Yay!Aha. Time to finally release the OU and UU lists! :)
Haha, Magikarp pwns Feebas YET AGAIN XDOrigionally Posted by Fat OU Usage
| 264 | Magikarp | 206 | 0.03 |
| 267 | Feebas | 197 | 0.03 |
I'm so chuffed with this;Ludicolo is so underrated in Ubers, especially with all those Kyogre running around. He can LeechStall Teams to death, as they probably aren't repared for him :DOrigionally posted by Fat Ubers Usage
31 | Ludicolo | 772 | 3.12 |
Glad to see that someone else is a fan of Spikes Qwilfish, though I personally prefer Taunt + Destiny Bond over all-out attacks. In addition to Milotic, it is more fun to set up Spikes on common SubPunchers, then take them out whilst they think they are safe behind their Sub, or end up poisoning themselves. Water / Poison typing is really, really good for resistances.Oh, on topic I can see a huge, huge rise in Qwilfish usage, as it's 5HKOed by Milo's Surf and meanwhile can set up Spikes, while it has great offensive coverage in Water + Poison + Boom...
Sword Dance Scizor isn't as good as SD Lucario or SD Infernape. Steel isn't a good attaking type and Scizor's low speed prevent him from sweeping teams.And what about Swords Dance Scizor?
But one month, Blissey was the 3rd most used in Ubers, and she clearly does not need to be banned!Another thing that indicates prossible brokeness is the fact that Scizor is number 7 in Ubers, higher than any non-Uber has ever been. If Ubers is a banlist for those pokemon too powerful for OU, how come Scizor is so used, over these 'Too powerful for OU' pokemon?
Once we get further with the testing, and now that we've seen what is probably the last set of major changes to DPP battling with the new moves from HGSS, we probably won't be seeing such large fluctuations in UU in a years time.I think it is an interesting prospect of 'freezing' the UU metagame for a period of time as it seems rather unsettled. Just as a new threat emerges, even more threats come down from OU to rock the tier and the metagame has no real time to stabalise. I personally think it is good that UU constantly has more and more threats coming down from OU and plenty of changes to the metagame but if the metagame becomes tooo unstable then pokemon that come down from OU could be considered being put in to BL for a time and then after a few months all the pokemon in BL who haven't been tested in UU yet get put in to UU so that there are less changes to the UU metagame. This also allows us to be sure of a pokemon's position before it is unnecessarily brought down to UU. For example if Alakazam received a lot of usage over these three months and was voted back OU then there was only a three month period where it was in UU for creating two further changes which need not have happened if its place was evaluated over a longer period of time thus allowing the metagame to remain more stable.
If you know someone with PR acess, this idea would best be submitted to them. Stabilizing the metagame can help in giving the players a better idea of what threats are broken (BL) and what threats are merely good (UU) in cases that are not as clear cut as Froslass, something that can be difficult to analyze with the constant metagame shifts. Roserade was incredibly popular in UU, and I expect that teams will be reeling from this change.I think it is an interesting prospect of 'freezing' the UU metagame for a period of time as it seems rather unsettled. Just as a new threat emerges, even more threats come down from OU to rock the tier and the metagame has no real time to stabalise. I personally think it is good that UU constantly has more and more threats coming down from OU and plenty of changes to the metagame but if the metagame becomes tooo unstable then pokemon that come down from OU could be considered being put in to BL for a time and then after a few months all the pokemon in BL who haven't been tested in UU yet get put in to UU so that there are less changes to the UU metagame. This also allows us to be sure of a pokemon's position before it is unnecessarily brought down to UU. For example if Alakazam received a lot of usage over these three months and was voted back OU then there was only a three month period where it was in UU for creating two further changes which need not have happened if its place was evaluated over a longer period of time thus allowing the metagame to remain more stable.
| Hippopotas | Move | Stealth Rock | 98.9 |
| Hippopotas | Move | Earthquake | 56.2 |
| Hippopotas | Move | Yawn | 51.2 |
| Hippopotas | Move | Toxic | 42.2 |
| Hippopotas | Move | Roar | 40.3 |
| Hippopotas | Move | Protect | 36.0 |
| Hippopotas | Move | Slack Off | 34.7 |
| Hippopotas | Move | Crunch | 17.2 |
| Hippopotas | Move | Body Slam | 10.9 |
| Hippopotas | Move | Rock Slide | 7.1 |
| Hippopotas | Move | Superpower | 2.8 |
| Hippowdon | Move | Earthquake | 93.1 |
| Hippowdon | Move | Slack Off | 91.1 |
| Hippowdon | Move | Stealth Rock | 71.3 |
| Hippowdon | Move | Roar | 58.4 |
| Hippowdon | Move | Ice Fang | 23.4 |
| Hippowdon | Move | Stone Edge | 12.9 |
| Hippowdon | Move | Stockpile | 12.7 |
| Hippowdon | Move | Toxic | 8.7 |
| Hippowdon | Move | Crunch | 6.2 |
| Hippowdon | Move | Yawn | 5.2 |
Disappointed in this.Lead usage said:| 56 | Blissey | 2034 | 0.26 |
Sciz in 7th and Forry ahead of Garchomp in terms of Ubers usage? Suddenly, I can see why random HP Fires and Flamethrowers are becoming very attractive in Ubers.Ubers Usage Stats said:| 7 | Scizor | 7151 | 28.90 |
| 10 | Forretress | 4768 | 19.27|
It has a ridiculously powerful priority move, one that can 2HKO a majority of pokemon. The fact that Scizor isn't even subject to Speed woes, the way Garchomp or even the DD users are, is an even greater advantage in the realm of sweeping. What about its utility as a scout via U-Turn? Its defensive prowess? (Scizor won't tank like Gyarados or Tyranitar but it's acceptably sturdy, is Steel typed, and learns Roost.) Those are great strengths! The fact Scizor just so happens to counter many other major threats is also a strength even if it's metagame-dependent.Yes, I don't think Scizor is Uber. The difference between Garchomp and Scizor was that Garchomp was used directly as a result of his own power - he was used because he was incredibly powerful (that said, I'm one the Garchomp to OU thinkers, I don't think he was too powerful). Scizor is used as a result of everything else's power - he happens to counter a lot of major threats extremely well. It isn't directly correlated to his own strength.
Both Hippopotas and Hippowdon are physically defensive pokemon used primarily for their Sand Stream. The only reason Hippopotas sees more usage of passive damage and status moves is because Hippopotas can't support direct attacking moves the way Hippowdon can with its much high base Attack. Protect is mostly a support move designed to aid Toxic or Yawn but it could also be because Hippopotas lacks Hippowdon's Defense/HP (though it is still good) and isn't as capable of out-healing incoming damage via Slack Off.I remember that some people were saying that allowing NFEs in lower tiers would cause 'OU-lite'-edness, but, this is obviously not the case in some examples. Hippopotas uses very different strategies to Hippowdon, as you can see below: ...
I lol'd.Sword Dance Scizor isn't as good as SD Lucario or SD Infernape. Steel isn't a good attaking type and Scizor's low speed prevent him from sweeping teams.
I can see why, dragon attacks are everywhere in ubers. They're far more common than they are even in ou. Also, with Deoxys-e able to set-up at least 2 layers of entry hazards against any lead that isn't designed specifically to beat it, having a spinner is really helpful for a lot of teams, and forry faces no competition as far as spinning goesSciz in 7th and Forry ahead of Garchomp in terms of Ubers usage? Suddenly, I can see why random HP Fires and Flamethrowers are becoming very attractive in Ubers.