All right.... looks like I'm gonna have to suck it up. What are the absolute best counters to megagengar?
Assault Vest Tyranitar (traps with Pursuit)All right.... looks like I'm gonna have to suck it up. What are the absolute best counters to megagengar?
What Kejmur said. You can also try predicting around its subsitute and send Mega Absol in to its possible doom to try and sucker punch it. Other things can try this, but Mega Absol carries the best sucker punch. Aegislash can also try killing it with Shadow Sneak, and it's a safe switch-in to sludgebomb/wave and focus miss, but if you don't have rocks up you're probably sacrificing your disembodied weapons to the dark god that is Gengar.All right.... looks like I'm gonna have to suck it up. What are the absolute best counters to megagengar?
If that's the case I think other than substitute, will o' wisp could be a good option for gengar to ruin those pursuiters.Assault Vest Tyranitar (traps with Pursuit)
Specially Bulky Drapion (also traps with Pursuit)
Specially Bulky Skuntank (great typing for Gengar, also traps with Pursuit)
MegaScizor (as long as it doesn't have HP Fire, also traps with Pursuit, has good enough special bulk to handle it)
What kind of goodra is that? Max HP assault vest takes a little less, maybe the standard is some speed idfk.praise goodra ;) Sludge wave only does 25.8% - 30.4%. Even dazzling gleam does 31.7% - 37.3%.
I don't think that particular set is ban-worthy (it's undeniably good though). LO gengar actually outdamages mega-gar so the only benefit mega evolving gives is the speed. And the only threats I can think of that matter are alakazam, starmie, greninja, and other gengar.
There's plenty of pokemon in this meta that can outspeed and 2HKO any opposing mon. Gengar isn't unique in that regard. And it's vulnerable to choice scarf and all common forms of priority.
I'm not going to comment on shadowtag though.
LO Gengar has just as much power and was never broken.Mega-Gengar would probably be broken even without shadow tag. It hardly even needs a suspects test, it can OHKO most pokemon with the right move.
He was also slower.LO Gengar has just as much power and was never broken.
Shadow Tag Chandy was able to hold a choice scarf though, letting it outspeed the entire unboosted tier, and that is what made it broken iirc. Being resistant to Bullet Punch also helped.Remember when HA Chandelure was tested and deemed broken? It's like that but with higher stats.
IIRC, that also lets it get out of Dodge when a Pursuiter comes in to spank it, as long as it gets it up beforehand. Just have something that can give it back some HP love with Wish or the like when you get rid of Gengar's problem opponent and it can safely come back in.I'd mention Substitute -- I've seen it used successfully on Gengar, especially since it forces tons of switches now with its spank cool new MegaEvo. Also, SashGar can be anti for Aegislash lol.
I'm not sure you understand how tiering works, at all.MegaGengar would undoubtedly centralize the OU tier if allowed. Its movepool grants it so many ways of punching holes in opposing teams. I have scanned the whole thread and people have been reaching very far in coming up with counters for this thing. When mons that were never meant to be OU like Drapion and Skuntank are being mentioned as possible counters, then there is a problem..
Completely different gen and mega gengar can't hold an item.Remember when HA Chandelure was tested and deemed broken? It's like that but with higher stats.
Focus blast :DDiggersby also resists Ghost/Poison
not that anyone should use diggersby for any purpose whatsoever
I have already seen mega gengar over-centralize OU. The fact if you can not play anything on a team extremely weak to him or he will destroy your team with shadow tag.MegaGengar would undoubtedly centralize the OU tier if allowed. Its movepool grants it so many ways of punching holes in opposing teams. I have scanned the whole thread and people have been reaching very far in coming up with counters for this thing. When mons that were never meant to be OU like Drapion and Skuntank are being mentioned as possible counters, then there is a problem. I know its too early, but I just dont see it passing the first Suspect round. Remember when people were proposing Shed Shell Heatran to combat Gene/Duggy? How did that turn out for Genesect? A SubSplit MegaGar with hazards support can just sub and dance around any AssaultVest Tar or Drapion to avoid being trapped. I am currently testing a CB Infiltrator Spiritomb and it has had a lot of successing in trapping Gengar, but it sucks to have to reach down to the UU tiers and lower to find a good check for this thing.