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Pokémon XY General Discussion

Discussion in 'Orange Islands' started by nerd, May 10, 2013.

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  1. The Diverman

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    Alright would people stop using the Digimon references to describe Mega Evolutions. They're uncreative, they're not clever, they're not funny, and since every time new pokemon are shown, there is always that group of people who say they look like Digimon, so it has already gotten old. Also, isn't normal evolution just as similar to digivolution? A monster transforms normally into a bigger monster, the concept has been there forever. This whole comparison is just plain stupid.

    Mega evolutions are Mega evolutions, simple as that.

    Here's a way for Pokemon to die for you: Stop going to any Pokemon websites and don't buy the games. If you don't like the concepts, fine that's your opinion, but there are many of us who are looking forward to the games and actually like Mega Evolutions, so wishing for a franchise to die just because you don't like a concept is very selfish. Finally, I'm not even going to comment on the "Pokemon has run out ideals hurr durr" remark because like the Digimon comparison, it's old and dumb.
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  2. Knirp

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    Because of the gray and dark brown color scheme you might be right. For all i know it could use it's ears for digging, which quite honestly would be incredibly impractical but pokemon's not exactly known for its realism anyway so who knows.
  3. Fundance

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    you guys are completely neglecting the fact that mega formes won't be able to use held items by default.
    Assuming their base stats are not horrifically overblown (and something tells me they won't be) just how effective will they be compared to their old selves holding...say...life orb?

    Even then, you're losing the flexibility that comes with being able to hold items in exchange for a more direct, predictable approach. and on top of that, what happens when these Pokemon switch out/get their item knocked off? Do they de-evolve mid battle if they lose their catalyst?

    Every generation we get people saying dumb stuff like "nintendo is running out of ideas, I'm gonna stop playing" or "Power creep too stronk I'm gonna stop playing" and yet every generation is still playable. Every single time, and we still get cool and interesting designs that far outshine anything in precious generation 1.

    Pokemon as a franchise operates on the basis of repetition and familiarity as a key formula. You'd think that by now people would have learned a thing or two after 5 consecutive generations.

    Remember back when Prankster Whimsicott was scary?
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  4. Wazzup360

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    People should stop saying gamefreak ran out of ideas imo. Mege evo is a great concept and very refreshing. People saying that since gen 3. everytime they try something completly different people complain it's not pokemon anymore, when they do something simple it's them running out of ideas. I am really hyped for mega evos and think they might maje a lot of useless pokemon ou.
  5. DinaIsha

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    I'm really just waiting for the reason behind these Mega Form changes and how it goes with the story (If it infact does). I hope they give Mega Forms to all starters, at least. Giving Blaziken a Mega Form on top of Speed Boost is unnecessary imo.
  6. Fundance

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    Mega evo is a fantastic way to allow Pokemon to become stronger and fill more niches without touching the designs that people love. Got a favorite Pokemon you wish was stronger? Want it to evolve but worried they'll make it suck? That's fine, you no longer have to commit to evolving your favorite pokemon if it has a Mega form. Since it's a temporary evolution, it means your favorite pokemon can remain cute when it's not busy being more useful.
  7. Jimmyftw

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    Hasn't the Digimon franchise patented their digivolution? What happened? Maybe this is the unexpected partnership Gamefreak mentioned a while back.
  8. DinaIsha

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    What partnership? If you're talking about the combination of a Classic game and a favorite game with the horse image, it's Soritiba: Solitaire and Horse Racing combined (Genious GameFreak). Also, these are mentioned to be Mega "Forms" and do not grow in size. So no problem with Patent issues.
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  9. Fundance

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    Did people go full retard over Origin forme Giratina too? I don't remember.
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  10. The Shadow Knight

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    The one thing I take away from this is that Digimon is still alive in the memories of many if only as something silly to fall back to when no serious complaints can be made about a newly revealed pokemon.
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  11. Fundance

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    So one thing I find kind of funny is that Mega Mawile with Huge Power will probably outshine Medicham as the strongest un-boosted non-legendary Pokemon around. However, since it can't use any held items, it's ultimately going to end up being less powerful than Medicham wearing a choice band or holding a life orb.

