1. New to the forums? Check out our Mentorship Program!
    Our mentors will answer your questions and help you become a part of the community!
  2. Welcome to Smogon Forums! Please take a minute to read the rules.

Smogon VGC 2012 - Usage stats

Discussion in 'VGC' started by Alakapimp, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. Alakapimp

    Alakapimp All washed up
    is a Tournament Director Alumnusis a Super Moderator Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnus

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2008
    Messages:
    3,113
    Usage stats for the first 4 rounds of the tournament, I decided to omit the last couple rounds to avoid giving any hint about opposing teams. These were automatically generated out of the team submissions, and that feature is now available for any tournament using the team submission site.

    [pimg]376[/pimg]1. Metagross - 45.63% - 162
    [pimg]237[/pimg]2. Hitmontop - 38.31% - 136
    [pimg]145[/pimg]3. Zapdos - 34.93% - 124
    [pimg]493[/pimg]4. Cresselia - 34.37% - 122
    [pimg]381[/pimg]5. Latios - 32.68% - 116
    [pimg]450[/pimg]6. Garchomp - 28.73% - 102
    [pimg]248[/pimg]7. Tyranitar - 27.32% - 97
    [pimg]639[/pimg]8. Chandelure - 21.97% - 78
    [pimg]503[/pimg]9. Rotom-W - 18.59% - 66
    [pimg]669[/pimg]10. Terrakion - 18.03% - 64
    Show Hide
    11. Abomasnow - 17.75% - 63
    12. Politoed - 14.08% - 50
    13. Thundurus - 12.39% - 44
    14. Scizor - 12.11% - 43
    15. Ludicolo - 11.27% - 40
    16. Volcarona - 10.7% - 38
    17. Gastrodon - 8.73% - 31
    18. Dragonite - 8.45% - 30
    19. Heatran - 7.89% - 28
    20. Suicune - 7.32% - 26
    21. Gyarados - 7.32% - 26
    22. Jellicent - 6.76% - 24
    23. Kingdra - 6.76% - 24
    24. Ferrothorn - 5.92% - 21
    25. Amoonguss - 5.63% - 20
    26. Toxicroak - 5.07% - 18
    27. Tornadus - 4.79% - 17
    28. Landorus - 4.79% - 17
    29. Sableye - 4.51% - 16
    30. Breloom - 4.51% - 16
    31. Weavile - 3.94% - 14
    32. Togekiss - 3.94% - 14
    33. Bisharp - 3.94% - 14
    34. Nidoking - 3.66% - 13
    35. Crobat - 3.66% - 13
    36. Rhyperior - 3.38% - 12
    37. Salamence - 3.38% - 12
    38. Mamoswine - 3.1% - 11
    39. Ninetales - 3.1% - 11
    40. Hydreigon - 2.82% - 10
    41. Reuniclus - 2.82% - 10
    42. Scrafty - 2.54% - 9
    43. Yanmega - 2.54% - 9
    44. Tentacruel - 2.54% - 9
    45. Machamp - 2.54% - 9
    46. Excadrill - 2.54% - 9
    47. Virizion - 2.54% - 9
    48. Jynx - 2.25% - 8
    49. Hariyama - 2.25% - 8
    50. Rotom-F - 2.25% - 8
    51. Krookodile - 1.97% - 7
    52. Gallade - 1.97% - 7
    53. Infernape - 1.97% - 7
    54. Musharna - 1.97% - 7
    55. Azelf - 1.69% - 6
    56. Gliscor - 1.69% - 6
    57. Hitmonlee - 1.41% - 5
    58. Mienshao - 1.41% - 5
    59. Escavalier - 1.41% - 5
    60. Swampert - 1.41% - 5
    61. Milotic - 1.41% - 5
    62. Conkeldurr - 1.41% - 5
    63. Rotom-H - 1.13% - 4
    64. Parasect - 1.13% - 4
    65. Rhydon - 1.13% - 4
    66. Porygon-Z - 1.13% - 4
    67. Octillery - 1.13% - 4
    68. Snorlax - 1.13% - 4
    69. Darmanitan - 1.13% - 4
    70. Typhlosion - 1.13% - 4
    71. Venusaur - 1.13% - 4
    72. Exeggutor - 1.13% - 4
    73. Dusclops - 1.13% - 4
    74. Whimsicott - 1.13% - 4
    75. Cloyster - 1.13% - 4
    76. Gengar - 1.13% - 4
    77. Slowking - 1.13% - 4
    78. Ambipom - 1.13% - 4
    79. Honchkrow - 1.13% - 4
    80. Blaziken - 0.85% - 3
    81. Starmie - 0.85% - 3
    82. Aerodactyl - 0.85% - 3
    83. Porygon2 - 0.85% - 3
    84. Bronzong - 0.85% - 3
    85. Murkrow - 0.85% - 3
    86. Marowak - 0.85% - 3
    87. Gardevoir - 0.85% - 3
    88. Dusknoir - 0.85% - 3
    89. Shuckle - 0.56% - 2
    90. Shiftry - 0.56% - 2
    91. Cofagrigus - 0.56% - 2
    92. Heracross - 0.56% - 2
    93. Jumpluff - 0.56% - 2
    94. Crawdaunt - 0.56% - 2
    95. Eelektross - 0.56% - 2
    96. Glaceon - 0.56% - 2
    97. Gorebyss - 0.56% - 2
    98. Lapras - 0.56% - 2
    99. Haxorus - 0.56% - 2
    100. Igglybuff - 0.56% - 2
    101. Cherrim - 0.56% - 2
    102. Persian - 0.56% - 2
    103. Raikou - 0.56% - 2
    104. Rotom - 0.56% - 2
    105. Latias - 0.56% - 2
    106. Magnezone - 0.56% - 2
    107. Druddigon - 0.56% - 2
    108. Mantine - 0.28% - 1
    109. Togetic - 0.28% - 1
    110. Alakazam - 0.28% - 1
    111. Altaria - 0.28% - 1
    112. Entei - 0.28% - 1
    113. Dugtrio - 0.28% - 1
    114. Accelgor - 0.28% - 1
    115. Weezing - 0.28% - 1
    116. Medicham - 0.28% - 1
    117. Ditto - 0.28% - 1
    118. Golduck - 0.28% - 1
    119. Froslass - 0.28% - 1
    120. Charizard - 0.28% - 1
    121. Lickilicky - 0.28% - 1
    122. Regice - 0.28% - 1
    123. Kangaskhan - 0.28% - 1
    124. Claydol - 0.28% - 1
    125. Blissey - 0.28% - 1
    126. Smeargle - 0.28% - 1
    127. Combee - 0.28% - 1
    128. Tangrowth - 0.28% - 1
    129. Larvesta - 0.28% - 1
    130. Lucario - 0.28% - 1
    131. Hippowdon - 0.28% - 1
    132. Spiritomb - 0.28% - 1
    133. Bibarel - 0.28% - 1


