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SkarmCents and BlissCents: Beta v0.2. With an "Attack tiers" this time

Discussion in 'Pokémetrics' started by Dragontamer, Dec 17, 2007.

  1. Dragontamer

    Dragontamer

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    Introduction
    This is my 2nd revision of SkarmCents and BlissCents, but if you're new the concept is very simple. Essentially, every pokemon's HP, Defense and Sp. Defense are compared to Skarmory and Blissey. This time around, I have added a way to do mass damage calculations similar to attack tiers / defense tiers.

    So, 100 SkarmCents and that means you have the same defense as a Standard Skarmory (Impish 252 Def EVs, 252 HP EVs). 100 BlissCents means that you have the same Sp. Def as a Standard Blissey (Bold, 252 Def EVs, 252 HP EVs).

    For example: 0 EVed Regirock has a defense of 94 SkarmCents. This means that a 0 EVed Regirock at 100% health has the defense of a standard Skarmory at 94% health.

    Example2: A Weavile has a Sp. Def of 26 BlissCents. This means that Weavile at 100% health has the same "hp" so to speak as a Blissey at 26%.

    EDIT: Pikachu of Doom noted that you can easily convert between "SkarmCents" and "BlissCents" with the following formula: Blisscents = Skarmcents x 1.57. Defense tiers are also another way to compare special vs physical walling on the same pokemon.

    SkarmPoints and BlissPoints
    These are the "attack tiers" to SkarmCents and BlissCents. 1000 SkarmPoints means that a 1 BP physical attack will do a maximum of 1% damage to standard Skarmory. (now try saying that 5x fast :-p). Due to simplifications of the system, there is about a 1% error in favor of the defender in SkarmPoints, and a .3% error in BlissPoints. I doubt it'd make a difference however.

    Trust me, its easier than it looks.

    Ex. Mewtwo Sp. Atk is 172 BlissPoints. This means a Mewtwo using Psychic (90 BP) will do 172 * 90 * 1.5 (STAB) == 23220. Ignore the last 3 digits (220) and you got 23. Mewtwo's Psychic will do ~23% maximum damage to the standard Blissey.

    Check Metalkid. I'm dead-on. Also note: this means Mewtwo has a chance to OHKO anyone who has a Sp. Defense of 23 BlissCents or less. So we can look at say... Granbull who has an Sp. Def of 23 BlissCents. And if you check Metalkid's calculator, Mewtwo bearly OHKOs Granbull.

    Remember, there is some error, but it is enough for the government to work.

    The formula one more time:
    1. Get SkarmPoints / BlissPoints
    2. Multiply attacks, STAB, etc. etc. (minimum damage == .85 modifier)
    3. Drop the last 3 digits.
    4. Thats how much %damage you'll do in the maximum.

    Example2: 252 Gyarados has an attack of 232 SkarmPoints. This means that Dragon Dance Gyarados using Waterfall will do 232 * 1.5 (Dragon Dance) * 80 (Waterfall) * 1.5 (STAB) == 41760. Drop the last 3 digits and I have 41. Meaning DD Gyarados will do a max of 41% damage to the standard Skarmory. (Note: According to Metalkid's Calculator that it is instead 42%. Bah, well, thats the error I was talking about)

    Now. Every pokemon's defense in terms of SkarmCents:

