confusion. These statements contradict each other. Which is it? Trading does not effect an egg's assigned PID OR does trading impact it?

Second off, I would like to address the following statements:
it might generate a different number of extra PIDs
the game checks whether to generate extra PIDs
You have intentionally these references in the plural. Is it not true that a single egg has a single generated PID value (set at time of its creation)?

The statements above indicates that instead of a single generated PID that instead the game generates X number of PID's then chooses one of those to apply? Is this a formula that used for all eggs or just traded eggs?
 
First off, I would like to address the following statements:
Trading doesn't change anything.
the game checks whether to generate extra PIDs
This is the primary focus of my confusion. These statements contradict each other.
No they don't. The checks happen whether the egg's traded or not.

Second off, I would like to address the following statements:
it might generate a different number of extra PIDs
the game checks whether to generate extra PIDs
You have intentionally these references in the plural. Is it not true that a single egg has a single generated PID value (set at time of its creation)?

The statements above indicates that instead of a single generated PID that instead the game generates X number of PID's then chooses one of those to apply?
That's Masuda Method.

The following are the articles that are the foundation of my understanding of the topics:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/PID
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Breed
Maybe you should look around here first.