They were also not tested, ever.
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np: OU Suspect Testing Round 1 - ...wait, I'm not Jumpman16!
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Kyogre and Groudon were NEVER tested in DPPt, guys; it was a test held on CaP, even before Platinum was released, where lv~65 (help me here guys) Groudon/Kyogre were tested only to see if automatic 5-turn rain/sun were broken or not.
If memory serves, it was a small-scale, unofficial test on the CAP server so you should bear that in mind when attempting to draw conclusions from it. Even if that weren't the case, this is a different generation and the results of tests in the previous gen are almost entirely irrelevant.
Why is everybody complaining about DrizzleToed?
Hippo and Tar are much more bulkier and aren't just weather inducer. They are very common pokemon that can enforce whole teams and don't need a whole team based on them.
On the other hand, Politeod can be easily destroyed - then a common Hippo or Tar can come in and change the weather to one that fits the opponent team more.
The effects of SS aren't game breaking but can make a team much better. And SS Teams don't rely on the same pokemon as Rain teams - they have a broad teampool.
Hippo and Tar are much more bulkier and aren't just weather inducer. They are very common pokemon that can enforce whole teams and don't need a whole team based on them.
On the other hand, Politeod can be easily destroyed - then a common Hippo or Tar can come in and change the weather to one that fits the opponent team more.
The effects of SS aren't game breaking but can make a team much better. And SS Teams don't rely on the same pokemon as Rain teams - they have a broad teampool.
I could say the same thing about Sand and Sun.
In Sand, all Rock-types get their SpD boosted by 50%. Look at Terrakion who's an absolute monster in the Sand. Or how about how it completely wrecks Focus Sash regardless of Stealth Rock. Also, it nullifies Leftovers recovery just by being there.
In Sun, anything weak to Water can use literally the same argument you just used with Rain. Fire-type pokemon in the Sun not only lose their Water weakness, but they also gain a second STAB multiplier. A good example would be Rotom-H, whose only weakness with Sunshine is Rock.
All of the weathers are useful to a wide pool of pokemon. I don't see how Rain is any better than these. They're all pretty manageable if you have a good team and a good strategy, which isn't impossible with team preview.
Well, sand has:
Doryuzuu, Hippowdon, Tyranitar, Garchomp, Nattorei, Fortress, Skarmory, Genosect, Randurusu, and Scizor.
Rain has:
Politoed, Kingdra, Manaphy (as of this post), Zapdos, Ludicolo.
Sun has:
Venusaur, Ninetales, the Urgamoth, Charizard, Jumpluff, and Victreebel?
Clearly sand has the upper edge.
Doryuzuu, Hippowdon, Tyranitar, Garchomp, Nattorei, Fortress, Skarmory, Genosect, Randurusu, and Scizor.
Rain has:
Politoed, Kingdra, Manaphy (as of this post), Zapdos, Ludicolo.
Sun has:
Venusaur, Ninetales, the Urgamoth, Charizard, Jumpluff, and Victreebel?
Clearly sand has the upper edge.
Weather teams consist of more than just pokemon whose abilities or typings give them an advantage when fighting in a specifici weather. Rain, for example, has, adding to your list, Kabutops, Nattorei, Bronzong and Jolteon, among others.
I might as well just not post and let Bologo to it because I seem to agree with every single one of his/her posts.
I might as well just not post and let Bologo to it because I seem to agree with every single one of his/her posts.
lmitchell0012
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You're leaving out a lot of pokemon. Sun also has blaziken, infernape, shanderaa, tangrowth, etc.
Rain also has vaporeon (thanks to water absorb and hydration), gyarados, and pretty much anything with thunder. It also benefits toxicroak.
Why is everyone ignoring Kabutops as a rain sweeper? It's probaby top 3 for physical rain sweepers.
Also, Genosect is not yet allowed in standard play, which is what this thread is about. Genosect is completely irrelevant here.
Also, Scizor and Nattorei do well on rain teams too, so you should include them there.
Rain also has Parasect ... if you laugh, you obviously haven't faced subseed Parasect in the rain.