    Format: 0 defensive EVs, 252 HP EVs, 252 Def EVs, 252/252 HP and Def, 252/252 and +Def Nature.
    Code:
    Regirock        94    114   108   131   144
    Steelix         91    111   105   127   140
    Giratina        88    100   108   123   135
    Aggron          80    98    93    114   125
    Rhyperior       79    92    96    112   123
    Groudon         78    92    93    110   121
    Cresselia       76    88    93    108   119
    Arceus          76    88    93    108   119
    Slaking         75    86    95    108   119
    Lugia           75    89    91    107   118
    Registeel       73    88    86    105   115
    Relicanth       73    86    88    104   115
    Bastiodon       70    87    82    101   111
    Tangrowth       70    83    86    101   111
    Rhydon          70    82    86    101   111
    Hippowdon       70    82    86    101   111
    Cloyster        69    87    80    100   110
    Dialga          68    80    83    99    108
    Shuckle         65    87    73    98    108
    Regigigas       67    78    83    97    107
    Forretress      66    81    79    97    106
    Suicune         65    77    81    96    105
    Metagross       64    78    78    94    103
    Golem           64    78    78    94    103
    Torkoal         64    78    77    94    103
    Donphan         64    76    78    94    103
    Tyranitar       63    74    78    93    102
    Deoxys Defense  62    78    73    92    101
    Skarmory        62    76    74    91    100
    Uxie            62    75    75    91    100
    Probopass       61    76    73    91    100
    Umbreon         61    73    76    90    99
    Slowbro         61    73    76    90    99
    Wobbuffet       57    64    81    90    99
    Gliscor         60    73    73    89    98
    Lairon          59    74    71    88    97
    Lickilicky      59    69    75    88    97
    Torterra        59    70    74    88    96
    Miltank         59    70    74    88    96
    Garchomp        58    68    74    87    96
    Omastar         58    71    71    86    95
    Leafeon         58    71    70    86    95
    Shaymin         58    69    73    87    95
    Mew             58    69    73    87    95
    Manaphy         58    69    73    87    95
    Jirachi         58    69    73    87    95
    Celebi          58    69    73    87    95
    Heatran         58    69    72    86    95
    Lapras          57    65    75    86    95
    Snorlax         55    63    76    86    95
    Walrein         56    66    72    85    93
    Mewtwo          55    65    71    84    92
    Ho-oh           55    65    71    84    92
    Entei           55    64    72    84    92
    Palkia          55    65    69    83    91
    Articuno        55    65    69    83    91
    Rayquaza        55    64    70    83    91
    Onix            54    70    64    83    91
    Sudowoodo       54    66    67    81    89
    Magnezone       54    66    67    81    89
    Weezing         54    66    66    81    89
    Sandslash       54    65    67    81    89
    Bronzong        53    65    66    81    89
    Mesprit         53    64    67    81    89
    Swampert        53    63    68    81    89
    Kyogre          53    63    68    81    89
    Feraligatr      53    64    67    80    88
    Dragonite       53    63    67    80    88
    Poliwrath       52    62    67    80    88
    Tangela         52    64    64    79    87
    Drapion         52    63    65    79    87
    Cradily         52    62    66    79    87
    Mamoswine       51    60    67    79    87
    Dusknoir        51    65    61    78    86
    Regice          51    62    65    78    86
    Meganium        51    62    65    78    86
    Togekiss        51    61    65    78    85
    Blastoise       51    61    64    78    85
    Moltres         50    60    64    77    85
    Swalot          50    59    65    77    85
    Kangaskhan      50    58    65    77    85
    Hariyama        48    55    68    78    85
    Glaceon         50    62    62    77    84
    Armaldo         49    60    63    76    84
    Tropius         49    58    65    77    84
    Quagsire        49    58    64    76    84
    Exeggutor       49    58    64    76    84
    Rhyhorn         49    59    63    76    83
    Nidoqueen       49    58    63    75    83
    Piloswine       48    57    64    75    83
    Azumarill       48    57    64    75    83
    Vespiquen       49    59    61    75    82
    Marowak         48    60    60    74    82
    Kingler         48    60    59    74    82
    Graveler        48    60    59    74    82
    Porygon2        48    58    62    75    82
    Zapdos          48    57    62    74    82
    Whiscash        47    56    64    75    82
    Magcargo        48    60    59    74    81
    Gligar          48    59    60    74    81
    Scizor          48    58    60    74    81
    Dusclops        47    61    57    73    81
    Tauros          47    58    61    74    81
    Kingdra         47    58    61    74    81
    Empoleon        47    57    61    74    81
    Slowking        47    56    62    73    81
    Salamence       47    56    62    73    81
    Yanmega         47    56    61    73    81
    Muk             47    55    63    74    81
    Wailord         44    49    65    74    81
    Latias          47    57    60    73    80
    Milotic         46    55    61    73    80
    Gyarados        46    55    61    73    80
    Vaporeon        45    52    63    73    80
    Wormadam Ground 46    57    58    72    79
    Shelgon         46    57    58    72    79
    Pinsir          46    57    58    72    79
    Kabutops        46    57    58    72    79
    Claydol         46    57    58    72    79
    Gastrodon       45    53    61    72    79
    Altaria         45    55    58    71    78
    Machamp         45    54    60    72    78
    Dewgong         45    54    60    72    78
    Arcanine        45    54    60    72    78
    Nosepass        44    58    53    70    77
    Huntail         44    56    56    70    77
    Gorebyss        44    56    56    70    77
    Lanturn         43    50    61    70    77
    Pelipper        44    55    56    70    76
    Metang          44    55    56    70    76
    Spiritomb       44    55    55    69    76
    Crobat          44    53    58    70    76
    Venusaur        44    53    57    69    76
    Darkrai         44    53    56    69    76
    Clefable        43    52    58    69    76
    Dunsparce       43    51    59    69    76
    Skuntank        42    50    58    69    76
    Vileplume       43    52    56    69    75
    Grotle          43    52    56    69    75
    Bellossom       43    52    56    69    75
    Ursaring        43    51    58    69    75
    Raikou          43    51    58    69    75
    Politoed        43    51    58    69    75
    Lickitung       43    51    58    69    75
    Granbull        43    51    58    69    75
    Ampharos        43    51    58    69    75
    Abomasnow       43    51    58    69    75
    Wormadam Steel  42    53    54    67    74
    Vigoroth        42    51    56    68    74
    Phione          42    51    56    68    74
    Latios          42    51    56    68    74
    Glalie          42    51    56    68    74
    Flygon          42    51    56    68    74
    Luxray          42    51    56    67    74
    Drifblim        39    45    59    68    74
    Solrock         42    51    54    67    73
    Golduck         42    50    55    67    73
    Nidoking        41    50    55    67    73
    Typhlosion      41    50    55    66    73
    Pidgeot         41    50    55    66    73
    Charizard       41    50    55    66    73
    Exploud         41    48    57    67    73
    Aron            41    52    52    65    72
    Seadra          41    51    52    65    72
    Sealeo          41    49    55    66    72
    Heracross       40    49    54    65    72
    Wigglytuff      38    44    57    66    72
    Staraptor       39    47    53    64    71
    Porygon-Z       39    47    53    64    71
    Hypno           39    47    53    64    71
    Scyther         40    49    52    64    70
    Lopunny         40    49    52    64    70
    Crawdaunt       40    49    52    64    70
    Shieldon        39    52    48    64    70
    Octillery       39    47    52    63    70
    Magneton        39    49    50    63    69
    Hitmontop       39    49    50    63    69
    Cubone          39    49    50    63    69
    Bonsly          39    49    50    63    69
    Wormadam Grass  39    48    51    63    69
    Starmie         39    48    51    63    69
    Ninetales       38    47    51    63    69
    Hippopotas      38    47    51    62    69
    Slowpoke        38    46    53    63    69
    Machoke         38    46    52    63    69
    Ludicolo        38    46    52    63    69
    Blaziken        38    46    52    63    69
    Rampardos       38    45    53    63    69
    Bronzor         38    48    50    62    68
    Croconaw        38    47    51    62    68
    Infernape       38    46    51    62    68
    Lumineon        38    46    50    62    68
    Carnivine       37    46    51    62    68
    Geodude         38    48    48    61    67
    Togetic         37    47    49    61    67
    Corsola         37    47    49    61    67
    Pineco          37    47    48    61    67
    Deoxys Speed    37    47    48    61    67
    Lileep          37    46    50    61    67
    Jumpluff        37    45    50    61    67
    Golbat          37    45    50    61    67
    Azelf           37    45    50    61    67
    Toxicroak       37    44    51    61    67
    Furret          37    44    51    61    67
    Munchlax        34    40    53    61    67
    Blissey         26    29    56    61    67
    Parasect        37    46    49    60    66
    Exeggcute       37    46    49    60    66
    Breloom         37    46    49    60    66
    Bayleef         37    46    49    60    66
    Wartortle       37    45    48    60    66
    Qwilfish        36    45    49    60    66
    Shiftry         36    43    51    61    66
    Phanpy          36    43    51    61    66
    Victreebel      36    43    50    60    66
    Tentacruel      36    43    50    60    66
    Seaking         36    43    50    60    66
    Grumpig         36    43    50    60    66
    Aerodactyl      36    43    50    60    66
    Omanyte         36    47    45    59    65
    Koffing         36    46    46    59    65
    Sandshrew       36    45    47    59    65
    Mawile          36    45    47    59    65
    Pupitar         36    44    48    59    65
    Mightyena       36    44    48    59    65
    Marshtomp       36    44    48    59    65
    Lucario         36    44    48    59    65
    Froslass        36    44    48    59    65
    Cherrim         36    44    48    59    65
    Castform        36    44    48    59    65
    Camerupt        36    44    48    59    65
    Ariados         36    44    48    59    65
    Magmortar       36    43    49    59    65
    Electivire      36    43    49    59    65
    Ambipom         35    43    48    59    65
    Honchkrow       34    41    50    59    65
    Medicham        35    43    47    58    64
    Skorupi         34    44    44    57    63
    Nidorina        34    42    47    58    63
    Xatu            34    42    47    57    63
    Rapidash        34    42    47    57    63
    Porygon         34    42    47    57    63
    Mantine         34    42    47    57    63
    Chimecho        34    42    47    57    63
    Linoone         34    41    47    57    63
    Bibarel         34    41    47    57    63
    Noctowl         33    40    49    58    63
    Shellder        34    45    43    57    62