    Metagross' usage is crazy, and I'm surprised at the amount of Crobat. What do ya'll notice?
  2. sandman

    sandman Bum bum bum bum
    is a Forum Moderator Alumnus

    Joined:
    May 11, 2007
    Messages:
    2,123
    I bet all of those were moof's team. Surprised hypno got that much usage.
  3. Dozz

    Dozz Has anyone in this family ever seen a chicken?
    is an Artist Alumnusis a Forum Moderator Alumnus

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2010
    Messages:
    524
    I'm honestly surprise at how high Aron is. Is the ole sturdy endeavour sandstorm trick really fooling that many people to keep it going? Then again, these stats don't show how successful it was

    Apart from that, nothing that shocking I guess. Chandelure a bit higher than expected I guess. Looks like nothing is going to rock those bread and butter mons from top spot anytime soon.

    EDIT: I know that feel gec. The Swampert use is probably mine..
  4. gec

    gec i've been crawling through the falling
    is a Forum Moderator Alumnus

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2007
    Messages:
    2,326
    60. Gliscor - 1.69% - 6


    Coincidentally probably all 6 of my matches. Gliscor > Garchomp people.
  5. Pippy

    Pippy

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2011
    Messages:
    646
    19. Aron - 10.7% - 38

    What...? Is it really that effective?

    29. Hypno - 5.07% - 18

    Hypno is used that much huh? Seems kinda outclassed by other trick room setters to me...

    And Metagross at almost 50%. Wow. I know he's popular, but 50%? Wouldn't have called that one.
  6. CakesOfSpan

    CakesOfSpan

    Joined:
    May 16, 2009
    Messages:
    217
    IMO the Hypno usage isn't too unheard of, especially considering that a lot of participants in this tournament are not too accustomed to the VGC rules. What often comes to mind is, "No Sleep Clause?!" There are several ways to fight against it, but Hypno is the only mon who can passively counter it (via Insomnia) and inflict it as well (via that 60% Hypnosis @.@) However 18 uses implies that at least 5 people were running, which I agree is a bit high.

    For all we know, it could just be a group of people who put together a troll (look at him and don't say you're not scared D:) team.

    Also, 2 mons that I think deserve more usage...

    120. Kangaskhan - 0.28% - 1 Scrappy Fake Out is quality.
    102. Latias - 0.56% - 2 - The defensive form of Latios... gets 1/60th its usage.
    115. Hippowdon - 0.28% - 1 Weather inducer, solid bulk, can counter its Sand Stream counterpart... and it was used once.
  7. The Knights of Wario Land

    The Knights of Wario Land

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2012
    Messages:
    819
    92. Marowak - 0.85% - 3
    Oh come on, that's a disgrace. Marowak is one of the best Trick Room mons of all time.