The point I made was simply that there is a lot of guys that can go on rain teams, and yes there is probably just as many for sun. The whole point was that rain has a massive amount of guys that can fit on and benefit from rain.
The point I made was simply that there is a lot of guys that can go on rain teams, and yes there is probably just as many for sun. The whole point was that rain has a massive amount of guys that can fit on and benefit from rain.
Inconsistent is easily the most broken thing right now. I've used Inconsistent Bibarel + Octillery for three battles and I've swept with Bibarel every single time without even having to use Octillery. If you get an evasion boost, it is pretty much game. I spent approximately two minutes on the rest of the team (just took four members from my stage 3-2 team).
Here are a few logs:
(Just for the record, I had +5 Attack, +3 Defense, +5 Special Attack, +4 Special Defense, +5 Speed, +5 accuracy, and +6 evasion at the end of the first battle.)
Here are a few logs:
(Just for the record, I had +5 Attack, +3 Defense, +5 Special Attack, +4 Special Defense, +5 Speed, +5 accuracy, and +6 evasion at the end of the first battle.)
Code:
Battle between Player2 and Player1 started!
Tier: Standard OU
Variation: +10, -21
Rule: Rated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Freeze Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: Wifi Battle
Player1 sent out Bibarel!
Player2 sent out Politoed!
The foe's Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
Start of turn 1
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Politoed used Protect!
But it failed!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Start of turn 2
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
The foe's Politoed used Hypnosis!
The attack of the foe's Politoed missed!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 3
Player2 called Politoed back!
Player2 sent out Tentacruel!
Bibarel used Protect!
But it failed!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 4
The foe's Tentacruel used Toxic Spikes!
Poison spikes were scattered all around the feet of Player1's team!
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Tentacruel lost 30% of its health!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 5
The foe's Tentacruel used Toxic Spikes!
Poison spikes were scattered all around the feet of Player1's team!
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Tentacruel lost 28% of its health!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 6
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Start of turn 7
Bibarel used Waterfall!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Tentacruel lost 17% of its health!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel's substitute faded!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 8
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel's substitute took the damage!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 9
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 10
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Tentacruel lost 28% of its health!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel's substitute faded!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 11
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
The foe's Tentacruel used Boil Over!
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
Bibarel's substitute faded!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 12
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel lost 34 HP! (10% of its health)
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 13
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 14
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel's substitute took the damage!
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Tentacruel lost 29% of its health!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 15
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 16
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Tentacruel lost 32% of its health!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel's substitute took the damage!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 17
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Tentacruel used Boil Over!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 18
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Tentacruel lost 31% of its health!
The foe's Tentacruel used Boil Over!
It's not very effective...
Bibarel's substitute faded!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 19
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
A critical hit!
Bibarel's substitute faded!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 20
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 21
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel's substitute took the damage!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 22
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 23
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Tentacruel lost 29% of its health!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
Bibarel's substitute faded!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 24
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
The foe's Tentacruel used Sludge Bomb!
A critical hit!
Bibarel's substitute faded!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 25
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Tentacruel used Boil Over!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 26
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
The foe's Tentacruel used Boil Over!
It's not very effective...
Bibarel's substitute took the damage!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 27
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Tentacruel used Boil Over!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 28
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Tentacruel lost 87% of its health!
The foe's Tentacruel used Boil Over!
It's not very effective...
Bibarel's substitute took the damage!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Tentacruel's Rain Dish heals it!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tentacruel restored a little HP using its Black Sludge!
Start of turn 29
Player2 called Tentacruel back!
Player2 sent out Dusclops!
The foe's Dusclops is exerting its Pressure!
Bibarel used Frustration!
It had no effect!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 30
Bibarel used Waterfall!
The foe's Dusclops lost 49% of its health!
The foe's Dusclops used Calm Mind!
The foe's Dusclops's Sp. Att. rose!
The foe's Dusclops's Sp. Def. rose!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 31
Bibarel used Waterfall!
The foe's Dusclops lost 47% of its health!
The foe's Dusclops used Evil Eye!
