See my first snype point. Regardless of whether content was allowed or not, people already had their role pms.unclesam all the n0 posts were trolls because no real content was allowed
See my first snype point. Regardless of whether content was allowed or not, people already had their role pms.unclesam all the n0 posts were trolls because no real content was allowed
Brammi already addressed this, but as I said before, regardless of whether or not Snype now claims it was a troll, it did not strike me that way when I read it and it still doesn't strike me that way. n0 or not.unclesam all the n0 posts were trolls because no real content was allowed
Provide more reasoning for your votes, please. That being said, I still find Snype the most suspicious, so my vote stands until he responds.Brammi said:Unvote, Vote: Snype I like this wagon for now, I want to watch it grow and we'll go from there.
Care to expand that, I don't follow your reasoning.According to the "n0 posts aren't trolls" logic, unclesam actually is mafia. therefore, Vote UncleSam
this statement has my agreement. the mafia benefit more from knowing the announcer than we do. this gives them: a non-wolf target, alternatively gives the wolf a non-mafia target, to avoid crossfire, should a wolf exist. it also lets them know who is NOT a relevant power role.I'm not sure if I like Sam wanting the announcer to out.
if you notice, i only used caps for EMPHASIS or when someone's name has caps. in most noc games, my posts decline to use the shift key because of how tl;dr they have to be.I personally find Yeti's slipping between "Using Capital Letters" and "i cannot be assed to use capital letters" to be vaguely suspicious.
fallout 3 nob where you got lucky the hosts pitied you after everyone dead demanded your death.As for Yeti's concerns that I lead the village every game I play, this is blatantly false; if you look back at every village game I have played, the ONLY times I have led the village was when I:
A. Was actually village (village won easily in these cases; Redwall, MOB, NOC Desktop Dungeons)
B. Was a mafia with a mole ability playing against beginners who I could easily trick (Luigi's Mansion)
he clearly meant the HOST sheet, fyi. i am also on the host sheet, Walrein's password of "mydickisreallybig" was incredibly easy to crack.@ US: I pointed it out because how woul dhe be able to replicate his antics if he doesn't have mafia sheet access? It could be an empty threat or it could be a slip. I'll grant it's impossible to tell which but maybe just something to keep in mind later.
zorbees was most likely trying to pull a billymills and incite someone by threat of vote, in addition, the 'main discussion' is not exactly helpful if it excludes some players who could be mafia, or suspicious. by trying to strike up a side discussion/counter to zorbees' vote, and some contributions from Coronis, he is adding to our post count by putting up his own unfounded vote and getting Coronis' response.@ zorbees: fos There is discussion going and you don't have an opinion. Great addition to this game. Do something helpful maybe? This goes for everyone ignoring the main discussions at any point in this game.
I am really not sure what connection there is to Snype and me beyond we have cohosted two games, please elaborate.Note: If snype is scum look at yeti closely.
note he says "themselves" and not "ourselves" ! also, he is of the opinion the town mislynching is: not a big deal at all, and in fact could HELP us more than hurt us! not only does mislynching the useless roles, vanillas, and insignificant powers narrow it down for the mafia even more to see who the power roles are, as they will probably not be mislynched by virtue of they can claim/provide results, but, this limits our voting power later on, and prevents possible contributions by these vanillas who have nothing to lose by going out on a limb because their role is quite so trivial.town is supposed to be able to afford to let themselves die.
You got me, I totally panicked because aska noticed I hadn't made a post 5 hours into a phase of an indefinite length.Oh there you are Paperblade.
I guess all I have to say is did you even read my posts or did you just panic when askaninjask called you out for not talking and immediately tried to shift suspicion onto someone else? Because if you had spent two minutes' worth of time reading what I wrote you would've found:
zorbees wasn't asking the announcer to out. He said he doesn't give a shit if he dies. If the announcer outs, unless he has some ability other than announcing, he is basically reduced to vanilla status. This means the mafia has no reason to ever target him because he is less of a threat than an unknown that could be a bg or cop or something of that ilk unless everyone believes him to be town, in which case they still might keep him around for mindgame purposes. Keep in mind that we cannot actually be certain that the announcer is town.And apparently you don't read what zorbees posts either:
I don't see any real reason the announcer is likely to be town other than because it's a useless role. However, that could be mitigated by him having other abilities. To be honest, the biggest point in the announcer's favor is that he hasn't claimed to go "Hey guys I'm the announcer obvtown, now everyone listen to me!" because it would just feel like he's trying too hard.However, I have not dedicated any significant portion of a post to this point, so I will now address this more fully:
-The announcer is highly likely to be allied with the village. Unfortunately it is no longer the near-100% guarantee it used to be, but it nevertheless provides us with one person whose opinion we can analyze beyond simple "this is what I know of that user's playstyle".
Well, it is a combination of two things:-Quite frankly, if the mafia wants to kill the announcer rather than rand for a power role, I'd welcome them to do so. Yes I am aware this marginally improves the chances of the mafia randing a power role, but the difference between them randing at 1/~19 non-mafias (for argument's sake) is really not much better for the village than 1/~18, and the difference it would make in terms of providing things to discuss and claims to hold people to later in the game would more than make up for this difference.
We're less than 12 hours into the phase. It's the RVS. I didn't like what you said so I voted you. I will retract it later if someone does something more suspicious. Right now you seem butthurt that I voted you and are trying to smudge me without actually voting me.Now then, I have a few further questions for you:
-Did you simply skim my posts, or why else did you disregard my previous points? You are an experienced enough mafia player to not throw out random accusations with no backing if you are a villager.
Many of those posts were during the night phase and thus were lacking in content. I guess I could have added that I don't like that some people (Ditto, kind of Yeti) are posting but not really saying anything but that might just be because they have nothing better to do.-Why did you skip over ~35 posts from other players (including askaninjask calling you out) and mention absolutely no one other than me?
I'll take it with a grain of salt.metagame stuff
sure okaysnype stuff
Elaborate on that, since all you're really doing is echoing others opinions without giving your own.Obligatory post, so I'm not randed.
After reading through all these posts, I see zorbees as a fairly suspicious character. Voting multiple people, seemingly at random? Or for reasons he has yet to explain. Anyway, I actually agree with stuff most other people have said and I do think Snype is also not to be trusted, though I'm not content with blindly following UncleSam's lead.
In NOC? It could be pretty likely in the first couple cycles. Mislynches happen a lot more than in OC games.I've probably missed the point, but how likely is it that we mislynch every cycle ?_?
Also, a question to Sammy and Brammi: does NOC always have to be played super srs bsns? Not to call you out or doubt your omnipotence or anything, just a question :)
And I don't think anyone has made themselves look like mafia yet. 24 person village anyone?
Agree that it may be a sign of an sk, but I doubt that talking about setup is good enough evidence. However, seeing that none out of five posts by ditto so far contain any thoughts about the game, other than discussion about the setup. It'd seem to me like ditto wants us to discuss the setup rather than analysing posts. Lynch DittoBrammi said:@ Ditto: Why the obsession with setup? A common sk tell is to talk about the chance of an sk. IGMEOU
Elaborate please, as it's always nice to hear the full thought process. After all, there may be something you see that I don't.kingofkongs said:Right now, UncleSam and Brammi are providing some good conversation, though UncleSam is less of a dumbass than Brammi is.
clearly, obviously, absolutely positively, he is mafia, and knows that the announcer is not on his team.I hate echoing others, but why is US so certain that the announcer is village?