First, quit acting like a 15 yr old girl. I've been on the ladder for almost 4 hours now so I think I know what I'm talking about. Also during those four hours, I lost 4 times. I don't think I shitty team would go for four hours and only lose 4 times. Another thing, I used 4 different teams with all 24 different pokemon so don't tell me I miss the point of the test. I'm syaing this based on my own personal experiences, I'm not just typing it. I just think that there's certain combinations of pokemon that make a team too powerfull for UU, which would composed of some pokemon I said above. Comparing some of the stats and movepool of the newly added UU is far superior to our old UUs. I don't see any Venosaurs, Poliwraths, Clefables, Toxicroaks like I used to see before. My old UU team did just fine agains't the new additions so I encourage people not to forget about the old UUs.No. Stop it. No. You're doing it wrong.
I'm getting really, really annoyed of people who want things banned less than 24 hours into the game. The people that compare to UU and go "this is too much", the people constantly going on and on about every threat and saying it's broken. They're not even bothering to pack it up, they're hyping, they're completely and utterly missing the point of this entire fucking test and just going "it's broken" "it's too much" without considering anything at all. Maybe your team is shitty and doesn't have a counter or anything for it.
But above all, stop saying things are broken one day into the test. You're undermining the whole process and ruining _everything_ by doing so. You don't know what you're talking about and you're jumping the gun.
Not to shoot you down, but I considered and passed it up. While it DOES do all you say it does, the way my team plays is I let them get up SR as a free turn for me to do something. I really wish there was some fast Taunter like Azelf, but the closest I come is Electrode. I know it's UU, but I keep yearning for OU Pokemon =P.Tennisace, try Shedinja. It's not a "ridiculous" gimmick for just one threat either, it reliably switches in to many bulky waters (especially Slowbro) without Toxic and predicted Choicers. I've also had success with forcing switches from most variants of Registeel and Uxie, and if you ever see Regice or Chansey, they will also run. Thunder Wave doesn't particularily harm it with Shadow Sneak and naturally low speed either, and I suppose can even protect against damaging status like Toxic and Burn.
Yes, I'm probably going to get flamed and shot down, but I encourage everyone to just give it a try. :P With the proper anti-entry hazard support.
lolFirst, quit acting like a 15 yr old girl.
Four hours really is nothing. It took about 8 months for SD Yache Garchomp to become popular and more for Dual Screen Deoxys-S. You really can't judge what is broken in a matter of four hours.I've been on the ladder for almost 4 hours now so I think I know what I'm talking about.
The initial portion of the test runs for 2.5 months and not for four hours for a reason. You ARE missing the point and using 4 good teams doesn't suddenly make you understand the point of it.Also during those four hours, I lost 4 times. I don't think I shitty team would go for four hours and only lose 4 times. Another thing, I used 4 different teams with all 24 different pokemon so don't tell me I miss the point of the test.
Four hours is hardly enough to judge how powerful is too powerful. See: Garchomp and Deoxys-S.I'm syaing this based on my own personal experiences, I'm not just typing it. I just think that there's certain combinations of pokemon that make a team too powerfull for UU, which would composed of some pokemon I said above.
This is exactly the kind of thinking we're trying to discourage. Get rid of the mindset that is "old UU". Everything in this list is UU right now, nothing more, nothing less.Comparing some of the stats and movepool of the newly added UU is far superior to our old UUs. I don't see any Venosaurs, Poliwraths, Clefables, Toxicroaks like I used to see before. My old UU team did just fine agains't the new additions so I encourage people not to forget about the old UUs.
It may or may not be. They're will be less people doing this ladder so less voters, but it's also really easy to slap up a team of 4 choice users and 2 CMers and meet the requirementsAgreed, we are going to be voting quite a bit, and I would hate to see good pokes stuck back in BL because they were too frustrating to handle. Hopefully, these votes will be handled a bit better then the Skymin one was.
This isn't directed at you; I'd simply like to say that saying this is similar to saying most of OU is broken so we should ban all if it except for a couple of pokemon.Some people figured most of the BLs would prove broken, and we would be left with the Old UU plus a couple.
this.I kind of wish this test corresponded with a tier name change or something, so that people wouldn't get confused and use bad teams of all "old uu" Pokémon and complain when they get swept.
Yes, I wholly agree with you. It would be absolutely fantastic if we had a metagame where nothing was overpowering or centralizing. However, some people here seem to be determined to ban something. I don't know why, just for the sake of it?Doug's mentioned this before: Are we willing to accept a balanced metagame without banning anything in the new UU? I don't think we are. Currently this thread seems more like a witch hunt than a testing thread; people are itching for the Pokemon that give them troubles to be banned. But for what? Just because they can't handle them? People came into the test with the mindset that this was basically BL with a few NFEs mixed in, and that's all it would ever be. Some people figured most of the BLs would prove broken, and we would be left with the Old UU plus a couple. Theorymon only goes so far, and at the moment I think that accounting for all the drastic settling that has to be done, we're pretty balanced at the moment. There isn't any one Pokemon dominating, as most of the top tier Pokemon check each other in one way or another. The metagame is more balanced than you think in my opinion, and I would be just as happy with a small to non-existant BL and a fairly large UU as a medium BL with a medium UU. I guess BL/UU really was a playable metagame after all, who knew?
Agree with SHUCKLE MAN here. I was on the ladder for an hour, and in that hour I met 9 Raikou, of which 8 were the CM/Sub variants. I don't exactly have counters, but I got by. Most of the suspects aren't broken for this tier.It's very frustrating. People just like banning things, and I can't figure out why. I don't care if I find a Raikou, Spiritomb, Milotic, etc. hard to beat. I just adjust my team, or use them.