It had no effect!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Player2: Do'h!
Start of turn 32
Player2 called Dusclops back!
Player2 sent out Parasect!
Bibarel used Protect!
But it failed!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Parasect restored HP using its Dry Skin!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 33
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Parasect used Substitute!
The foe's Parasect made a substitute!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Parasect restored HP using its Dry Skin!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Parasect restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 34
Bibarel used Frustration!
A critical hit!
The foe's Parasect's substitute faded!
The foe's Parasect used X-Scissor!
The attack of the foe's Parasect missed!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Parasect restored HP using its Dry Skin!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 35
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Parasect lost 73% of its health!
The foe's Parasect used Substitute!
The foe's Parasect made a substitute!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Parasect restored HP using its Dry Skin!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Parasect restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 36
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Parasect's substitute faded!
The foe's Parasect used Substitute!
The foe's Parasect hasn't enough energy left!
Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Parasect restored HP using its Dry Skin!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Parasect restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 37
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Parasect lost 38% of its health!
The foe's Parasect fainted!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Player2 sent out Espeon!
Start of turn 38
Bibarel used Waterfall!
The foe's Espeon lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Espeon fainted!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Player2 sent out Ludicolo!
Start of turn 39
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Ludicolo lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Ludicolo fainted!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Player2: ...
Player2 sent out Politoed!
Player2: Can I forfet?
Start of turn 40
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Politoed lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Politoed fainted!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Player2 sent out Dusclops!
The foe's Dusclops is exerting its Pressure!
Start of turn 41
Bibarel used Waterfall!
The foe's Dusclops lost 3% of its health!
The foe's Dusclops fainted!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Player2: FYI I like to say "If I'm going to loose on my own terms... BADDLY!"
Player2 sent out Tentacruel!
Start of turn 42
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Tentacruel lost 24% of its health!
The foe's Tentacruel fainted!
Player1 won the battle!
Player2: THE GAME!
Player1: gg..
Player1: that ability is broken
Player2: I know
Code:
Battle between Player2 and Player1 started!
Tier: Standard OU
Variation: +65, -24
Rule: Rated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Freeze Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: Wifi Battle
Player1 sent out Bibarel!
Player2 sent out Politoed!
The foe's Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
Start of turn 1
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Politoed used Hypnosis!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion!
Start of turn 2
Player2 called Politoed back!
Player2 sent out Scizor!
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 3
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Scizor used U-turn!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 4
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Scizor used U-turn!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 5
Bibarel used Waterfall!
The foe's Scizor lost 35% of its health!
The foe's Scizor used U-turn!
Bibarel's substitute faded!
Player2 called Scizor back!
Player2 sent out Latios!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 6
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Latios used Trick!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Start of turn 7
Player1 called Bibarel back!
Player1 sent out Garchomp!
The foe's Latios used Trick!
The foe's Latios switched items with Garchomp!
The foe's Latios obtained one Choice Scarf!
Garchomp obtained one Choice Specs!
Rain continues to fall!
Start of turn 8
Player2 called Latios back!
Player2 sent out Scizor!
Garchomp used Outrage!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Scizor lost 32% of its health!
Rain continues to fall!
Start of turn 9
Garchomp used Outrage!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Scizor lost 32% of its health!
The foe's Scizor fainted!
Rain continues to fall!
Player2 sent out Ludicolo!
Start of turn 10
The foe's Ludicolo used Ice Beam!
It's super effective!
Garchomp lost 357 HP! (100% of its health)
Garchomp fainted!
The foe's Ludicolo is hurt by its Life Orb!
Rain continues to fall!
Player1 sent out Bibarel!
Start of turn 11
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Ludicolo used Giga Drain!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Start of turn 12
Player1 called Bibarel back!
Player1 sent out Metagross!
The foe's Ludicolo used Giga Drain!
It's not very effective...
Metagross lost 59 HP! (16% of its health)
Metagross had its energy drained!
The foe's Ludicolo is hurt by its Life Orb!
Rain continues to fall!
Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 13
The foe's Ludicolo used Hydro Pump!
