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Gyarados (Substitute + Dragon Dance) WRITTEN [GP 1/2]
- Thread starter Woodchuck
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I wonder why hasn't anyone mentioned flail? Not to be mean or anything, but wouldn't flail get powered by substitute. If you can sub up and use dragon dance flail will become a powerful move after some Hp is absorbed. Last thing is flail completely outclassed by return/frustration by the terms of power and usage?
Flail is contradictory with Leftovers, and the point of Gyarados isn't to Substitute down to a low level due to the fascinating amount of residual damage and priority going around in OU. When playing this Gyarados, you'd much rather keep its Substitute intact and set up than anything else.
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Additions in blue and omissions in red. [This is my first attempt at gp.] note the full stops
[SET]
name: Substitute + Dragon Dance
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Dragon Dance
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Bounce / Stone Edge
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 80 HP / 244 Atk / 184 Spe
Why this set deserves to be on-site:
Substitute allows Gyarados to avoid burns from Scalds as well as and other status while setting up as well as shield itself from revenge killers such as Rotom-Wand Excadrill.
EVs outspeed positive natured base 115s such as Starmie after one Dragon Dance.
Scarf Rotom-W therefore no longer checks it if its only e Electric move is Volt Switch.
Bounce dispatches bulky Grass-types such as Celebi while Stone Edge offers superior coverage against Flying-types such as Dragonite.
Additional Comments:
Intimidate allows Gyarados to set up on physical attackers and provide support to the team should it not be able to set up
Moxie, on the other hand, allows Gyarados to take advantage of Pokemon sacrified to break its subssubstitutes.
As this set can be phazed by Skarmory and bulky waters, those need to be eliminated before attempting a sweep
Teammates & Counters:
As Gyarados is already draining its HP quickly with Substitute, Rapid Spin support is appreciated to allow it to switch in more often.
Due to this set only being able to run two attacking moves, Politoed to set setting up up Drizzle helps Gyarados hit much harder; for instance, Rain-boosted Waterfall OHKOes Jirachi at +2.
Hazards support also helps Gyarados get crucial KOes as it sets up to afford it more Moxie boosts; Ferrothorn synergizes extremely well with Gyarados, switching into Rock- and Electric-typed attacks and setting up Spikes or Stealth Rock.
Gyarados is countered by Rotom-W carrying Thunderbolt so long as it doesn't have enough Moxie boosts; Ferrothorn can also function decently, although it is 2HKOed at +2 by Bounce.
Bulky Waters in general can stop Gyarados if they can break its Substitutes or phaze it out.
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Additions in blue and omissions in red. [This is my first attempt at gp.] note the full stops
[SET]
name: Substitute + Dragon Dance
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Dragon Dance
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Bounce / Stone Edge
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 80 HP / 244 Atk / 184 Spe
Why this set deserves to be on-site:
Substitute allows Gyarados to avoid burns from Scalds as well as and other status while setting up as well as shield itself from revenge killers such as Rotom-Wand Excadrill.
EVs outspeed positive natured base 115s such as Starmie after one Dragon Dance.
Scarf Rotom-W therefore no longer checks it if its only e Electric move is Volt Switch.
Bounce dispatches bulky Grass-types such as Celebi while Stone Edge offers superior coverage against Flying-types such as Dragonite.
Additional Comments:
Intimidate allows Gyarados to set up on physical attackers and provide support to the team should it not be able to set up
Moxie, on the other hand, allows Gyarados to take advantage of Pokemon sacrified to break its subssubstitutes.
As this set can be phazed by Skarmory and bulky waters, those need to be eliminated before attempting a sweep
Teammates & Counters:
As Gyarados is already draining its HP quickly with Substitute, Rapid Spin support is appreciated to allow it to switch in more often.
Due to this set only being able to run two attacking moves, Politoed to set setting up up Drizzle helps Gyarados hit much harder; for instance, Rain-boosted Waterfall OHKOes Jirachi at +2.
Hazards support also helps Gyarados get crucial KOes as it sets up to afford it more Moxie boosts; Ferrothorn synergizes extremely well with Gyarados, switching into Rock- and Electric-typed attacks and setting up Spikes or Stealth Rock.