    It seems to me at least that not being able to utilise items will be a big deal for many of these Mega pokemon. Maybe we'll start seeing Thief and Covet used more often in serious play assuming that the Mega Stone is used up upon 'evolution'.
  12. Wazzup360

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    What i wonder is, if they mega evolve, wil it be for the whole battle? Cus they did evolve. If so, and they keep form after loosing item in battle, trick will be amazing in doubles. One poke evolves, one,tricks Cb to pkmn, other evolves. Or singles when one switches in on a trick pokemon.

    Edit: can't we use ME for short? Typing out mega evolution every time is a pain on mobile phone xd.
  13. skitz0phrenic

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    I think people are going too far already assuming with 100% certainty that Megas have to hold their item to use mega form.

    We know that some items are a part of the process. That's literally it. Let's not go making up mechanics and using them like facts.
  14. Fundance

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    It's been confirmed that pokemon have to be holding the mega stone to megavolve. Unless it's been mistranslated.

    From Serebii -
    "Following yesterdays reveal of the new Pokémon, and the Mega Evolutions, some clear images have surfaced which showcase some of these Pokémon in battle. It also provides a few further bits of information. First, Pokémon can only Mega Evolve when they are holding a Mega Stone. Mega Stones are a type of item like Evolutionary Stones and include specific items such as the Blazikenite that the event Torchic holds. The Blazikenite is not found within normal gameplay. It also confirms that Mega Evolutions are temporary, being only in battle."

    Mega stones are a CATEGORY of item. INCLUDING Blazikenite. There will probably be a unique megastone for every pokemon who megavolves.
  15. TCZaro

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    So do we know what that other pic is of on the rabbit/go-goat preevo page. Pokeathalon?
  16. RNGnoob

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    Could mega evolution be switching on certain genes that are off for a short period of time?
  17. Wazzup360

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    Edit: post invalid. How do i delete posts?
  18. Crystalzee

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    No, it's the Super Training Facility.
    The Super Training facility is also showcased right near the Horubii.

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  19. CJorex

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    Now that I think about it the Mega-evolutions are very similar to the Pokemon Lv. X TCG cards from the DPP era. Has anyone else thought of this?
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  20. Lazybeef

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    Oh man, Ampharos just entered super saiyan level 3! Shit is about to go DOWN!
  21. darkenshy

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    I told you remenber......
    And i see pokemons with knock off, knockoff everywhere
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  22. Jimmyftw

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    You are forgetting something too. Items like life orbs and choice band have their drawbacks, e.g. taking away health, locking you into a move. Pokemon that dig-- excuse me, megavolve are confirmed to having their stats increased, which makes up for the inability to hold items while also having no other drawbacks. Even if the total BST do not increase it won't matter much because Pokemon like Alakazam if it were to megavolve, will probably have less atk more sp. atk and/or speed. Plus with new ability like mold breaker and magic bounce and adaptability, I will be more than willing to give up on locking myself into one move (choice items) or taking damage every time I attack (life orb). Not to mention, gaining new type such as dragon can make a whole lot of differences. Also, there may be a separate item slot for mega stones so you never know.

    Do I think digivolved mons will be stronger than their pre-evolved forms? Of course! What's the purpose of digivolution if not for getting stronger?!
  23. Messiii

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    Does anyone have a slight idea when PO and PS will be able to feature gen 6?

    Also, what about the old rumour that mewtwo gets two new forms?
  24. Cinccino

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    Would be rad if fossilmons get MegaStones that revert them to their unfossilized type. I mean like Dragon/Flying Aerodactyl, Water/Bug Kabutops, an Water/Grass Lileep.
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  25. Fundance

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    No I'm not. That was only using the most basic examples, but how are you going to compensate for the benefits granted by...say...Leftovers, Focus Sash, Strategic type-reduction berry, Salacc berry, Lum, etc. with raw stats?

    These things are barred from utilising an entire layer of strategy. Items can make or break a Pokemon. When you see a mega form evo go off, you know you're going to be able hit it with thunder wave or Spore next chance you get and it'll be crippled because there's no need to guess if it's holding a preventative item. And that's not even taking Choice Scarf speed tiers into consideration.

    I seriously doubt they'll introduce a second item slot, unless every pokemon gets the ability to hold two items. In which case Megas are still gimped compared to regular pokemon because they only get to hold one item instead of two.
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