Metagross lost 279 HP! (77% of its health)
The foe's Ludicolo is hurt by its Life Orb!
Metagross used Meteor Mash!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Ludicolo lost 37% of its health!
Rain continues to fall!
Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 14
Metagross used Bullet Punch!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Ludicolo lost 14% of its health!
The foe's Ludicolo used Hydro Pump!
Metagross lost 67 HP! (18% of its health)
Metagross fainted!
The foe's Ludicolo is hurt by its Life Orb!
Rain continues to fall!
Player1 sent out Bibarel!
Start of turn 15
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Ludicolo used Giga Drain!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Start of turn 16
Player1 called Bibarel back!
Player1 sent out Shaymin-S!
The foe's Ludicolo used Giga Drain!
It's not very effective...
Shaymin-S lost 40 HP! (11% of its health)
Shaymin-S had its energy drained!
The foe's Ludicolo is hurt by its Life Orb!
Rain continues to fall!
Start of turn 17
Player1 called Shaymin-S back!
Player1 sent out Octillery!
The foe's Ludicolo used Ice Beam!
It's not very effective...
Octillery lost 78 HP! (26% of its health)
The foe's Ludicolo is hurt by its Life Orb!
Rain continues to fall!
Octillery's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Octillery's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!
Octillery restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 18
Octillery used Protect!
Octillery protected itself!
The foe's Ludicolo used Giga Drain!
Octillery protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Octillery's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Octillery's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Octillery restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 19
Player1 called Octillery back!
Player1 sent out Shaymin-S!
The foe's Ludicolo used Giga Drain!
It's not very effective...
Shaymin-S lost 42 HP! (12% of its health)
Shaymin-S had its energy drained!
The foe's Ludicolo is hurt by its Life Orb!
Rain continues to fall!
Start of turn 20
The foe's Ludicolo used Ice Beam!
It's super effective!
Shaymin-S lost 259 HP! (75% of its health)
Shaymin-S fainted!
The foe's Ludicolo is hurt by its Life Orb!
The foe's Ludicolo fainted!
Rain continues to fall!
Player1 sent out Mamoswine!
Player2 sent out Latios!
Start of turn 21
The foe's Latios used Draco Meteor!
Mamoswine lost 360 HP! (99% of its health)
Mamoswine hung on using its focus sash!
The foe's Latios's Sp. Att. sharply fell!
Mamoswine used Icicle Drop!
It's super effective!
The foe's Latios lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Latios fainted!
Rain continues to fall!
Player2 sent out Kingdra!
Start of turn 22
The foe's Kingdra used Waterfall!
It's super effective!
Mamoswine lost 1 HP! (0% of its health)
Mamoswine fainted!
Rain continues to fall!
Player1 sent out Bibarel!
Start of turn 23
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Kingdra used Dragon Dance!
The foe's Kingdra's Attack rose!
The foe's Kingdra's Speed rose!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!
Start of turn 24
The foe's Kingdra used Outrage!
The attack of the foe's Kingdra missed!
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 25
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Kingdra used Outrage!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 26
The foe's Kingdra used Dragon Dance!
The foe's Kingdra's Attack rose!
The foe's Kingdra's Speed rose!
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel already has a substitute.
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 27
The foe's Kingdra used Dragon Dance!
The foe's Kingdra's Attack rose!
The foe's Kingdra's Speed rose!
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel already has a substitute.
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 28
The foe's Kingdra used Waterfall!
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
Bibarel's substitute faded!
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 29
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Kingdra used Waterfall!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 30
The foe's Kingdra used Dragon Dance!
The foe's Kingdra's Attack rose!
The foe's Kingdra's Speed rose!
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel already has a substitute.
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 31
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Kingdra used Waterfall!
The attack of the foe's Kingdra missed!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 32
The foe's Kingdra used Waterfall!
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
Bibarel's substitute faded!
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 33
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Kingdra used Waterfall!
Bibarel protected itself!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Player2: whats the ev spread on that bibarel
Player2: i think it would go great with a rain team
Start of turn 34
The foe's Kingdra used Waterfall!