Gyarados is countered by Rotom-W carrying Thunderbolt so long as it doesn't have enough Moxie boosts; Ferrothorn can also function decently, although it is 2HKOed at +2 by Bounce.
Bulky Waters in general can stop Gyarados if they can break its Substitutes or phaze it out.
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[SET]
name: Substitute + Dragon Dance
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Dragon Dance
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Bounce / Stone Edge
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 80 HP / 224 Atk / 20 Def / 184 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
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<p>Apart from RestTalk, all of Gyarados's sets loathe status. This set aims to avoid crippling status through the use of Substitute. By using With the use of Substitute, Gyarados is able to safely set up on moves such as Scald, Toxic, or Thunder Wave, Will-O-Wisp, and other status moves that would otherwise drastically decrease its likelihood of sweeping. Substitute also prevents shields Gyarados from being revenge killed by Choice Scarf users scarfed revenge killers such as the omnipresent Rotom-W, taking the incoming Volt Switch or Thunderbolt and allowing Gyarados to get off an attack or set up with a Dragon Dance. With its excellent bulk, typing, and abilities, Gyarados is easily able to grab a Dragon Dance boost and plow through the opposing team. Waterfall is the obligatory STAB move, hitting many Pokemon for neutral strong damage, (add comma) and benefiting from the power boost that Drizzle provides. Bounce and Stone Edge are both viable options for the last slot; Bounce allows Gyarados to dispatch of bulky Grass-types such as Celebi, (add comma) while also netting STAB; on the other hand, Stone Edge offers superior coverage against Dragon<space>/<space>Flying types such as Dragonite and Salamence. The EVs for this set allow Gyarados to outspeed all base 115 Speed Pokemon after one Dragon Dance, such as Starmie after one Dragon Dance, and while also prevents a burned Ferrothorn from breaking its Substitutes subs in one hit with Power Whip.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
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<p>Both of Gyarados's abilities are viable for this set. Intimidate makes it much easier for Gyarados to set up on physical attackers, and also allows allowing Gyarados to provide support to the team, (add comma) should it not find an opportunity to set up. Conversely, Moxie allows Gyarados to take advantage of Pokemon sacrificed to break its Substitutes, further increasing its Attack, power and allowing it to do even more damage to the opposition. Because As this set can be phazed by Skarmory and bulky Water-types, said such Pokemon must be eliminated before attempting a sweep. Consequently, Rotom-W pairs excellently with Gyarados, threatening Skarmory and Water-types with its STAB Electric-type moves, (add comma) and spreading burn among the opposing team with Will-O-Wisp. In general, burn support in general is greatly beneficial, especially to Intimidate variants of this set; burned, (add comma) physically-oriented (delete dash, add space) Pokemon such as Ferrothorn and Jirachi, (add comma) will no longer be able to break Gyarados's Substitutes subs, allowing it to safely set up and begin to wreak havoc. Rapid Spin support is also greatly appreciated,; (remove semicolon, add comma) as this set drains HP quickly with Substitute and is consequently is much a lot more vulnerable to Stealth Rock. Lastly, entry hazards and Drizzle both allow Gyarados to net more KOes and potentially more Moxie boosts. (redundant, but maybe reword it?) Ferrothorn synergizes well with Gyarados, resisting the Rock- and Electric-typed moves that Gyarados is weak to, and having access to setting up Stealth Rock and Spikes. Ferrothorn also fits well on most Rain teams.</p>
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[SET]
name: Substitute + Dragon Dance
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Dragon Dance
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Bounce / Stone Edge
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 80 HP / 224 Atk / 20 Def / 184 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<space>
