I see the VGC is doubles, so why can't we have Bronzong and Slaking: Bronzong can take hits at the same time Skill Swap with Slaking... this way it's like having 3 Ubers: The two you already have and Slaking. I hope this is banned, as it is very cheap. I think it's not overused because it's a waste of Pokemon.
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Why no Slaking/Regigias?
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You sure this question can't simply go on the Simple Questions Simple Requests VGC edition thread? You might get more responses there too, I'm guessing.
Because it takes much too long to set up, can be seen from a mile away, and Bronzong loses his Ground-type immunity.
It won a regional though. :D
You can use a turn to Skill Swap Slaking, or you can use that turn to do something like Swords Dance, Dragon Dance, Explosion, etc.
You can't just look at the results of one turn and say "This seems good therefore it's broken.". You have to look at what you're giving up to use that strategy. In this case, you have to give up quite a bit.
You can't just look at the results of one turn and say "This seems good therefore it's broken.". You have to look at what you're giving up to use that strategy. In this case, you have to give up quite a bit.
Whaat? Was this in Japan? The only thing close I can think of is the power trick Shuckle at Seattle last year.
You'll get your Slaking/Regigas double teamed before you even think of starting such a combo.
Just watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DPgelSsOM4
While he does get to off one in the first turn, he's then swiftly offed himself in the next before he can do anything else.
I think that's the kind of thing you could expect considering Slaking
Just watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DPgelSsOM4
While he does get to off one in the first turn, he's then swiftly offed himself in the next before he can do anything else.
I think that's the kind of thing you could expect considering Slaking
Not the best example of why it's a bad idea, though, since he goes on to Skill Swap the Slow Start for Swift Swim and win...
Hm, Skill Swap Slow Start for Seaking's Swift Swim. Sibilance!
But wait, in that video that Regigias handled 2 Pokemon... that's not so bad.
And how is "wasting" a move doing Skill Swap any more "wasteful" than using Swords Dance? Other than /example: Mismagius getting Slow Start, it's basically the same thing...
I guess it's a bad idea, giving the fact you're just heaving Slow Start from one Pokemon to another, just that youtube video isn't the best idea.
And how is "wasting" a move doing Skill Swap any more "wasteful" than using Swords Dance? Other than /example: Mismagius getting Slow Start, it's basically the same thing...
I guess it's a bad idea, giving the fact you're just heaving Slow Start from one Pokemon to another, just that youtube video isn't the best idea.
What obi and others have said is half of the answer: the setup uses up precious turns. The other half of the answer is that there's no reward for your setup time in the VGC environment. You take a turn to get Truant off of Slaking or Slow Start off of Regigigas and what do you get for your troubles? A Pokémon that's almost but not quite as good as the Ubers that are allowed in the tournament anyway. These are Ubers that are stronger than Slaking and Regigigas, but don't need any setup at all.
In certain environments that don't allow such powerful Legendaries, strategies that remove these negative abilities can be viable. I've used them. Still, you should NEVER USE SKILL SWAP ON SLAKING. There's a nifty little move called Gastro Acid that gets rid of Truant with no cost to the user. The downside? The Pokémon that learn it are on the weaker end of the spectrum.
If you want to use Skill Swap on Regigigas, that's more reasonable. I'd rather have a Slowbro or Slowking do it than a Mismagius, though. Mismagius cares about that hit to its Speed. Slowbro would just laugh and use it to wail on Trick Room teams.
In certain environments that don't allow such powerful Legendaries, strategies that remove these negative abilities can be viable. I've used them. Still, you should NEVER USE SKILL SWAP ON SLAKING. There's a nifty little move called Gastro Acid that gets rid of Truant with no cost to the user. The downside? The Pokémon that learn it are on the weaker end of the spectrum.
If you want to use Skill Swap on Regigigas, that's more reasonable. I'd rather have a Slowbro or Slowking do it than a Mismagius, though. Mismagius cares about that hit to its Speed. Slowbro would just laugh and use it to wail on Trick Room teams.
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