    Hitmonchan      34    42    45    56    62
    Weavile         34    41    46    57    62
    Sceptile        34    41    46    57    62
    Lunatone        34    41    46    57    62
    Girafarig       34    41    46    57    62
    Delcatty        34    41    46    57    62
    Purugly         33    41    46    57    62
    Prinplup        33    41    45    56    62
    Stantler        33    40    46    56    62
    Floatzel        33    39    47    56    62
    Wailmer         31    35    49    56    62
    Rotom           33    42    44    55    61
    Gardevoir       33    41    46    56    61
    Gallade         33    41    46    56    61
    Gabite          33    41    46    56    61
    Pachirisu       33    41    45    56    61
    Kecleon         33    41    45    56    61
    Gloom           33    41    45    56    61
    Electrode       33    41    45    56    61
    Dustox          33    41    45    56    61
    Dodrio          33    41    45    56    61
    Arbok           33    41    45    55    61
    Masquerain      32    40    45    55    61
    Wynaut          31    37    46    55    61
    Sableye         32    41    43    54    60
    Poliwhirl       32    40    45    55    60
    Fearow          32    40    45    55    60
    Banette         32    40    44    55    60
    Zangoose        32    39    45    55    60
    Seviper         32    39    45    55    60
    Chansey         21    23    50    55    60
    Nincada         32    41    41    53    59
    Venomoth        32    39    44    54    59
    Manectric       32    39    44    54    59
    Cacturne        32    39    44    54    59
    Dragonair       31    39    43    54    59
    Clamperl        31    41    41    53    58
    Krabby          31    41    40    53    58
    Kabuto          31    41    40    53    58
    Beldum          31    40    41    53    58
    Sunflora        31    37    44    53    58
    Primeape        30    38    43    53    58
    Persian         30    38    43    53    58
    Jolteon         30    38    43    53    58
    Flareon         30    38    43    53    58
    Espeon          30    38    43    53    58
    Absol           30    38    43    53    58
    Ivysaur         30    38    42    52    58
    Flaaffy         30    36    42    52    57
    Kricketune      29    36    43    52    57
    Grimer          29    36    43    52    57
    Turtwig         30    37    41    51    56
    Magmar          29    36    42    51    56
    Electabuzz      29    36    42    51    56
    Swellow         29    36    41    51    56
    Spinda          29    36    41    51    56
    Slakoth         29    36    41    51    56
    Shroomish       29    36    41    51    56
    Mismagius       29    36    41    51    56
    Misdreavus      29    36    41    51    56
    Gengar          29    36    41    51    56
    Combusken       29    36    41    51    56
    Gulpin          29    35    41    51    56
    Houndoom        28    35    42    51    56
    Volbeat         28    35    41    50    55
    Seel            28    35    41    50    55
    Illumise        28    35    41    50    55
    Nidorino        28    35    40    50    55
    Shellos         28    34    41    50    55
    Duskull         28    38    36    49    54
    Totodile        28    36    39    50    54
    Quilava         28    35    40    50    54
    Pidgeotto       28    35    40    50    54
    Charmeleon      28    35    40    50    54
    Raticate        28    35    40    49    54
    Spheal          28    34    40    49    54
    Mothim          28    34    40    49    54
    Marill          28    34    40    49    54
    Machop          28    34    40    49    54
    Loudred         27    33    41    50    54
    Chikorita       28    35    38    48    53
    Squirtle        27    35    38    48    53
    Roserade        27    34    39    49    53
    Raichu          27    34    39    49    53
    Monferno        27    33    39    49    53
    Clefairy        27    33    39    48    53
    Chatot          27    32    40    48    53
    Corphish        27    35    37    48    52
    Weepinbell      27    33    39    48    52
    Sneasel         26    33    38    47    52
    Aipom           26    33    38    47    52
    Mr. Mime        26    34    36    47    51
    Swablu          26    33    36    46    51
    Goldeen         26    33    36    46    51
    Bagon           26    33    36    46    51
    Venonat         26    32    37    46    51
    Teddiursa       26    32    37    46    51
    Snubbull        26    32    37    46    51
    Snover          26    32    37    46    51
    Minun           26    32    37    46    51
    Lombre          26    32    37    46    51
    Farfetch'd      26    32    37    46    51
    Butterfree      26    32    37    46    51
    Beautifly       26    32    37    46    51
    Drifloon        24    29    39    46    51
    Horsea          25    33    35    45    50
    Nidoran F       25    32    37    46    50
    Silcoon         25    32    36    46    50
    Ponyta          25    32    36    46    50
    Piplup          25    32    36    46    50
    Metapod         25    32    36    46    50
    Finneon         25    32    36    46    50
    Cascoon         25    32    36    46    50
    Stunky          25    31    37    46    50
    Luxio           25    31    37    46    50
    Yanma           25    30    37    45    50
    Togepi          25    33    35    45    49
    Staravia        25    31    36    45    49
    Skiploom        25    31    36    45    49
    Ledian          25    31    36    45    49
    Hitmonlee       25    31    36    45    49
    Eevee           25    31    36    45    49
    Ninjask         24    30    36    44    49
    Chinchou        23    29    37    45    49
    Sharpedo        23    29    36    44    49
    Nuzleaf         23    29    36    44    49
    Magnemite       24    32    33    44    48
    Oddish          24    31    35    44    48
    Vibrava         24    30    35    44    48
    Snorunt         24    30    35    44    48
    Mudkip          24    30    35    44    48
    Larvitar        24    30    35    44    48
    Deoxys Balanced 24    30    35    44    48
    Luvdisc         24    30    34    44    48
    Drowzee         24    29    36    44    48
    Gible           23    29    35    44    48
    Cranidos        23    28    35    44    48
    Baltoy          23    30    33    43    47
    Psyduck         23    29    34    43    47
    Beedrill        23    28    35    43    47
    Wooper          23    28    34    43    47
    Murkrow         23    28    34    43    47
    Growlithe       23    28    34    43    47
    Alakazam        23    28    34    43    47
    Jigglypuff      20    24    37    43    47
    Unown           23    29    33    42    46
    Mantyke         23    29    33    42    46
    Kakuna          23    29    33    42    46
    Ditto           23    29    33    42    46
    Chingling       23    29    33    42    46
    Anorith         23    29    33    42    46
    Buneary         22    28    34    42    46
    Bulbasaur       22    28    33    42    46
    Plusle          22    27    34    42    46
    Numel           22    27    34    42    46
    Paras           22    29    32    41    45
    Skitty          22    28    33    41    45
    Roselia         22    28    33    41    45
    Grovyle         22    28    33    41    45
    Voltorb         22    28    32    41    45
    Seedot          22    28    32    41    45
    Bidoof          22    27    33    41    45
    Staryu          21    28    30    40    44
    Meditite        21    28    30    40    44
    Barboach        21    27    32    40    44
    Trapinch        21    27    31    40    44
    Haunter         21    27    31    40    44
    Delibird        21    27    31    40    44
    Cherubi         21    27    31    40    44
    Mareep          21    26    32    40    44
    Glameow         21    26    31    40    44
    Jynx            21    25    33    41    44
    Makuhita        20    24    33    40    44
    Dugtrio         21    27    30    39    43
    Chimchar        20    26    31    39    43
    Dratini         20    26    30    39    43
    Spoink          20    25    32    39    43
    Swinub          20    25    31    39    43
    Cacnea          20    25    31    39    43
    Azurill         20    25    31    39    43
    Natu            20    26    30    39    42
    Burmy           20    26    30    39    42
    Croagunk        20    25    31    39    42
    Nidoran M       19    25    30    38    42
    Smeargle        19    24    31    38    42
    Buizel          19    24    31    38    42
    Torchic         19    25    30    38    41
    Cyndaquil       19    25    29    38    41
    Charmander      19    25    29    38    41
    Doduo           19    25    29    37    41
    Hoothoot        18    22    30    37    41
    Magikarp        19    26    27    37    40
    Ekans           19    24    28    37    40
    Spinarak        18    24    28    37    40
    Slugma          18    24    28    37    40
    Riolu           18    24    28    37    40
    Poliwag         18    24    28    37    40
    Pidgey          18    24    28    37    40
    Electrike       18    24    28    37    40
    Zigzagoon       18    24    28    36    40
    Kricketot       18    24    28    36    40
    Magby           18    23    29    37    40
    Elekid          18    23    29    37    40
    Bellsprout      18    23    29    37    40
    Vulpix          18    23    28    36    39
    Hoppip          18    23    27    35    39
    Wurmple         18    22    28    36    39
    Caterpie        18    22    28    36    39
    Shuppet         17    22    28    36    39
    Shinx           17    22    28    35    39
    Igglybuff       15    18    30    36    39
    Combee          17    23    26    35    38
    Zubat           17    22    27    35    38
    Treecko         17    22    27    35    38
    Tentacool       17    22    27    35    38
    Meowth          17    22    27    35    38
    Mankey          17    22    27    35    38
    Budew           17    22    27    35    38
    Whismur         16    20    28    35    38
    Kirlia          17    21    26    34    37
    Cleffa          16    20    27    34    37
    Houndour        16    20    26    34    37
    Surskit         16    20    26    33    37
    Mime Jr.        16    22    25    33    36
    Tyrogue         16    21    26    33    36
    Remoraid        16    21    26    33    36
    Poochyena       16    21    26    33    36
    Sentret         16    21    25    33    36
    Wingull         15    20    25    32    36
    Weedle          15    20    25    32    36
    Taillow         15    20    25    32    36
    Starly          15    20    25    32    36
    Spearow         15    20    25    32    36
    Lotad           15    20    25    32    36
    Ledyba          15    20    25    32    36
    Kadabra         15    20    25    32    36
    Rattata         15    20    24    32    35
    Happiny         11    13    27    32    35
    Pikachu         15    19    24    31    34
    Sunkern         14    18    23    30    33
    Gastly          14    18    23    30    33
    Deoxys Attack   13    17    24    30    33
    Carvanha        13    16    23    29    32
    Ralts           12    16    21    28    31
    Smoochum        11    14    21    27    30
    Feebas          10    13    18    24    27
    Diglett         10    14    17    24    26
    Abra            9     12    18    24    26
    Pichu           9     12    17    23    25
    Everyone's Sp. Def in terms of BlissCents.

