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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Discussion in 'Wi-Fi' started by mingot, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. IamtheOne

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    Is there a Guide to that ^?
  2. Shananiganeer

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    This guide will tell you how to get the info you need. Go into the Time Finder of RNG Reporter and switch to the Shiny Egg tab. Input the current date on your DS, your calibrated seconds/delay, your ID/SID and the desired nature, ability, and gender. Using one of results change the time on your DS to one minute before the displayed time. Wait 1 minute and then enter the game (it must be exactly 1 minute). Mash 'A' until you are in the game. Once in, flip the coin 10 times keeping track of the results. Check that your flips match the flips of the seed you want and if they do then finish the remaining taps and flips (the 10 flips to check your seed are already calculated in).
  3. IamtheOne

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  4. Dizzybanana21x

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    Is there a guide to great marsh abuse?
  5. COKTAL

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    I don't believe so. I've done one before, but I just did alot of guess work for mine. What I did was save 1 step before entering the marsh(before paying to get in). I kept reseting till I hit my delay, then ran straight in and caught a pokemon in the area where my desired pokemon was. As soon as the battle ended and I went back to the overworld game I pressed start. I found out what frame that pokemon was on and calculated the number of journal flips needed to get my target. Sweet scented again and hope you brought up the start menu fast enough so no NPCs moved.
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    no but COKTAL's post gives the gist of it I used this formula for mine:
    Traget frame - actual frame (obtained after you capture a pokemon to check your actual frame) - 9 frames (7 for battling plus 2 for sweetscent) - 1 for each roamer out then all this divided by 2 to calculate my journal flips. You may have to do a turn to advance it by 1 if you value is odd before dividing it by 2. Just try it out and if you miss check by how much and adjust your journal flips accordingly
  7. Dizzybanana21x

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    Thanks for the help,
    I will try
  8. Aviator99

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    in the calibration phase how many times would you reccomend calculating the initial seed before finding reliable values for seconds and delay?
  9. Jubilee

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    Untill you get consistant results, seconds that is, as for the Delay it will be a Range (Even or Odd)
  10. Aviator99

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    well for seconds, i've gotten 13 most of the time (i've only gotten one or two others) and i've gotten all odd delays mostly within the range of 633-645

    is that enough to go off of or do i need more?
  11. The_GAME

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    I have a small question
    How exactly do you hit high delays?
    I read everywhere in most of the beginning posts "Understanding how to hit high delays" but with no explanation.
    Is it just waiting a while until you press continue? If so, how exactly do you time it?
  12. Jubilee

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    As long as the seconds are consistant id say you could stop. Do it a few more times and if you get 13 Seconds Id say stop...

    http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1907765&postcount=6
    http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1822070&postcount=10
  13. acid_paradox

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    when using Method K to RNG in HGSS, do you still advance the RNG in the same way as you normally would? For example, the spread I'm trying to hit is on frame 150. The pokemon I'm trying to catch is Latios (so I'm assuming a monster frame of 1), and there are three roamers (Entei, Raikou, Latias). So my RNG advances would be 150 - 1 - 3 = 146? Or is it different in HGSS?
  14. ΩDonut

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    Yeah, you would advance the RNG the same number of times, but the same actions that advance the RNG in DPPt aren't consistent in HGSS. Sometimes taking a step will advance the RNG by one, sometimes two, and sometimes the roamers will advance the RNG by 4 or 5 instead of 3.

    There's a lot of trial and error involved.
  15. acid_paradox

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    okay thank you very much :) and would you happen to know how to track the roamers?
  16. ΩDonut

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    There's a map on your radio\cellphone device.
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    1 question about emerald rnging I soft restart the game and start the stop watch at the same time So the time shown is 1:01:50 Does that mean if i do not press a at exactly 50 milliseconds i messed up?
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    yep you have to be exact unless your catching a wild pokemon (not a egendary or method 1 pokemon) in which case you could use a synchronizer to help hit you frame
  19. dragonboy52

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    crap thats hard
  20. Dusk252

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    I had a really wired experience with RNG catching just today. I wanted to catch a Jolly Staraptor and the frame was odd so I realeased (RNG'd of course) my last roammer: Articuno. This way, as the monster frame for Sweet Scented Pokémon is 2 I'd have to subtarct 3 from 941 (my target frame). So as 941 - 3 = 938 and 938/2 = 469, I did 469 journal flips. I got my seed correct 3 times and three times did the journal flips. However, I landed on a frame of 942 every single time. Seeing what was happening, I caught Articuno and tried again just to hit 941 and get my beauty. So, it was my first time RNG catching on grass. Does this mean the monster frame is 3 and not 2?
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    yeah other people have reported having the same problem in the last few pages I don;t think there's an answer to it
  22. 7014gree

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    In emerald does the frame start advancing from when you press continue or just as you reset it?
    EDIT:Thanks
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    as you reset so just start your timer the moment you reset
  24. Aviator99

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    Well, i'm saved in front of the Daycare man with him holding an an egg that will give me my desired Nature and Ability, and i've been trying to figure out what frame I'm on so I can start resetting for IVs, but i've gotten some weird results for my frames- 2,7,7,6,8

    The two is really throwing me off... and i'm rather confused
  25. FriDanny

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    Make sure you're collecting the egg before any NPC moves. If any of them turns or takes a step, it will throw the frame off.

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