<p>Apart from RestTalk, all of Gyarados's sets loathe status. This set aims to avoid crippling status through the use of Substitute. By using With the use of Substitute, Gyarados is able to safely set up on moves such as Scald, Toxic, or Thunder Wave, Will-O-Wisp, and other status moves that would otherwise drastically decrease its likelihood of sweeping. Substitute also prevents shields Gyarados from being revenge killed by Choice Scarf users scarfed revenge killers such as the omnipresent Rotom-W, taking the incoming Volt Switch or Thunderbolt and allowing Gyarados to get off an attack or set up with a Dragon Dance. With its excellent bulk, typing, and abilities, Gyarados is easily able to grab a Dragon Dance boost and plow through the opposing team. Waterfall is the obligatory STAB move, hitting many Pokemon for neutral strong damage, (add comma) and benefiting from the power boost that Drizzle provides. Bounce and Stone Edge are both viable options for the last slot; Bounce allows Gyarados to dispatch of bulky Grass-types such as Celebi, (add comma) while also netting STAB; on the other hand, Stone Edge offers superior coverage against Dragon<space>/<space>Flying types such as Dragonite and Salamence. The EVs for this set allow Gyarados to outspeed all base 115 Speed Pokemon after one Dragon Dance, such as Starmie after one Dragon Dance, and while also prevents a burned Ferrothorn from breaking its Substitutes subs in one hit with Power Whip.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
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<p>Both of Gyarados's abilities are viable for this set. Intimidate makes it much easier for Gyarados to set up on physical attackers, and also allows allowing Gyarados to provide support to the team, (add comma) should it not find an opportunity to set up. Conversely, Moxie allows Gyarados to take advantage of Pokemon sacrificed to break its Substitutes, further increasing its Attack, power and allowing it to do even more damage to the opposition. Because As this set can be phazed by Skarmory and bulky Water-types, said such Pokemon must be eliminated before attempting a sweep. Consequently, Rotom-W pairs excellently with Gyarados, threatening Skarmory and Water-types with its STAB Electric-type moves, (add comma) and spreading burn among the opposing team with Will-O-Wisp. In general, burn support in general is greatly beneficial, especially to Intimidate variants of this set; burned, (add comma) physically-oriented (delete dash, add space) Pokemon such as Ferrothorn and Jirachi, (add comma) will no longer be able to break Gyarados's Substitutes subs, allowing it to safely set up and begin to wreak havoc. Rapid Spin support is also greatly appreciated,; (remove semicolon, add comma) as this set drains HP quickly with Substitute and is consequently is much a lot more vulnerable to Stealth Rock. Lastly, entry hazards and Drizzle both allow Gyarados to net more KOes and potentially more Moxie boosts. (redundant, but maybe reword it?) Ferrothorn synergizes well with Gyarados, resisting the Rock- and Electric-typed moves that Gyarados is weak to, and having access to setting up Stealth Rock and Spikes. Ferrothorn also fits well on most Rain teams.</p>
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Omicron, why the hell are you still doing amateur checks? Go apply for the GP team :)
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Omicron, why the hell are you still doing amateur checks? Go apply for the GP team :)
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good job.
[GP 2/2]
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[SET]
name: Substitute + Dragon Dance
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Dragon Dance
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Bounce / Stone Edge
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 80 HP / 224 Atk / 20 Def / 184 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Apart from RestTalk, all of Gyarados's sets loathe status. This set aims to avoid crippling status through the use of Substitute. By using Substitute, Gyarados is able to safely set up on moves such as Scald, Toxic, Thunder Wave, Will-O-Wisp, and other status moves that would otherwise drastically decrease its likelihood of sweeping. Substitute also prevents Gyarados from being revenge killed by Choice Scarf users such as the omnipresent Rotom-W, taking the incoming Volt Switch or Thunderbolt and allowing Gyarados to either attack or set up with Dragon Dance. With its excellent bulk, typing, and abilities, Gyarados can easily grab a Dragon Dance boost and plow through the opposing team. Waterfall is the obligatory STAB move, hitting many Pokemon for neutral damage, and benefiting from the power boost that provided by Drizzle. Bounce and Stone Edge are both viable options for the last slot; Bounce allows Gyarados to dispatch of bulky Grass-types such as Celebi, (add comma) while Stone Edge offers superior coverage against Dragon-(hyphen) / Flying-(hyphen, no space)types such as Dragonite and Salamence as well as hitting Rotom-W for neutral damage. The EVs for this set allow Gyarados to outspeed all base 115 Speed Pokemon, such as Starmie, after one Dragon Dance, and also prevents a burned Ferrothorn from breaking its Substitutes with Power Whip. However, it is important to note that even an Intimidated Scizor is still able to break Gyarados's Substitutes with U-turn at least some of the time.