    0 EVs, 252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 252/252 HP and Sp. Def, 252/252 +Nature
    Code:
    Blissey         91    100   110   121   132
    Chansey         72    79    91    100   109
    Regice          60    73    69    83    91
    Giratina        56    64    68    78    86
    Lugia           56    65    66    77    85
    Ho-oh           56    65    66    77    85
    Snorlax         54    61    67    77    84
    Cresselia       52    60    63    73    80
    Kyogre          49    58    59    70    77
    Arceus          48    56    59    69    76
    Registeel       46    56    55    66    73
    Umbreon         45    53    54    65    71
    Milotic         43    52    53    63    69
    Shuckle         41    55    46    62    69
    Regigigas       42    50    53    62    68
    Articuno        42    50    51    61    67
    Suicune         42    49    51    61    67
    Vaporeon        41    48    53    61    67
    Lapras          41    48    53    61    67
    Latias          41    49    49    60    66
    Palkia          41    49    50    60    65
    Probopass       40    50    48    59    65
    Deoxys Defense  39    50    46    58    64
    Uxie            39    48    48    58    64
    Mantine         39    48    47    58    64
    Munchlax        39    45    51    58    64
    Slowking        39    46    48    58    63
    Wobbuffet       36    41    51    57    63
    Togekiss        38    46    47    56    62
    Tentacruel      38    46    47    56    62
    Hypno           38    46    47    56    62
    Muk             38    45    48    57    62
    Lickilicky      37    44    48    56    62
    Bastiodon       37    46    45    56    61
    Tyranitar       37    44    47    55    61
    Shaymin         37    44    47    55    61
    Mew             37    44    47    55    61
    Manaphy         37    44    47    55    61
    Jirachi         37    44    47    55    61
    Dialga          37    44    47    55    61
    Celebi          37    44    47    55    61
    Heatran         37    44    46    55    60
    Gyarados        36    43    45    54    59
    Cradily         36    43    45    54    59
    Walrein         36    42    46    54    59
    Noctowl         36    42    45    54    59
    Latios          35    43    44    53    58
    Grumpig         35    43    44    53    58
    Dragonite       35    42    44    53    58
    Rayquaza        35    41    45    53    58
    Mewtwo          35    41    45    53    58
    Raikou          35    41    44    53    58
    Politoed        35    41    44    53    58
    Slaking         34    38    46    53    58
    Swampert        34    40    44    52    57
    Groudon         34    40    44    52    57
    Garchomp        34    40    44    52    57
    Lanturn         34    39    45    52    57
    Mesprit         34    41    43    51    56
    Empoleon        34    41    43    51    56
    Gardevoir       34    41    42    51    56
    Gallade         34    41    42    51    56
    Bronzong        34    41    42    51    56
    Blastoise       34    41    42    51    56
    Dewgong         33    40    42    51    56
    Gastrodon       33    39    44    51    56
    Kecleon         33    41    40    50    55
    Claydol         33    41    40    50    55
    Altaria         33    40    41    50    55
    Tropius         33    39    42    50    55
    Clefable        33    39    42    50    55
    Venusaur        33    39    41    50    55
    Regirock        33    39    41    50    55
    Meganium        33    39    41    50    55
    Ludicolo        33    39    41    50    55
    Dusknoir        32    41    39    50    54
    Porygon2        32    39    41    49    54
    Flareon         32    39    40    49    54
    Zapdos          32    38    41    49    54
    Poliwrath       32    38    41    49    54
    Ampharos        32    38    41    49    54
    Entei           32    37    42    49    54
    Swalot          32    37    41    49    54
    Kangaskhan      31    37    42    49    54
    Hariyama        31    35    43    49    54
    Heracross       31    38    40    48    53
    Bellossom       31    38    40    48    53
    Ninetales       31    38    39    48    53
    Torterra        31    37    41    49    53
    Azumarill       31    36    40    48    53
    Vespiquen       31    38    39    48    52
    Nidoqueen       30    36    40    47    52
    Moltres         30    36    40    47    52
    Machamp         30    36    40    47    52
    Abomasnow       30    36    40    47    52
    Drifblim        29    33    42    48    52
    Wailord         28    31    42    47    52
    Dusclops        30    38    36    47    51
    Magmortar       30    37    38    47    51
    Kingdra         30    37    38    47    51
    Metagross       30    36    38    46    51
    Slowbro         30    35    39    47    51
    Salamence       30    35    39    47    51
    Whiscash        29    35    40    47    51
    Hippowdon       29    35    40    47    51
    Ledian          29    37    37    46    50
    Mantyke         29    37    36    46    50
    Wormadam Grass  29    36    37    46    50
    Roserade        29    36    37    46    50
    Mismagius       29    36    37    46    50
    Feraligatr      29    35    38    45    50
    Vileplume       29    35    37    45    50
    Arcanine        29    34    38    46    50
    Hitmontop       28    36    35    44    49
    Hitmonlee       28    36    35    44    49
    Hitmonchan      28    36    35    44    49
    Lopunny         28    35    36    44    49
    Togetic         28    35    35    44    49
    Typhlosion      28    34    37    44    49
    Crobat          28    34    37    44    49
    Charizard       28    34    37    44    49
    Mr. Mime        28    36    34    44    48
    Jynx            28    35    36    44    48
    Jolteon         28    35    36    44    48
    Glaceon         28    35    36    44    48
    Espeon          28    35    36    44    48
    Spiritomb       28    35    35    44    48
    Magnezone       28    34    36    44    48
    Darkrai         28    34    36    44    48
    Ursaring        27    33    37    44    48
    Lickitung       27    33    37    44    48
    Sunflora        27    33    36    44    48
    Jumpluff        27    33    36    44    48
    Electivire      27    33    36    44    48
    Wigglytuff      26    30    38    44    48
    Wormadam Steel  27    34    35    43    47
    Seaking         27    33    36    43    47
    Phione          27    33    36    43    47
    Golduck         27    33    36    43    47
    Glalie          27    33    36    43    47
    Flygon          27    33    36    43    47
    Lumineon        27    33    35    42    47
    Miltank         27    32    36    43    47
    Luxray          27    32    35    43    47
    Porygon-Z       26    32    35    43    47
    Exploud         26    31    36    42    47
    Mamoswine       26    30    36    43    47
    Weavile         26    32    35    42    46
    Sceptile        26    32    35    42    46
    Lunatone        26    32    35    42    46
    Lileep          26    32    34    42    46
    Houndoom        26    32    34    42    46
    Armaldo         26    32    34    42    46
    Relicanth       26    31    36    42    46
    Happiny         26    31    36    42    46
    Dunsparce       26    31    36    42    46
    Sealeo          26    31    35    42    46
    Nidoking        26    31    35    42    46
    Masquerain      26    31    34    41    46
    Skuntank        25    30    35    41    46
    Pachirisu       26    32    33    41    45
    Dustox          26    32    33    41    45
    Drowzee         26    32    33    41    45
    Aerodactyl      26    31    34    41    45
    Magmar          26    31    33    41    45
    Electabuzz      26    31    33    41    45
    Scyther         25    31    33    41    45
    Scizor          25    31    33    41    45
    Quagsire        25    30    35    41    45
    Exeggutor       25    30    35    41    45
    Rhyperior       25    29    35    42    45
    Wormadam Ground 25    31    32    40    44
    Starmie         25    31    32    40    44
    Misdreavus      25    31    32    40    44
    Minun           25    31    32    40    44
    Pidgeot         25    30    34    40    44
    Octillery       25    30    33    40    44
    Golbat          25    30    33    40    44
    Gliscor         25    30    33    40    44
    Cherrim         25    30    33    40    44
    Piloswine       24    29    34    40    44
    Blaziken        24    29    33    40    44
    Tentacool       24    31    30    39    43
    Rapidash        24    30    32    40    43
    Chimecho        24    30    32    40    43
    Beedrill        24    30    32    40    43
    Bronzor         24    30    32    39    43
    Deoxys Speed    24    30    31    39    43
    Venomoth        24    29    32    39    43
    Infernape       24    29    32    39    43
    Drapion         24    29    32    39    43
    Carnivine       24    29    32    39    43
    Camerupt        24    29    32    39    43
    Toxicroak       23    28    32    39    43
    Corsola         24    30    31    39    42
    Alakazam        24    30    31    39    42
    Tauros          23    29    32    39    42
    Azelf           23    29    32    39    42
    Wartortle       23    29    31    38    42
    Spoink          23    29    31    38    42
    Raichu          23    29    31    38    42
    Prinplup        23    29    31    38    42
    Parasect        23    29    31    38    42
    Metang          23    29    31    38    42
    Marowak         23    29    31    38    42
    Ivysaur         23    29    31    38    42
    Electrode       23    29    31    38    42
    Butterfree      23    29    31    38    42
    Bayleef         23    29    31    38    42
    Arbok           23    29    31    38    42
    Golem           23    28    32    38    42
    Volbeat         23    28    31    38    42
    Porygon         23    28    31    38    42
    Illumise        23    28    31    38    42
    Shiftry         23    27    32    38    42
    Granbull        23    27    32    38    42
    Donphan         23    27    32    38    42
    Torkoal         23    28    31    38    41
    Pupitar         23    28    31    38    41
    Omastar         23    28    31    38    41
    Marshtomp       23    28    31    38    41
    Lucario         23    28    31    38    41
    Froslass        23    28    31    38    41
    Castform        23    28    31    38    41
    Steelix         22    27    31    37    41
    Grotle          22    27    31    37    41
    Ambipom         22    27    31    37    41
    Honchkrow       22    26    32    38    41
    Plusle          22    28    30    37    40
    Medicham        22    28    30    37    40
    Gloom           22    28    30    37    40
    Gengar          22    28    30    37    40
    Xatu            22    27    30    37    40
