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Battle Mechanics Research

After much scrolling, I found no place for my one discovery. Thus is the one thing I have: I think this is new to this gen, when a pokemon is past its condition to evolution, like its canceled, it gains an experience boost in battle. Just thought I would share that one. Hope its ok.
 
Has it been confirmed that the success rate of Protect / Detect is reduced by a factor of 1/3 instead of 1/2 for each consecutive use? I heard that this was confirmed for Spikey Shield, but this may not be true for Protect / Detect.
 
I'm not sure exactly why it does this but here's something very interesting that I found while playing around with a Durant-Dugtrio truant trap setup. If you pass truant onto a pokemon that mega evolved on the same turn, truant kicks in and prevents that pokemon from moving. not sure if someone else has already found out something similar. here's some proof: 58TG WWWW WWW3 MSJE
 
I don't think this is documented anywhere, but Knock Off fails to knock off the opponent's item if the user dies to Rough Skin / Iron Barbs / Rocky Helmet. (i.e., it works much in the same way as Rapid Spin)
 
Stellar said:
I don't think this is documented anywhere, but Knock Off fails to knock off the opponent's item if the user dies to Rough Skin / Iron Barbs / Rocky Helmet. (i.e., it works much in the same way as Rapid Spin)
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this is why i use defog over rapid spin now ._.
 
How does Foul Play interact with Unaware? Basically, if I use Foul Play on an Unaware mon with +6 Attack and +0 Defense, should it destroy them or barely do any damage?

Showdown currently has it as the latter, but someone should really confirm in-game.
 
if you can catch any pokemon with unaware i can help with testing. i have a klefki with swagger (gives +2 atk to opposing pokemon and confusion) and foul play.
 
AOPSUser alphatron

Just tested in Le Nah. Foul Play appears to ignore the target's Attack boosts if the target has Unaware.

Turn 1: Foul Play against Unaware Bibarel - 40 damage
Turn 2: switch to Swagger user, spam Full Restore on Bibarel rest of match
Turn 3: Swagger on Bibarel
Turn 4: Switch to Foul Play user, regret not grinding for BP to get the TM
Turn 5: Foul Play on Bibarel - 41 damage
 
If a Parental Bond Pokemon uses Assurance and no other damage is incurred in the turn beforehand, the first hit has normal power and the second hit is doubled. Somewhat intuitive, but a neat mechanic regardless.

Tested in Le Nah with Skill Swap Aromatisse and Fearow.
Fearow's Assurance damage rolls matched up exactly with a +2 Bite.
Fireburn said:
Are Oblivion Wing and Draining Kiss affected by Liquid Ooze?
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Tested this as well because why not. Oblivion Wing is affected by Liquid Ooze. (I don't have a DKiss mon q.q)
 
Pocket said:
Has it been confirmed that the success rate of Protect / Detect is reduced by a factor of 1/3 instead of 1/2 for each consecutive use? I heard that this was confirmed for Spikey Shield, but this may not be true for Protect / Detect.
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testing by spamming protect against wild mons

it worked the second time 18/59
it worked the third time 1/15

the test for the second protect stayed pretty consistent at about 1/3 the majority of the time, so I think I can confirm it for the second protect. However, I can't confirm for the third protect or any subsequent amounts as my results are inconclusive obviously.
 
I just discovered that using Grass Knot against an Aegislash using King's Shield results in an Attack drop. I'm not sure if this has been discovered, but it's weird.
 
Slayer95 said:
Are Stomp, Steamroller, Body Slam, Flying Press, Dragon Rush and Phantom Force confirmed to have perfect accuracy and double power against targets with Minimize?

I've seen that mentioned above, but nothing apparently definitive.
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/Le Nah
I did not test Steamroller or Stomp; those moves blowing up minimizers have always been a thing (in Stomp's case, since Gen 2).

Body Slam and Flying Press double in power and don't miss against minimizers.
edit: Phantom Force will double in power and always hit against minimizers as well.
 
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BlakDragon said:
/Le Nah
I did not test Steamroller or Stomp; those moves blowing up minimizers have always been a thing (in Stomp's case, since Gen 2).

Body Slam and Flying Press double in power and don't miss against minimizers.
edit: Phantom Force will double in power and always hit against minimizers as well.
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Having failed select films a number of times, I can say that Stomp & Steamroller could (AND WOULD, ALL THE TIME) miss against minimizers
 
Youkai Enslaver said:
It only affects a single ally.
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I can't think of any reason you would use it over Light Screen then. Defog isn't as good outside of Singles and if they can't use Brick Break to get rid of the boost then they'll just use it as an attack against your unboosted physical defense. And I can't think of any special attacking Pokemon with Infiltrator who wouldn't prefer another ability in Doubles. Not only does Light Screen affect your whole team, it gives more of a boost.

Speaking of which, do sound moves ignore Light Screen? I know that, like Infiltrator, they ignore Substitute.
 
2 questions.
1)Would knock off be at 97.5% power if used on a sub of a poke who has an item that can be knocked off?
2)Does weakness policy activate if you are behind a substitute and the sub takes damage?
 
We do know that turn order doesn't change at the turn mega evolution happens eg Lucario remaining at 90. Does this also mean that Chlorophyll Venusaur in sunlight will still have Chlorophyll taken into account for that turn it mega evolves?
 
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