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Both of Gyarados's abilities are viable for this set. Intimidate makes it much easier for Gyarados to set up on physical attackers, and also allows Gyarados to support the team, should it not find an opportunity to set up. Moxie allows Gyarados to take advantage of Pokemon sacrificed to break its Substitutes, as Gyarados's Attack increases with each KO. Because this set can be phazed by Skarmory and bulky Water-types, said Pokemon must be eliminated before attempting a sweep. Rotom-W pairs excellently with Gyarados; it threatens Skarmory and Water-types with its STAB Electric-type moves, and spreads burn throughout the opposing team with Will-O-Wisp. In general, burn support is greatly beneficial, especially to Intimidate variants of this set; burned, physically oriented Pokemon, such as Ferrothorn and Jirachi, will no longer be able to break Gyarados's Substitutes, allowing Gyarados to safely set up and wreak havoc. Rapid Spin support is also greatly appreciated, as this set drains HP quickly with Substitute and is consequently much more vulnerable to Stealth Rock. Entry hazards of your own, as well as Rain support, can help Gyarados net more KOs. Ferrothorn synergizes well with Gyarados, as it resists the Rock- and Electric-type moves that Gyarados is weak to, and has access to Stealth Rock and Spikes. Ferrothorn also fits well on most Rain teams.</p>
name: Substitute + Dragon Dance
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Dragon Dance
move 3: Waterfall
move 4: Bounce / Stone Edge
item: Leftovers
nature: Adamant
evs: 80 HP / 224 Atk / 20 Def / 184 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Apart from RestTalk, all of Gyarados's sets loathe status. This set aims to avoid crippling status through the use of Substitute. By using Substitute, Gyarados is able to safely set up on moves such as Scald, Toxic, Thunder Wave, Will-O-Wisp, and other status moves that would otherwise drastically decrease its likelihood of sweeping. Substitute also prevents Gyarados from being revenge killed by Choice Scarf users such as the omnipresent Rotom-W, taking the incoming Volt Switch or Thunderbolt and allowing Gyarados to either attack or set up with Dragon Dance. With its excellent bulk, typing, and abilities, Gyarados can easily grab a Dragon Dance boost and plow through the opposing team. Waterfall is the obligatory STAB move, hitting many Pokemon for neutral damage, and benefiting from the power boost that provided by Drizzle. Bounce and Stone Edge are both viable options for the last slot; Bounce allows Gyarados to dispatch of bulky Grass-types such as Celebi, (add comma) while Stone Edge offers superior coverage against Dragon-(hyphen) / Flying-(hyphen, no space)types such as Dragonite and Salamence as well as hitting Rotom-W for neutral damage. The EVs for this set allow Gyarados to outspeed all base 115 Speed Pokemon, such as Starmie, after one Dragon Dance, and also prevents a burned Ferrothorn from breaking its Substitutes with Power Whip. However, it is important to note that even an Intimidated Scizor is still able to break Gyarados's Substitutes with U-turn at least some of the time.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Both of Gyarados's abilities are viable for this set. Intimidate makes it much easier for Gyarados to set up on physical attackers, and also allows Gyarados to support the team, should it not find an opportunity to set up. Moxie allows Gyarados to take advantage of Pokemon sacrificed to break its Substitutes, as Gyarados's Attack increases with each KO. Because this set can be phazed by Skarmory and bulky Water-types, said Pokemon must be eliminated before attempting a sweep. Rotom-W pairs excellently with Gyarados; it threatens Skarmory and Water-types with its STAB Electric-type moves, and spreads burn throughout the opposing team with Will-O-Wisp. In general, burn support is greatly beneficial, especially to Intimidate variants of this set; burned, physically oriented Pokemon, such as Ferrothorn and Jirachi, will no longer be able to break Gyarados's Substitutes, allowing Gyarados to safely set up and wreak havoc. Rapid Spin support is also greatly appreciated, as this set drains HP quickly with Substitute and is consequently much more vulnerable to Stealth Rock. Entry hazards of your own, as well as Rain support, can help Gyarados net more KOs. Ferrothorn synergizes well with Gyarados, as it resists the Rock- and Electric-type moves that Gyarados is weak to, and has access to Stealth Rock and Spikes. Ferrothorn also fits well on most Rain teams.</p>
good job.
[GP 2/2]