    Weezing         22    27    30    37    40
    Stantler        22    27    30    37    40
    Skarmory        22    27    30    37    40
    Seel            22    27    30    37    40
    Primeape        22    27    30    37    40
    Pinsir          22    27    30    37    40
    Roselia         22    27    29    36    40
    Magcargo        22    27    29    36    40
    Victreebel      21    26    30    36    40
    Shellos         21    26    30    36    40
    Machoke         21    26    30    36    40
    Linoone         21    26    30    36    40
    Bibarel         21    26    30    36    40
    Sudowoodo       21    26    29    36    40
    Solrock         21    26    29    36    40
    Girafarig       21    26    29    36    40
    Clefairy        21    26    29    36    40
    Tangrowth       21    25    31    37    40
    Rampardos       21    25    31    36    40
    Yanmega         21    25    30    36    40
    Sneasel         21    27    29    36    39
    Huntail         21    27    29    36    39
    Gorebyss        21    27    29    36    39
    Dragonair       21    26    29    36    39
    Pelipper        21    26    29    35    39
    Lombre          21    26    29    35    39
    Kabutops        21    26    29    35    39
    Rotom           21    26    28    35    39
    Furret          21    25    30    36    39
    Forretress      21    25    29    35    39
    Rhydon          20    24    30    36    39
    Wynaut          20    24    30    35    39
    Wailmer         19    23    31    36    39
    Persian         21    25    28    35    38
    Leafeon         21    25    28    35    38
    Gligar          21    25    28    35    38
    Zangoose        20    25    29    35    38
    Seviper         20    25    29    35    38
    Mightyena       20    25    28    34    38
    Manectric       20    25    28    34    38
    Flaaffy         20    25    28    34    38
    Croconaw        20    25    28    34    38
    Cacturne        20    25    28    34    38
    Banette         20    25    28    34    38
    Ariados         20    25    28    34    38
    Aggron          20    25    28    34    38
    Raticate        20    25    27    34    38
    Vigoroth        20    24    29    35    38
    Purugly         20    24    28    34    38
    Chinchou        20    24    28    34    38
    Nosepass        20    26    26    34    37
    Swablu          20    25    26    34    37
    Ledyba          20    25    26    34    37
    Quilava         20    24    27    34    37
    Fearow          20    24    27    34    37
    Charmeleon      20    24    27    34    37
    Sandslash       19    24    28    34    37
    Absol           19    24    27    33    37
    Staraptor       19    23    28    34    37
    Floatzel        19    23    28    34    37
    Shieldon        20    26    25    33    36
    Skiploom        19    24    26    33    36
    Magneton        19    24    26    33    36
    Eevee           19    24    26    33    36
    Nidorina        19    23    27    33    36
    Kricketune      19    23    27    33    36
    Grimer          19    23    27    33    36
    Delcatty        19    23    27    33    36
    Gabite          19    23    26    33    36
    Spinda          19    23    26    32    36
    Snover          19    23    26    32    36
    Shroomish       19    23    26    32    36
    Dodrio          19    23    26    32    36
    Combusken       19    23    26    32    36
    Breloom         19    23    26    32    36
    Drifloon        18    22    27    33    36
    Sableye         18    23    25    32    35
    Ponyta          18    23    25    32    35
    Grovyle         18    23    25    32    35
    Farfetch'd      18    23    25    31    35
    Qwilfish        18    22    26    32    35
    Gulpin          18    22    26    32    35
    Crawdaunt       18    22    26    32    35
    Loudred         17    21    26    31    35
    Mime Jr.        18    24    23    31    34
    Duskull         18    24    23    31    34
    Kadabra         18    23    24    31    34
    Budew           18    23    24    31    34
    Baltoy          18    23    24    31    34
    Nidorino        18    22    25    31    34
    Hoothoot        18    22    25    31    34
    Smoochum        18    22    24    31    34
    Oddish          18    22    24    31    34
    Chikorita       18    22    24    31    34
    Bulbasaur       18    22    24    31    34
    Venonat         17    22    25    31    34
    Finneon         17    22    24    31    34
    Spheal          17    21    26    31    34
    Mothim          17    21    26    31    34
    Marill          17    21    26    31    34
    Monferno        17    21    25    31    34
    Slowpoke        17    20    26    31    34
    Phanpy          17    20    26    31    34
    Squirtle        17    22    24    30    33
    Luvdisc         17    22    24    30    33
    Dugtrio         17    22    23    30    33
    Shelgon         17    21    25    30    33
    Poliwhirl       17    21    25    30    33
    Turtwig         17    21    24    30    33
    Piplup          17    21    24    30    33
    Pidgeotto       17    21    24    30    33
    Buneary         17    21    24    30    33
    Aipom           17    21    24    30    33
    Chatot          16    20    25    30    33
    Ninjask         16    20    24    30    33
    Vulpix          16    21    23    29    32
    Teddiursa       16    20    24    30    32
    Swellow         16    20    24    30    32
    Lairon          16    20    24    30    32
    Beautifly       16    20    24    30    32
    Luxio           16    20    24    29    32
    Mawile          16    20    23    29    32
    Cleffa          16    20    23    29    32
    Yanma           16    19    23    29    32
    Weepinbell      16    19    23    29    32
    Jigglypuff      15    17    25    30    32
    Togepi          16    21    22    29    31
    Kingler         16    20    23    29    31
    Growlithe       16    20    23    29    31
    Beldum          16    20    22    28    31
    Magby           15    20    22    28    31
    Haunter         15    20    22    28    31
    Elekid          15    20    22    28    31
    Numel           15    19    23    28    31
    Hippopotas      15    19    23    28    31
    Exeggcute       15    19    23    28    31
    Sharpedo        15    18    23    28    31
    Nuzleaf         15    18    23    28    31
    Vibrava         15    19    22    28    30
    Snorunt         15    19    22    28    30
    Psyduck         15    19    22    28    30
    Mudkip          15    19    22    28    30
    Larvitar        15    19    22    28    30
    Deoxys Balanced 15    19    22    28    30
    Cubone          15    19    22    28    30
    Cherubi         15    19    22    28    30
    Voltorb         15    19    21    27    30
    Treecko         15    19    21    27    30
    Skorupi         15    19    21    27    30
    Gible           15    18    22    28    30
    Totodile        15    18    22    27    30
    Tangela         14    18    22    27    30
    Stunky          14    18    22    27    30
    Smeargle        14    18    22    27    30
    Seadra          14    18    22    27    30
    Murkrow         14    18    22    27    30
    Mareep          14    18    22    27    30
    Graveler        14    18    22    27    30
    Kirlia          15    19    21    27    29
    Unown           14    18    21    27    29
    Torchic         14    18    21    27    29
    Houndour        14    18    21    27    29
    Goldeen         14    18    21    27    29
    Ditto           14    18    21    27    29
    Chingling       14    18    21    27    29
    Anorith         14    18    21    27    29
    Surskit         14    18    21    26    29
    Cloyster        14    18    21    26    29
    Bonsly          14    18    21    26    29
    Paras           14    18    20    26    29
    Omanyte         14    18    20    26    29
    Hoppip          14    18    20    26    29
    Dratini         14    18    20    26    29
    Clamperl        14    18    20    26    29
    Machop          14    17    22    27    29
    Snubbull        14    17    21    27    29
    Bidoof          14    17    21    26    29
    Rhyhorn         13    16    22    26    29
    Lotad           14    18    20    26    28
    Ekans           14    18    20    26    28
    Cyndaquil       14    18    20    26    28
    Charmander      14    18    20    26    28
    Staryu          13    18    19    25    28
    Meditite        13    18    19    25    28
    Staravia        13    17    21    26    28
    Nidoran F       13    17    21    26    28
    Trapinch        13    17    20    25    28
    Delibird        13    17    20    25    28
    Barboach        13    16    20    25    28
    Makuhita        13    15    21    25    28
    Chimchar        13    17    20    25    27
    Magnemite       13    17    18    24    27
    Abra            13    17    18    24    27
    Slakoth         13    16    20    25    27
    Cacnea          13    16    20    25    27
    Azurill         13    16    20    25    27
    Aron            13    16    20    25    27
    Natu            13    16    19    25    27
    Mankey          13    16    19    25    27
    Koffing         13    16    19    25    27
    Croagunk        13    16    19    25    27
    Burmy           13    16    19    25    27
    Nidoran M       12    16    19    24    27
    Cranidos        12    15    20    25    27
    Igglybuff       11    13    20    24    27
    Sentret         12    16    18    24    26
    Onix            12    16    18    24    26
    Feebas          12    16    17    23    26
    Skitty          12    15    19    24    26
    Pineco          12    15    19    24    26
    Glameow         12    15    19    24    26
    Zigzagoon       12    15    18    23    26
    Zubat           12    15    18    23    25
    Spinarak        12    15    18    23    25
    Slugma          12    15    18    23    25
    Riolu           12    15    18    23    25
    Poliwag         12    15    18    23    25
    Meowth          12    15    18    23    25
    Kricketot       12    15    18    23    25
    Electrike       12    15    18    23    25
    Kabuto          12    15    17    23    25
    Pikachu         11    15    17    22    25
    Buizel          11    14    18    23    25
    Shinx           11    14    18    22    25
    Corphish        11    14    18    22    25
    Shuppet         11    14    17    22    24
    Pidgey          11    14    17    22    24
    Combee          11    14    17    22    24
    Swinub          11    13    18    22    24
    Sandshrew       11    13    18    22    24
    Bellsprout      11    13    18    22    24
    Whismur         10    12    18    22    24
    Wurmple         10    13    17    21    23
    Bagon           10    13    17    21    23
    Tyrogue         10    13    16    21    23
    Spearow         10    13    16    21    23
