Actually, one more thing before I leave.
Any reason for applying logic to billymills in specific, and this early?
Any reason for applying logic to billymills in specific, and this early?
Because billymills is the only one who my logic of "well he has been village in every other NOC game before and Walrein is the type of host who would notice that and want to change things up" applies to?Actually, one more thing before I leave.
Any reason for applying logic to billymills in specific, and this early?
Quagsires, didn't the returning to our roots noc game feature a mafia announcer? Incidentally, the mafia announcer was kingofkongs iirc. I could also be reading this completely wrong, so if i am I'm sorry!I think it was actually smart for the announcer to not state who they were, since it keeps one possibility for a power role for the mafia to consider, although that is assuming a village announcer. I would like to point out precedent of no mafia announcer, but this IS Spiffy we're talking about, so...
I would also point out that if there is the possibility of a mafia announcer, there is no reason for the mafia to kill the announcer, since they could keep us guessing as to whether or not the announcer is village, since killing a virtually confirmed villager sounds like a good option to me so as to keep the village guessing as to whom is mafia, with no one they can really trust.
However, this of course does not give any evidence for kingofkongs, as Unclesam's logic clearly shows him being retarded (and with an amazing panda too to cement his creditability), and he should still be considered for a lynch.
I subbed in day 3, but you are entirely correct.Quagsires, didn't the returning to our roots noc game feature a mafia announcer? Incidentally, the mafia announcer was kingofkongs iirc. I could also be reading this completely wrong, so if i am I'm sorry!
Good luck everyone! (except for the mafia)
Bolded possible scumslip, discuss.Generic Good Luck post.
Also if i get randlynched again for trolling I will give sheet access to everyone in this game and see how it turns out.
Bolded possible (BAN ME PLEASE), discuss.Bolded possible scumslip, discuss.
Vote: kok
You may be new to NOC but you are a more experienced mafia player than you are letting on and, while at first I thought your post was some sort of troll I really can't see how it is meant to be taken as anything but serious. Additionally, you implicitly imply that a no lynch would be good today somehow (it isn't), though I suppose this can be excused somewhat because it is true that you haven't played NOC before.Steven Snype said:help
what do i do?
i'm new to noc and idk what i'm doing.
can we discuss possible game designs so far? this looks like a 1v1 game so far with the possibility of a neutral. 24 players so perhaps a 3-4 mafia with a possible wolf. i want to know if it's worth it so far to actually mislynch. I'd rather not mislynch unless we have to or we have a strong reason to lynch someone. I'm assuming most of the votes so far were just trolls, except for zorbees' and billymills', who I'm assuming were just votes to get people to talk.
I'm interested in hearing out people and getting a read on them. As I haven't seen him post yet, for the time being lynch rediamond to get him to talk.
silly sam doesn't understand when to learn that all posts don't have to be completely serious.By far the post I am most suspicious of thus far, however, is this one:
You may be new to NOC but you are a more experienced mafia player than you are letting on and, while at first I thought your post was some sort of troll I really can't see how it is meant to be taken as anything but serious. Additionally, you implicitly imply that a no lynch would be good today somehow (it isn't), though I suppose this can be excused somewhat because it is true that you haven't played NOC before.
As for possible game designs, in my opinion with 24 players just one wolf and 3-4 mafia is WAY too little. It is possible there is a partner for the wolf, it is possible the mafia is larger, but I am fairly confident that a game would not get approved with one wolf and 3-4 mafia vs 19-20 villagers unless the villagers had no roles whatsoever...which doesn't seem to be the case because we know for sure we have an announcer at the very least, and what kind of hosts throw in just an announcer as a role?
Either way, Snype closes his post by simply following a vote started by billymills with almost no explanation for why he is voting as he is.
Oh there you are Paperblade.I'm not sure if I like Sam wanting the announcer to out.
This is a seemingly innocuous statement, but there is no real reason for anyone to claim unless under the immediate threat of death, have a guilty (or otherwise interesting) night result, or we've reached the stage of the game where a mass claim is deemed appropriate (note: Day 1 is not that stage). It strikes me as similar to role fishing, which is usually an actual scumtell, compared to something like "hurrdurr lurking" or whatever which could just be a vanilla who is bored, an important role trying to stay under the radar from the mafia, or mafia trying to do the same. This tends to benefit the mafia because it tells them who is and isn't important/a threat, whereas it's not that useful to the village because they don't quite know who is lying.
In fact, I dislike this enough that rather than RNG a target, I'm going to vote UncleSam
UncleSam said:The announcer did not drop a hint as to who he was, thus proving his role and giving the rest of the Kingdom a person to rally around.
UncleSam said:Now, this raises a few questions. Such as, why would the announcer not want the Kingdom to rally around one trusted user?
And apparently you don't read what zorbees posts either:UncleSam said:Announcer is a completely useless role that probably wouldn't even get killed if it claimed, but it would give us a basis for discussion on someone new and we desperately need to get a LOT of dialogs going early so we can see who buddies with each other and follows on other's votes.
However, I have not dedicated any significant portion of a post to this point, so I will now address this more fully:zorbees said:announcer is a useless role it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for announcer to die.
Firstly, he claims that his last post was a troll...kind of? It really didn't seem like a troll to me, and this seems like he is hoping to just pass off a suspicious post as "lulz I was just trollin' u br0" and move on without anyone being too suspicious.Steven Snype said:silly sam doesn't understand when to learn that all posts don't have to be completely serious.
and false, i did provide an explanation, albeit a very small one: get people to talk. if you'd like some elaboration, i played a short bit of irl rtm, and i'm just trying the system that worked for us. nom a player as a rand or keeping quiet early on, get him to talk, develop reads on everyone and decide then how to vote. i picked rediamond just b/c. the last IRC RTM i was in (in which i did a shit job, thanks for carrying pluff <3), village got screwed when villager yeti foced quags to pubclaim as inspector, causing him to be promptly killed (as bg was randed n1.) I don't want the village losing an important role yet; I, and I'm sure most other players, would rather have some information to go off of before making a lynch.
and if you don't believe i am inexperienced at this format, simply note that i legit thought that there were 3 mafias when Sam has demonstrated why it is impractical.
Also, the reason why I believe we should keep NL as a possibility open for now is b/c we don't know the setup of the game, so therefore, to me, it doesn't make sense to risk losing a potentially valuable player.
current reads on other players:
Sam: vocal as he usually is. however, he seems to cast doubt on other players. Is a bit quick to call attention to others. However, I think that's just him trying to be a villager.
Yeti: has only shown a read about US, and that is a bit suspicious to me, when other users have posted too.