The attack of the foe's Kingdra missed!
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel already has a substitute.
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Player1: im using like
Player1: 203 speed stat
Player1: max attack rest in hp
Start of turn 35
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Kingdra used Waterfall!
The attack of the foe's Kingdra missed!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Player2: oh ok
Start of turn 36
The foe's Kingdra used Waterfall!
The attack of the foe's Kingdra missed!
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Kingdra lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Kingdra fainted!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Player2 sent out Garchomp!
Start of turn 37
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Garchomp used Earthquake!
Bibarel avoided the attack!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Start of turn 38
The foe's Garchomp used Earthquake!
Bibarel's substitute faded!
Bibarel used Waterfall!
The foe's Garchomp lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Garchomp fainted!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Player2 sent out Politoed!
Start of turn 39
The foe's Politoed used Hypnosis!
Bibarel fell asleep!
Bibarel is fast asleep!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Player1: lol
Player1: hypnosis hit thorugh +6 evasion
Start of turn 40
Bibarel woke up!
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Politoed used Focus Blast!
The attack of the foe's Politoed missed!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion!
Start of turn 41
The foe's Politoed used Hypnosis!
The attack of the foe's Politoed missed!
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
Rain continues to fall!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Player2: aight gg
Player1: gg
Code:
Battle between Player1 and Player2 started!
Tier: Standard OU
Variation: +30, -49
Rule: Rated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Freeze Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: Wifi Battle
Player2 sent out Infernape!
Player1 sent out Garchomp!
Start of turn 1
The foe's Infernape used Hidden Power!
It's super effective!
Garchomp lost 300 HP! (84% of its health)
Garchomp used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Infernape lost 67% of its health!
Start of turn 2
Player1 called Garchomp back!
Player1 sent out Bibarel!
The foe's Infernape used Hidden Power!
It's not very effective...
Bibarel lost 54 HP! (15% of its health)
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 3
Player2 called Infernape back!
Player2 sent out Latios!
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 4
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Latios used Dragon Pulse!
Bibarel protected itself!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 5
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Latios lost 38% of its health!
The foe's Latios used Dragon Pulse!
Bibarel's substitute faded!
The foe's Latios is hurt by its Life Orb!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 6
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Latios used Dragon Pulse!
Bibarel protected itself!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 7
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
The foe's Latios used Dragon Pulse!
The attack of the foe's Latios missed!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 8
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Latios used Dragon Pulse!
Bibarel protected itself!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 9
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Latios lost 51% of its health!
The foe's Latios fainted!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Player2 sent out Salamence!
Bibarel's substitute suppressed the foe's Salamence's Intimidate!
Start of turn 10
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Salamence lost 57% of its health!
The foe's Salamence used Earthquake!
Bibarel's substitute faded!
The foe's Salamence is hurt by its Life Orb!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 11
Bibarel used Substitute!
Bibarel made a substitute!
The foe's Salamence used Outrage!
The attack of the foe's Salamence missed!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 12
Bibarel used Protect!
Bibarel protected itself!
The foe's Salamence used Outrage!
The attack of the foe's Salamence missed!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Start of turn 13
The foe's Salamence used Outrage!
The attack of the foe's Salamence missed!
Bibarel used Frustration!
The foe's Salamence lost 32% of its health!
The foe's Salamence fainted!
Bibarel's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bibarel's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!
Bibarel restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
-Forfeit-Congratulations stellar. You ruined 3 people's days. xD lol those logs were funny.
But seriously lol, it's really hard to believe that at the beginning of BW, people were saying that Inconsistent would be a terrible ability. I guess if gamefreak really wanted to make crappy pokemon into monsters they were successful with most of these Dream World abilities.
Honestly, right after Bibarel got a sharp Evasion boost, the opponent's chances of winning were basically non-existent barring a miracle (which the Politoed got with Hypnosis, though it was short-lived since Focus Blast had fucker% accuracy after the Evasion boosts). One sharp Evasion boost brings all 100% accurate moves down to 60%. And as we all know, Hypnosis, which has 60% accuracy, likes to miss more than it hits.
