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Leafeon [WIP] [QC: 0/3]

Discussion in 'Locked / Outdated Analyses' started by SuperChillarmy, Mar 25, 2013.

  1. SuperChillarmy


    Nov 20, 2010
    hey QC, this isn't quite finished but I would like to start some conversation on whether Leafeon is viable in OU. All feedback is appreciated :)

    name: Offensive
    move 1: Swords Dance
    move 2: Leaf Blade
    move 3: X-Scissor
    move 4: Return
    item: Life Orb
    ability: Chlororphyll
    nature: Adamant
    evs: 96 Spd / 252 Atk / 160 HP

    • Fairly self explanatory
    • Aims to nab a Swords Dance late game and sweep with coverage moves
    • Swords Dance boosts your attack stat to surprising heights, nabbing many OHKOs and 2HKOs
    • Leaf Blade is the main STAB attack, dealing solid damage to anything it hits neutrally
    • X-Scissor surprises pokemon such as Latios and Celebi looking to set up
    • Return is generally the better option in the last slot, hitting things like Volcarona and Salamence for solid neutral damage.
    • Iron Tail can be used in the last slot to hit things like Gengar and Kyurem-B
    • Speed EVs aim to outspeed Scarf Latios, but you may want to run 4 or 8 more as this is a common benchmark for other chloropyhll sweepers
    • Max Attack + Adamant for maximum power
    • The rest of the EVs go into bulk
    • Life Orb is generally the best option for a hold item. if you hate recoil you could run Expert Belt or something else...

    name: Baton Pass
    move 1: Baton Pass
    move 2: Swords Dance / Work Up
    move 3: Substitute
    move 4: Leaf Blade
    item: Leftovers
    ability: Chlororphyll
    nature: Impish
    evs: 104 Spd / 252 HP / 154 Def

    • Leafeon is gifted with the combination of Chlorophyll + Baton Pass.
    • The idea is to pass as many boosts as you can to your other Sun Sweepers such as Dragonite, Victini, and Darmanitan.
    • Swords Dance if you're passing to physical sweepers, Work Up to mixed sweepers.
    • Substitute is a bonus if you get the pass off.
    • Leaf Blade so that you're not taunt bait and to do some potential damage.
    • EVs to outspeed common Chlorophyll users, rest of the EVs go into bulk.
  2. AccidentalGreed

    AccidentalGreed Sweet and bitter as chocolate.
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    Jun 12, 2009
    Have you actually tested these sets in OU? As far as I know there's a lot more cons than pros when using Leafeon in OU, such as being walled completely by Heatran. You have to make a really good case for this one.
  3. Chillarmy


    Nov 7, 2009
    Dunno why I would use this over Sawsbuck. Perhaps it would be best to elaborate on this in the OP before 'conversation' takes place?
  4. tehy

    tehy Banned deucer.

    Aug 16, 2010
    I'd also like to ask why i'd use this over Leavanny as well, it's got almost everything Leafeon does (less bulk granted) and Stab X-Scissor.

    And yeah, that whole Sawsbuck thing. You might start with higher physical bulk and not weak to Mach Punch but even then i'm not really seeing it.

    Also, you're not surprising anyone with one of Leavanny's only viable attacking moves (On a physical set, which is the only kind worth using), and you misspelled chlorophyll.
  5. ginganinja

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  6. PK Gaming

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    Aug 18, 2009
    No disrespect, but you should be at the level where you should absolutely know when something is viable or not before posting an analysis. I can understand borderline cases, but Leafeon is extremely bad in OU.

  7. AccidentalGreed

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