    Remoraid        10    13    16    21    23
    Doduo           10    13    16    21    23
    Wooper          10    12    17    21    23
    Wingull         10    12    16    21    23
    Taillow         10    12    16    21    23
    Starly          10    12    16    21    23
    Seedot          10    12    16    21    23
    Geodude         10    12    16    21    23
    Rattata         10    13    16    20    22
    Gastly          10    13    16    20    22
    Ralts           10    13    15    20    22
    Silcoon         9     12    16    21    23
    Metapod         9     12    16    21    23
    Cascoon         9     12    16    21    23
    Kakuna          9     12    16    20    22
    Poochyena       9     12    15    20    22
    Diglett         9     13    14    19    21
    Sunkern         9     12    15    19    21
    Nincada         9     12    15    19    21
    Pichu           9     12    14    19    21
    Deoxys Attack   8     11    15    19    21
    Caterpie        8     10    15    19    20
    Carvanha        8     10    15    19    20
    Weedle          8     10    14    18    20
    Shellder        8     10    14    18    20
    Krabby          8     10    14    18    20
    Horsea          8     10    14    18    20
    Magikarp        6     8     12    16    17
    Everyone's Attack in SkarmPoints: (0 EVs, 252 Atk EVs, 252 Atk +Nature)
    Code:
    Deoxys Attack   239  277  305
    Rampardos       221  259  285
    Slaking         215  253  278
    Regigigas       215  253  278
    Rayquaza        203  241  265
    Groudon         203  241  265
    Deoxys Balanced 203  241  265
    Rhyperior       191  229  251
    Salamence       185  223  245
    Metagross       185  223  245
    Tyranitar       184  222  244
    Dragonite       184  222  244
    Ursaring        179  217  238
    Scizor          179  217  238
    Rhydon          179  217  238
    Mamoswine       179  217  238
    Machamp         179  217  238
    Kingler         179  217  238
    Ho-oh           179  217  238
    Garchomp        179  217  238
    Flareon         179  217  238
    Breloom         179  217  238
    Absol           179  217  238
    Pinsir          173  211  232
    Honchkrow       173  211  232
    Heracross       173  211  232
    Gyarados        173  211  232
    Gallade         173  211  232
    Cranidos        173  211  232
    Azelf           173  211  232
    Armaldo         173  211  232
    Electivire      170  209  229
    Weavile         167  205  225
    Staraptor       167  205  225
    Sharpedo        167  205  225
    Palkia          167  205  225
    Luxray          167  205  225
    Hitmonlee       167  205  225
    Hariyama        167  205  225
    Granbull        167  205  225
    Donphan         167  205  225
    Dialga          167  205  225
    Crawdaunt       167  205  225
    Blaziken        167  205  225
    Arceus          167  205  225
    Zangoose        161  199  218
    Kabutops        161  199  218
    Entei           161  199  218
    Cacturne        161  199  218
    Banette         161  199  218
    Hippowdon       157  195  215
    Swampert        155  193  212
    Snorlax         155  193  212
    Scyther         155  193  212
    Mewtwo          155  193  212
    Lucario         155  193  212
    Leafeon         155  193  212
    Golem           155  193  212
    Dodrio          155  193  212
    Arcanine        155  193  212
    Aggron          155  193  212
    Torterra        154  192  210
    Toxicroak       150  188  207
    Victreebel      149  187  205
    Primeape        149  187  205
    Octillery       149  187  205
    Muk             149  187  205
    Mesprit         149  187  205
    Krabby          149  187  205
    Hitmonchan      149  187  205
    Floatzel        149  187  205
    Feraligatr      149  187  205
    Aerodactyl      149  187  205
    Infernape       148  186  204
    Huntail         148  186  204
    Trapinch        143  181  198
    Tauros          143  181  198
    Tangrowth       143  181  198
    Sudowoodo       143  181  198
    Shiftry         143  181  198
    Shaymin         143  181  198
    Seviper         143  181  198
    Sandslash       143  181  198
    Regirock        143  181  198
    Rapidash        143  181  198
    Piloswine       143  181  198
    Moltres         143  181  198
    Mew             143  181  198
    Manaphy         143  181  198
    Machoke         143  181  198
    Kyogre          143  181  198
    Jirachi         143  181  198
    Giratina        143  181  198
    Flygon          143  181  198
    Dusknoir        143  181  198
    Celebi          143  181  198
    Carnivine       143  181  198
    Camerupt        143  181  198
    Ambipom         143  181  198
    Stantler        137  175  192
    Solrock         137  175  192
    Sneasel         137  175  192
    Shelgon         137  175  192
    Qwilfish        137  175  192
    Parasect        137  175  192
    Magmortar       137  175  192
    Magmar          137  175  192
    Kingdra         137  175  192
    Kangaskhan      137  175  192
    Hitmontop       137  175  192
    Graveler        137  175  192
    Gliscor         137  175  192
    Exeggutor       137  175  192
    Deoxys Speed    137  175  192
    Cloyster        137  175  192
    Anorith         137  175  192
    Mothim          135  174  190
    Skuntank        134  172  189
    Spiritomb       133  171  188
    Seaking         133  171  188
    Nidoking        133  171  188
    Abomasnow       133  171  188
    Exploud         132  170  187
    Zapdos          131  169  185
    Weezing         131  169  185
    Weepinbell      131  169  185
    Wailord         131  169  185
    Shedinja        131  169  185
    Relicanth       131  169  185
    Raichu          131  169  185
    Ninjask         131  169  185
    Mightyena       131  169  185
    Lugia           131  169  185
    Latios          131  169  185
    Lairon          131  169  185
    Kecleon         131  169  185
    Houndoom        131  169  185
    Heatran         131  169  185
    Gabite          131  169  185
    Forretress      131  169  185
    Fearow          131  169  185
    Drapion         131  169  185
    Darkrai         131  169  185
    Crobat          131  169  185
    Carvanha        131  169  185
    Ariados         131  169  185
    Grotle          129  167  184
    Bronzong        129  167  184
    Empoleon        126  164  180
    Torkoal         125  163  178
    Swellow         125  163  178
    Steelix         125  163  178
    Sceptile        125  163  178
    Rhyhorn         125  163  178
    Raikou          125  163  178
    Quagsire        125  163  178
    Ponyta          125  163  178
    Poliwrath       125  163  178
    Murkrow         125  163  178
    Munchlax        125  163  178
    Mawile          125  163  178
    Marshtomp       125  163  178
    Luxio           125  163  178
    Lickilicky      125  163  178
    Lapras          125  163  178
    Kricketune      125  163  178
    Doduo           125  163  178
    Combusken       125  163  178
    Cacnea          125  163  178
    Bibarel         125  163  178
    Articuno        125  163  178
    Arbok           125  163  178
    Typhlosion      123  161  177
    Pupitar         123  161  177
    Gorebyss        123  161  177
    Dragonair       123  161  177
    Charizard       123  161  177
    Gastrodon       122  160  176
    Electabuzz      122  160  176
    Blastoise       122  160  176
    Venusaur        121  159  175
    Purugly         121  159  175
    Nidoqueen       121  159  175
    Meganium        121  159  175
    Golduck         121  159  175
    Raticate        120  158  174
    Cradily         120  158  174
    Walrein         118  157  172
    Vileplume       118  157  172
    Vigoroth        118  157  172
    Vespiquen       118  157  172
    Teddiursa       118  157  172
    Snubbull        118  157  172
    Skarmory        118  157  172
    Porygon-Z       118  157  172
    Porygon2        118  157  172
    Pidgeot         118  157  172
    Phione          118  157  172
    Miltank         118  157  172
    Marowak         118  157  172
    Mankey          118  157  172
    Machop          118  157  172
    Latias          118  157  172
    Kabuto          118  157  172
    Grimer          118  157  172
    Golbat          118  157  172
    Glalie          118  157  172
    Girafarig       118  157  172
    Geodude         118  157  172
    Froslass        118  157  172
    Dugtrio         118  157  172
    Drifblim        118  157  172
    Croconaw        118  157  172
    Corphish        118  157  172
    Bonsly          118  157  172
    Bellossom       118  157  172
    Beedrill        118  157  172
    Wormadam Ground 117  155  170
    Whiscash        116  154  169
    Monferno        116  154  169
    Yanmega         114  152  167
    Ninetales       114  152  167
    Lopunny         114  152  167
    Furret          114  152  167
    Xatu            112  151  165
    Uxie            112  151  165
    Sunflora        112  151  165
    Suicune         112  151  165
    Starmie         112  151  165
    Staravia        112  151  165
    Slowking        112  151  165
    Slowbro         112  151  165
    Shuppet         112  151  165
    Sandshrew       112  151  165
    Sableye         112  151  165
    Registeel       112  151  165
    Politoed        112  151  165
    Metang          112  151  165
    Manectric       112  151  165
    Magby           112  151  165
    Gligar          112  151  165
    Bellsprout      112  151  165
    Bagon           112  151  165
    Ampharos        112  151  165
    Volbeat         110  148  163
    Swalot          110  148  163
    Hypno           110  148  163
    Unown           109  147  161
    Nidorino        109  147  161
    Hippopotas      109  147  161
    Loudred         108  146  160
    Wigglytuff      106  144  158
    Wailmer         106  144  158
    Vibrava         106  144  158
    Tentacruel      106  144  158
    Roserade        106  144  158
    Riolu           106  144  158
    Persian         106  144  158
    Paras           106  144  158
    Nuzleaf         106  144  158
    Mudkip          106  144  158
    Magnezone       106  144  158
    Ludicolo        106  144  158
    Linoone         106  144  158
    Growlithe       106  144  158
    Gible           106  144  158
    Dusclops        106  144  158
    Dunsparce       106  144  158
    Dewgong         106  144  158
    Deoxys Defense  106  144  158
    Cresselia       106  144  158
    Clefable        106  144  158
    Claydol         106  144  158
    Castform        106  144  158
    Beautifly       106  144  158
    Aron            106  144  158
    Altaria         106  144  158
    Aipom           106  144  158
    Wormadam Steel  105  143  157
    Lumineon        105  143  157
    Turtwig         104  142  156
    Tropius         104  142  156
    Goldeen         103  141  155
    Prinplup        102  140  154
    Buneary         102  140  154