    129. Combee - 0.28% - 1
    Lol
  8. PungentFruit

    PungentFruit

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2011
    Messages:
    349
    Wow I used 4 of the top 10 o.o
  9. TheMantyke

    TheMantyke DISRESPECT YOUR SUPERIORS
    is a Contributor to Smogon Social Mediais a Forum Moderatoris a Community Contributoris a Contributor to Smogonis a Team Rater Alumnus
    VGC Leader

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2007
    Messages:
    5,497
    It's not likely a group of people trying to troll the PO server as it is a sign of how little we play VGC on Smogon. Nearly every time I log onto PO for VGC matches, I opt for Skarmbliss instead of Smogon for a larger player base (albeit dwarfed by Smogon's OU player base). It's really a shame we can't seem to pull our own player base back to our own server. Hopefully the VGC tourney will spark some interest in it.
  10. BlueCookies

    BlueCookies April Fools 2009 Participant
    is a VGC 2012 Masters World Champion

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2007
    Messages:
    1,267
    57. Paras - 1.97% - 7

    YEAH
  11. DigGa

    DigGa

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2012
    Messages:
    36
    Wow, Toed not in the Top and Crobat 11. :O
  12. DreamTalon

    DreamTalon

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2011
    Messages:
    186
    Everything in the Top 10 wasn't a surprise. I'm surprised Metagross has usage that low. I see way more than 50% whenever I play online.
  13. dinosaurdan

    dinosaurdan

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2012
    Messages:
    200
    um, whos the guy who used Larevesta? Thats crazy stupid to use larvesta over volcarona.
  14. Exc4libur

    Exc4libur

    Joined:
    May 12, 2012
    Messages:
    42
    99. Cherrim - 0.56% - 2

    Looks like I may not be the only one using Cherrim.
  15. Dimsun

    Dimsun
    is a VGC 2012 Seniors World Champion

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2010
    Messages:
    259
    This is from the VGC 2012 Tournament, NOT smogon server usage stats. That's why the Hypno use is so surprising.
  16. R Inanimate

    R Inanimate Grasp the earth, Grasp the World.
    is a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnus

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    736
    I'm not too surprised on the numbers having a high bias towards the super standard Pokemon, while also having a lot of crack outliers. Though I will say that the popularity of Crobat, and Aron do come as a surprise.

    Not everyone who participated in the tourney has had experience in playing double battles. As such, there's a good chance of people just slapping the "top 6 most used" together and calling it a team. Or making a completely wacky team because they feel that they have no chance against their opponent, or their opponent is also inexperienced in doubles and they just wanted to try something for fun.
  17. Ravix

    Ravix

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    196
    Alaka trollin us.
  18. kingofmars

    kingofmars
    is a Past SPL Winneris a VGC2 Winner

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2010
    Messages:
    773
    Officially calling out whoever wins of Matty vs Malekith to join me for not using any mons in the top 10 in the finals of the tour for the sake of diversity
  19. R Inanimate

    R Inanimate Grasp the earth, Grasp the World.
    is a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnus

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2011
    Messages:
    736
    Wow. That's on the level of Froslass activating the word censor preventing battle videos containing an unnicknamed Froslass to be uploaded to the server. >_>

    Crobat being that high isn't due to Acrobatics usage, is it?
  20. Alakapimp

    Alakapimp All washed up
    is a Tournament Director Alumnusis a Super Moderator Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnus

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2008
    Messages:
    3,113
    Fixed them, sorry about that, should have paid more attention.

    Also yeah R that was why Crobat was so high, they make more sense now.
  21. Fishy

    Fishy

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2008
    Messages:
    3,209
    congrats evan for being the only serious spiritomb user

    crobat is still a boss, more people should use him!!
  22. LPFan

    LPFan

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2011
    Messages:
    317
    17. Gastrodon - 8.73% - 31

    why isn't this in the top 10.

    METAGROSS IS METAGAME.
  23. Stormfront

    Stormfront

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Messages:
    667
    Typhlosion actually got 4 uses and I wasn't in this! lol, that is partially serious btw.

    I am a little surprised to see Terrakion above mons like Toed/Aboma, but still believable.
  24. Synre

    Synre
    is a Smogon IRC SOp Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnusis an Administrator Alumnusis a Past SPL Winner

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2005
    Messages:
    3,588
    Len you were one of those kids who just copy/pasted from sparknotes, weren't you.





    Thanks for this, nice info to have while thinking about Nats teams.
  25. ZachDro

    ZachDro

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2011
    Messages:
    176
    ...;-; Unreality

Users Viewing Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 0)