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CAP 15 CAP 4 - Part 6 - Stat Spread Poll 1

Discussion in 'CAP Process Archive' started by bugmaniacbob, Oct 10, 2012.

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  1. bugmaniacbob

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    Stat spreads, possibly the single most important part of the Pokemon. I don't think I need to tell you, then, how crucial your votes are in this stage.

    This poll will be run with IRV voting, the details of which are outlined here. This means that you can vote for as many options as you like, and rank them by your preference. Be aware that order does matter in your votes! Make sure that you bold your votes and nothing else! A typical vote might look like the following:
    Please post only your votes in this thread. Do not respond to other posts, or your posts will be moderated and you may be warned. You are allowed to say whatever you like in relation to your vote at the bottom of your post, but please do not look to begin a discussion. Keep those comments to #cap on IRC.

    This poll will be open for 24 hours starting from the post following this one.

    When voting, use only the submitter's name! The list of possible votes includes:
    capefeather
    Deck Knight
    ganj4lF
    GRs Cousin
    jas61292
    PokNinjaGuy
    uwnim


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    Oh, and here are all the posts with spreads avec reasoning.

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    And lastly, here's my comparison sheet for sake of convenience.

    Code:
    User..................		HP	Atk	Def	SpA	SpD	Spe	SF		BST		PT.............	ST.............	PS.............	SS..............		BSR
    
    capefeather........		110	120	99	117	60	94	541		600		185.8419772	116.5716576	194.8938802	193.0895226		390.1675287
    uwnim................		121	116	96	111	55	81	461		580		192.9416926	115.6126612	166.1875228	163.2452715		355.8467268
    PokNinjaGuy..........		110	120	105	120	70	75	413		600		196.6335445	133.9685261	159.7110388	164.0035548		366.5401684
    Deck Knight..................	101	110	110	98	73	108	616		600		194.1473986	131.2939383	198.2158714	177.6369949		397.3035762
    GRs Cousin..........		114	136	104	115	49	82	464		600		199.6976322	100.0181276	196.7474821	169.6289344		374.2514041
    jas61292.............		102	129	112	119	59	79	431            	600		198.8606132	108.8948677	176.5095593	167.0756583		364.5913465
    ganj4lF................		100	110	103	115	72	100	574		600		180.979295	128.773561	186.1183699	199.0347072		393.1201948
    
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    Below is CAP 4 so far:

    Concept (open)


    Typing: Bug / Psychic
    Abilities: Weak Armour / Illusion / No Guard
  2. bugmaniacbob

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    capefeather
    GRs Cousin
    jas61292
    PokNinjaGuy
    uwnim
    ganj4lF
    Deck Knight


    /vote
  3. capefeather

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    capefeather
    ganj4lf
    jas61292
    PokNinjaGuy
    GRs Cousin
    Deck Knight
    uwnim


    I actually really, really like ganj4lf's spread. It does a lot of things that I wanted to do, at the cost of being less "precise" than my submission. Just wanted to put that out there :)
  4. Trainer Yusuf

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    PokNinjaGuy
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    capefeather
    ganj4lF
    Deck Knight
  5. xephslayer

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    jas61292
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    Deck Knight
  6. Maxim

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    capefeather
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    jas61292
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    Blackhawk11 one on one

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    GRs Cousin
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    capefeather


    I don't see CAP4 using boosting moves as a primary source of offense. These spreads uphold that vision.
  8. jas61292

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    GRs Cousin
    uwnim
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    capefeather
    ganj4lf
    Deck Knight
  9. Rediamond

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    Deck Knight
    ganj41lf
    capefeather


    I adore Deck Knight's spread and it needs some love; that base 108 Speed is critical. I feel that speed is very important for this CAP and wasn't considered in all of the spreads. Regardless, my vision for CAP4 isn't the same as everyone else's by any means; 'tis a good slate. Best of luck to all submitters!
  11. Juicy

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    capefeather
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    ...there may be a freudian slip in the way bugmaniacbob has voted and the number of dotes after the user names in the comparison sheet. ;)

    BMB EDIT: for reference, those dots are necessary to align the columns. Any similarity to my vote is purely coincidental!
  12. Ewil

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    ganj4lf
    capefeather
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    GRs Cousin
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    I feel like we need the high offensive stats to start of with to make all the abilities work
  15. ganj4lF

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    I like the first three more - I feel that going too low with the Speed will diminish the usefulness of the poke in general and of Weak Armour in particular. Deck Knight has an awesome base 108 Speed - maybe too awesome, so it's my least preferred of the three (it also gives up a bit on mixed sweeping capabilities). Anyway, any of those three would make me very happy with the outcome, the other four...well, not so much.

    (also @ Birkal - you spelled my name even worse that the slate does xD please fix that. Juicy and Shrooomtastic too...)
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    Deck Knight
    ganj41lf


    All I want to do is be able to outspeed scarfed infernapes, genesects and thunderus-T's at +1.
  20. noobiess

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    Not happy with most of the spreads on here. jas' is about as close to what I imagined would be a great spread for CAP4. The next two are just okay for me. The rest either are very bulky overall and/or have the ability to be great regardless of ability and movepool, which is not risky to me. I usually don't complain about spread selection, but some of these choices definitely detract from what direction we should be going in, in my opinion. That said, congrats to those who made it, and thanks for all the hard work you guys put into making spreads!
  22. PokNinjaGuy

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    The BST is too damn high
  24. SpecsX

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  25. meteor64

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    They're remarkably similar to mine so I'm fine with the slate., I mean, capes is almost defensively identical to mine (2 less def and 1 less sp.def) and the only somewhat significant difference is the speed, hence the no.1 vote.
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