Which user do you think is more dangerous and more deserving of suspect status? Bibarel, Octillery, or both? (I guess Glalie and Smeargle don't count for now since they're not released.)
lol I can't wait until Inconsistent Smeargle comes out when you can Baton Pass those boosts to something like Espeon/Xatu who carry White Herb...on top of that it has Magic Coat. xD
But seriously lol, it's really hard to believe that at the beginning of BW, people were saying that Inconsistent would be a terrible ability. I guess if gamefreak really wanted to make crappy pokemon into monsters they were successful with most of these Dream World abilities.
Honestly, right after Bibarel got a sharp Evasion boost, the opponent's chances of winning were basically non-existent barring a miracle (which the Politoed got with Hypnosis, though it was short-lived since Focus Blast had fucker% accuracy after the Evasion boosts). One sharp Evasion boost brings all 100% accurate moves down to 60%. And as we all know, Hypnosis, which has 60% accuracy, likes to miss more than it hits.
Which user do you think is more dangerous and more deserving of suspect status? Bibarel, Octillery, or both? (I guess Glalie and Smeargle don't count for now since they're not released.)
lol I can't wait until Inconsistent Smeargle comes out when you can Baton Pass those boosts to something like Espeon/Xatu who carry White Herb...on top of that it has Magic Coat. xD
Lol, that's exactly how the set makes me feel. Still, it is new and frankly the idea of banning Octillery or Bibarel scares me. Celebi resists water, takes little from neutral frustrations and can force either out with perish song or kill them as a last pokemon. Jynx and Lapras also absorb water with the right ability (and Lapras can shrug off toxic in the rain if it foregos water absorb for hydration) and use perish song.Log 1 said:
This is all theory, I've yet to try them out. Celebi seems he'd have trouble finding a niche with Shaymin-S around. Bibarel and Octillery are certainly evil, but I don't see them as Ubers just yet.
Time to figure out the counters the best way I know how, abusing them and watching how other people beat me!
Well, if you want a tip, Evolution Stone MH Murkrow is actually the best counter for both. Not only does his Haze get +1 priority, but so does his Perish Song, and if you want, his Taunt does too. If you look at the skeleton analysis I made for Murkrow, you'll see that he's not totally useless in OU either, rather, he's quite useful. xD
I personally don't think either are suspects, although it's still a new niche that is rising in popularity, so if it gets too popular and too dangerous, I might change my mind.
Its usually Toxic in the last slot
I remember twice when I faced an Inconsistent Octillery.
The first time, its Sp Atk got lowered 4 times and its Def got raised 3 times. It's Surfs were doing absolutely nothing to me.
Another time, I switched in Nattorei on a Toxic, and proceeded to wall it to death.
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However, if it gets a Sp Atk and Spe/Evasion boost, it'll be near unstoppable. xD
edit: I just realized. Now that we've got OU Drought, think about the usage of Cresselia. Yes, she still gets absolutely raped by Tyranitar, but against any non-weather team...
The first time, its Sp Atk got lowered 4 times and its Def got raised 3 times. It's Surfs were doing absolutely nothing to me.
Another time, I switched in Nattorei on a Toxic, and proceeded to wall it to death.
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However, if it gets a Sp Atk and Spe/Evasion boost, it'll be near unstoppable. xD
edit: I just realized. Now that we've got OU Drought, think about the usage of Cresselia. Yes, she still gets absolutely raped by Tyranitar, but against any non-weather team...
Echoing Inconsistent statements. It basically turns the game into a crapshoot. I played two Octillery/Bibarel teams back-to-back, and despite me winning both, it was from pure luck. The game is almost entirely out of your hand (as the opponent) as soon as Bibarel hits the field. I don't think that's healthy or what we want in a metagame.
Inconsistent is even less conducing to competitive battling than OHKO moves or Double Team. Read: It's bull shit, ought to ban.
True. But Boil Over/Toxic/Energy Ball is still resisted by a lot, despite the chance of burn.
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