    Yanma           100  138  152
    Venomoth        100  138  152
    Vaporeon        100  138  152
    Umbreon         100  138  152
    Totodile        100  138  152
    Slowpoke        100  138  152
    Shinx           100  138  152
    Shellder        100  138  152
    Seadra          100  138  152
    Remoraid        100  138  152
    Poliwhirl       100  138  152
    Pineco          100  138  152
    Koffing         100  138  152
    Jolteon         100  138  152
    Grovyle         100  138  152
    Gloom           100  138  152
    Gengar          100  138  152
    Gardevoir       100  138  152
    Farfetch'd      100  138  152
    Espeon          100  138  152
    Delcatty        100  138  152
    Chatot          100  138  152
    Buizel          100  138  152
    Quilava         99   137  151
    Larvitar        99   137  151
    Dratini         99   137  151
    Clamperl        99   137  151
    Charmeleon      99   137  151
    Wartortle       98   136  149
    Stunky          98   136  149
    Elekid          98   136  149
    Snover          97   135  148
    Nidorina        97   135  148
    Ivysaur         97   135  148
    Bayleef         97   135  148
    Croagunk        96   134  147
    Torchic         94   132  145
    Spinda          94   132  145
    Spinarak        94   132  145
    Spearow         94   132  145
    Slakoth         94   132  145
    Sealeo          94   132  145
    Roselia         94   132  145
    Porygon         94   132  145
    Pidgeotto       94   132  145
    Phanpy          94   132  145
    Omastar         94   132  145
    Numel           94   132  145
    Mismagius       94   132  145
    Misdreavus      94   132  145
    Milotic         94   132  145
    Medicham        94   132  145
    Masquerain      94   132  145
    Makuhita        94   132  145
    Magneton        94   132  145
    Houndour        94   132  145
    Glaceon         94   132  145
    Ekans           94   132  145
    Cherrim         94   132  145
    Wormadam Grass  93   131  144
    Lanturn         92   130  143
    Chimchar        92   130  143
    Nidoran M       91   129  141
    Rattata         89   128  140
    Venonat         88   126  138
    Tangela         88   126  138
    Taillow         88   126  138
    Starly          88   126  138
    Probopass       88   126  138
    Poochyena       88   126  138
    Pikachu         88   126  138
    Lunatone        88   126  138
    Lickitung       88   126  138
    Jumpluff        88   126  138
    Glameow         88   126  138
    Flaaffy         88   126  138
    Eevee           88   126  138
    Diglett         88   126  138
    Delibird        88   126  138
    Corsola         88   126  138
    Beldum          88   126  138
    Psyduck         85   123  135
    Cyndaquil       85   123  135
    Charmander      85   123  135
    Bastiodon       85   123  135
    Whismur         83   122  134
    Piplup          83   122  134
    Togekiss        82   120  132
    Swinub          82   120  132
    Snorunt         82   120  132
    Skorupi         82   120  132
    Rotom           82   120  132
    Regice          82   120  132
    Poliwag         82   120  132
    Plusle          82   120  132
    Pelipper        82   120  132
    Oddish          82   120  132
    Noctowl         82   120  132
    Natu            82   120  132
    Magcargo        82   120  132
    Lombre          82   120  132
    Jynx            82   120  132
    Haunter         82   120  132
    Electrode       82   120  132
    Dustox          82   120  132
    Drifloon        82   120  132
    Cubone          82   120  132
    Chimecho        82   120  132
    Azumarill       82   120  132
    Alakazam        82   120  132
    Finneon         81   119  131
    Chikorita       81   119  131
    Bulbasaur       81   119  131
    Squirtle        80   118  129
    Shellos         80   118  129
    Drowzee         80   118  129
    Ditto           80   118  129
    Barboach        80   118  129
    Nidoran F       79   117  128
    Illumise        79   117  128
    Sentret         77   115  127
    Zubat           76   114  125
    Wurmple         76   114  125
    Wooper          76   114  125
    Treecko         76   114  125
    Staryu          76   114  125
    Skitty          76   114  125
    Skiploom        76   114  125
    Seel            76   114  125
    Pidgey          76   114  125
    Pachirisu       76   114  125
    Onix            76   114  125
    Nosepass        76   114  125
    Nincada         76   114  125
    Mr. Mime        76   114  125
    Meowth          76   114  125
    Jigglypuff      76   114  125
    Grumpig         76   114  125
    Electrike       76   114  125
    Clefairy        76   114  125
    Butterfree      76   114  125
    Bidoof          76   114  125
    Gulpin          74   112  123
    Shieldon        73   111  122
    Vulpix          71   109  120
    Lileep          71   109  120
    Togetic         70   108  118
    Tentacool       70   108  118
    Swablu          70   108  118
    Spheal          70   108  118
    Slugma          70   108  118
    Shroomish       70   108  118
    Seedot          70   108  118
    Pichu           70   108  118
    Omanyte         70   108  118
    Minun           70   108  118
    Meditite        70   108  118
    Mareep          70   108  118
    Mantine         70   108  118
    Horsea          70   108  118
    Exeggcute       70   108  118
    Duskull         70   108  118
    Baltoy          70   108  118
    Chinchou        68   106  116
    Weedle          64   102  112
    Tyrogue         64   102  112
    Silcoon         64   102  112
    Magnemite       64   102  112
    Ledian          64   102  112
    Kirlia          64   102  112
    Kadabra         64   102  112
    Hoppip          64   102  112
    Gastly          64   102  112
    Cherubi         64   102  112
    Cascoon         64   102  112
    Wobbuffet       62   100  109
    Zigzagoon       58   96   105
    Wingull         58   96   105
    Voltorb         58   96   105
    Surskit         58   96   105
    Sunkern         58   96   105
    Smoochum        58   96   105
    Luvdisc         58   96   105
    Lotad           58   96   105
    Igglybuff       58   96   105
    Hoothoot        58   96   105
    Combee          58   96   105
    Chingling       58   96   105
    Caterpie        58   96   105
    Budew           58   96   105
    Burmy           57   95   104
    Spoink          52   90   99
    Ralts           52   90   99
    Mime Jr.        52   90   99
    Kricketot       52   90   99
    Kakuna          52   90   99
    Cleffa          52   90   99
    Bronzor         51   89   97
    Wynaut          50   88   96
    Togepi          46   84   92
    Smeargle        46   84   92
    Metapod         46   84   92
    Marill          46   84   92
    Mantyke         46   84   92
    Ledyba          46   84   92
    Azurill         46   84   92
    Abra            46   84   92
    Feebas          40   78   85
    Shuckle         34   72   79
    Magikarp        34   72   79
    Blissey         34   72   79
    Happiny         28   66   72
    Chansey         28   66   72
    Everyone's Sp. Attack in BlissPoints (0 EVs, 252 Sp. Atk EVs, 252 Sp. Atk +Nature)
    Code:
    Deoxys Attack   152  176  194
    Mewtwo          132  156  172
    Rayquaza        129  153  168
    Palkia          129  153  168
    Kyogre          129  153  168
    Dialga          129  153  168
    Deoxys Balanced 129  153  168
    Porygon-Z       118  142  156
    Darkrai         118  142  156
    Alakazam        118  142  156
    Magnezone       114  138  151
    Latios          114  138  151
    Heatran         114  138  151
    Glaceon         114  138  151
    Gengar          114  138  151
    Espeon          114  138  151
    Zapdos          110  134  147
    Roserade        110  134  147
    Moltres         110  134  147
    Magmortar       110  134  147
    Gardevoir       110  134  147
    Exeggutor       110  134  147
    Azelf           110  134  147
    Togekiss        106  130  143
    Magneton        106  130  143
    Kadabra         106  130  143
    Arceus          106  130  143
    Yanmega         103  127  140
    Raikou          102  126  139
    Omastar         102  126  139
    Lucario         102  126  139
    Jynx            102  126  139
    Haunter         102  126  139
    Cacturne        102  126  139
    Ampharos        102  126  139
    Gorebyss        101  126  138
    Empoleon        99   123  136
    Vaporeon        98   123  135
    Tangrowth       98   123  135
    Salamence       98   123  135
    Latias          98   123  135
    Jolteon         98   123  135
    Houndoom        98   123  135
    Ho-oh           98   123  135
    Blaziken        98   123  135
    Typhlosion      98   122  134
    Charizard       98   122  134
    Sunflora        95   119  130
    Sceptile        95   119  130
    Porygon2        95   119  130
    Octillery       95   119  130
    Mismagius       95   119  130
    Mesprit         95   119  130
    Manectric       95   119  130
    Honchkrow       95   119  130
    Camerupt        95   119  130
    Abra            95   119  130
    Infernape       94   118  130
    Vileplume       91   115  126
    Victreebel      91   115  126
    Venusaur        91   115  126
    Tangela         91   115  126
    Starmie         91   115  126
    Slowking        91   115  126
    Slowbro         91   115  126
    Shaymin         91   115  126
    Seviper         91   115  126
    Roselia         91   115  126
    Regice          91   115  126
    Mr. Mime        91   115  126
    Milotic         91   115  126
    Mew             91   115  126
    Manaphy         91   115  126
    Magmar          91   115  126
    Jirachi         91   115  126
    Groudon         91   115  126
    Giratina        91   115  126
    Gastly          91   115  126
    Dragonite       91   115  126
    Celebi          91   115  126
    Arcanine        91   115  126
    Xatu            87   111  122
    Walrein         87   111  122
    Tyranitar       87   111  122
    Slaking         87   111  122
    Sharpedo        87   111  122
    Seadra          87   111  122
    Rotom           87   111  122
    Metagross       87   111  122
    Magnemite       87   111  122
    Luxray          87   111  122
    Lunatone        87   111  122
    Kingdra         87   111  122
    Golduck         87   111  122
    Flareon         87   111  122
    Electivire      87   111  122
    Electabuzz      87   111  122
    Deoxys Speed    87   111  122
    Chimecho        87   111  122
    Articuno        87   111  122
    Mothim          86   110  121
    Huntail         86   110  121
    Spiritomb       85   109  120
    Gastrodon       85   109  120
    Chatot          85   109  120
    Abomasnow       85   109  120
    Exploud         84   108  119
    Wailord         83   107  118
    Venomoth        83   107  118
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  2. Yoko Rains

