nerdling, i spent 10 minutes looking at your list thinking what the hell you were talkin about. then i realized you probably mixed up the order of the current tier/tier it should be. correct me if im wrong. however, I disagree with your position on steelix, donphan, and tentacruel. Sceptile also does not outclass venusaur, since theyre completely different, mostly because venusaur has sleep powder and physical STAB.