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  3. tarheels07

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    If this works, this would make everything sooo much easier. Thanks!
  4. merubin

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    You didn't read it. 0 EV Regirock is 94% of a fully EVd standard Skarmory.
  5. Portugeez

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    You are awesome.

    Best user that Smogon has.
  6. DougJustDoug

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    DT, you are a machine! This is really awesome stuff. Your tiers were good, but this is even better. Big props for all the research you do for simplifying damage and attack comparisons. I don't use them for damage calcs, since after playing for a while, most people develop a pretty good feel for their team and their effectiveness against most standard opponents. However, I think it is invaluable when considering a new team or replacing a member of an existing team.

    Also, I know you've gotten some flak for promoting the concepts behind your "tiers". Maybe not flak, per se... but let's just say some people have not received your ideas with a warm welcome. Ignore the haters. Even those that don't use your stats, have to respect the effort and dedication that went into them. Members like you make Smogon great.

    BTW, one thing I noticed in the stats is the SkarmCents line for Blissey. Many people ask "Why make Blissey Bold with Def EV's? Would it be better to invest in that monstrous Sp. Def?" For anyone who doesn't understand the logic behind max def Blissey, read the SkarmCents line for Blissey and notice the huge jump Blissey gets with investment in Def. That's why max def Blissey is the standard...
  7. Dragontamer

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    Oh yeah, I forgot to add. While I still prefer the logrithmic scale for the quick and easy calculations (dragon dance in Attack Tiers is +4.25. Dragon Dance in these are x1.5... and attack tiers still make it easy to calculate strange modifiers in your head), my next goal is to somehow integrate the logrithmic "Attack Tiers" and defense tiers into these. Maybe v0.3 when I figure out the right way to do it...

    Further, one complaint about Attack Tiers has been mitigated in these btw. EVs are easy to represent in this scale. Every 4 Atk evs are worth .605 SkarmPoints, and Every 4 Sp. Atk EVs is worth .384 BlissPoints.

    So for example: if you want to know how 252 Atk EVs will help you out, take your base pokemon (Garchomp's base is 179), then do 252 / 4 * .605 == ~38. So 179 + 38 == 217, as you can see on the table.
  8. Spaniard

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    Well, this seems to be the base of a new concept of teambuilding. Good job.

    However this is still a bit difficult to use, any ideas to exploit this in the OU metagame? Like, say, the following attaks for (some poke in your team): fit very well your team to deal the most damage to the standard pokes.

    If we take this seriously we may give an important step in the pro-game.
  9. Dragontamer

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    Old concept actually. Defense Tiers have been out for a few months (see sig)... I just hope that this system is easier to understand this time around.

    Hmm... in v0.3 I'll be sure to explain this better...

    1. Calculate the SkarmPoints or BlissPoints of your pokemon and its attack.
    2. Calculate how much it does to the standard Skarm or Standard Blissey.
    3. Every pokemon that has that value will be OHKOed.
    4. Every pokemon with 2x that value will be 2-hit KOed.

    Example: 252 Modest Glaceon has 151 BlissPoints of Sp. Atk. That means it deals 151 * 95 * 1.5 == 21517.5 == 21.5% damage to Blissey with Ice Beam, and 27% damage to standard Blissey with blizzard.

    I now look at the chart. Every pokemon with a 21 BlissCents or less has a chance to be OHKOed by Ice Beam. Below 43 BlissCents have a chance to be 2-hit KOed by Ice Beam. Hmm... doesn't seem like too many things are useful here.

    For blizzard, I can generate 27 and below and 54 and below respectively. Whats this? 252/252 Calm Dusknoir and Porygon2 is at 54 BlissCents? That means that max/max Dusknoir is 2-hit KOed by Glaceon. Ditto with Porygon2 (who is a pretty decent wall).

    I can multiply that by 1.5 again for specs, and see that Glaceon hits pretty high in this ladder. ~41 BlissCents worth of damage for Specs blizzard. Meaning... standard Bliss at 82% health is 2-hit KOed by Specs Glaceon Blizzard.

    Who is at 82 BlissCents of Sp. Def? Well... max/max +Nature Cresselia for one. (damn, thats some power)

    For those who are pessimists instead of optimists... you multiply by .85 to get the minimum damage. This gives ~35 BlissCents for Blizzard, and ~70 BlissCents for the guarenteed 2-hit KO.

    Interesting note: Max/Max Articuno is like 69 BlissCents, meaning it is 2-hit KOed by Glaceon Blizzard.
  10. david stone

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    If Leftovers are in play, however, you'll need to multiply each Pokemon's Cents by 1.0625 to factor in the healing for a 2HKO, or by 1.125 for a 3HKO, or, in general,

    1 + (.0625 * (x - 1))

    where x is the number of hits you intend to use to KO the Pokemon.

    In a Sandstorm / Hail, if they have Leftovers, then you have two options. You can either try to KO them outright (for instance, Weavile will want to do this vs. Garchomp), or you can just bring them into the KO range of the weather (Snorlax doesn't care if its Return kills you or the weather kills you, because it's not moving before your dude, anyway). In general, a KO to weather is the same as a direct KO if the attacker is slower than the defender, unless they will be healed with Wish the turn weather is supposed to KO, in which case only a direct KO will work (Wish heals before weather can damage).

    For a weather KO, then, you can multiply their Cents by .9375.
  11. cim

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    Cool! You forgot to double Medicham's Attack stat though, so it looks shitty.
  12. Spaniard

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    I didn't know this was an old concept. It's clear, I reckon, how it works. However, when I said difficult to use I meant creating a system that is fast and flexible and aims at the metagame, like creating goups of pokes, specific ev's or anything you think that would be useful.

    To use this as given (no criticizing, it's a remarkable job) is a bit slow, needs a lot of supervision and we'll make some mistakes because you have to analise every poke, choose moves, analise again, make corrections, new analysis,...
  13. X-Act

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    Fixed. Your examples always compared to Skarm or Bliss, and, in your examples, you didn't divide by 100 (their Skarmcents and Blisscents respectively). So you actually need to drop the last digit.

    Great effort though!
  14. Dragontamer

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    Actually... no, I think you mean I need to drop 2 more digits. Afterall, DD Gyarados doesn't do 4176 % Damage to Skarmory, but instead does .41 damage. :-p

    And then I decided, why not follow through with your suggestion and remove decimal points entirely? So, from there, multiply that by 100 and you get 41 SkarmCents of Damage. (Short for: Standard Skarm % Damage).
  15. X-Act

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    Maybe I'm not understanding how this works correctly, then.

    Let me go through an example.

    Suppose I have 252 Atk Garchomp against 252/252 Slowbro with +Def nature using Earthquake.

    Garchomp has 217 Skarmpoints. Slowbro has 99 Skarmcents.

    217 / 99 = 2.19. Figuring out Earthquake with STAB, 2.19 x 100 x 1.5 = 328.79. Hence Garchomp would do 32 Skarmcents of damage, not 0.79 (?).

    Or maybe I'm doing something wrong.
  16. DougJustDoug

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    I'll try to answer for DT, and hopefully educate myself in the process.

    In your example, you made the mistake of dividing Chomp's skarmpoints by Slobro's skarmcents. That's throwing your calc off. The process is this:

    1) Figure out how much damage Garchomp does to a standard Skarmory
    2) Figure out how Slowbro compares to the standard Skarmory.

    In this case, Garchomp's EQ does ~32% to a standard Skarmory (not really, since Skarm is immune, but you know what I mean).

    217 * 100 * 1.5 = 32550 / 1000 = 32.55

    Next, since Slowbro has 99 skarmcents, that means it takes 99% of the damage of a standard Skarmory. Which, in this case is still roughly 32%.

    I checked with MK's damage calculator, and it's spot on! This is great stuff, DT...
  17. X-Act

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    Okay, I understand it better now.

    Interestingly enough, my method will still get to the same answer, lol. Instead of dividing by 99 at the end, I'm doing it at the start.
  18. DougJustDoug

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    Yeah. A series of mutiplication and division operations are commutative. So the order of operations are mathematically irrelevant. On a subjective level, I prefer to think in the terms I described, but everyone will have their own "natural" interpretation.
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    aside from the fact that you beat me 1-0 with 5% left on walrein in summer freedom last year, you are my hero MoP...
  20. SHUCKLE MAN

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    Great work! If only we were all like you.
  21. scorchedsky

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    This is great! Have you posted the actual formula in calculating them, though? I don't see it anywhere in your post...
  22. Dragontamer

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    Oh, didn't expect anyone to want them.

    Its quite simple. It is

    100*HP * Sp. Defense / (714 * 306) == BlissCents
    100*HP * Defense / (334 * 416) == SkarmCents

    714 is the HP of a Standard Blissey. 306 is the Sp. Def of a standard blissey.

    Similarly, 334 is the HP of standard Skarm, and 416 is Defense.

    And... for SkarmPoints it is:
    42*100*1000*Atk / (50 * 334 * 416);

    The 42 and the 50 come from the damage formula. BlissPoints is:
    42*100*1000*Sp. Atk / (714 * 306);
  23. junior

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    Wow, this must've taken you a heck of a long time. Good job though. =D
  24. Pikachu of Doom

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    Divide the Skarm/BlissPoints by 10.

    It would mean a pokemon with 15 SkarmPoints using EQ on Skarm would do 15% damage.
  25. Flash_gearz

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    Just to cerify, the Points are assuming that the attack is nutral?(sorry, can't spell tonight)

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