Zapdos (Concise + Update)

[Overview]

<p>Zapdos has a tremendous defensive typing, which includes resistances and immunities to the most common moves of top-tier OU threats such as Scizor, Lucario, and Flygon. Although Zapdos’ Stealth Rock weakness limits its walling capabilities, Roost and Rapid Spin support help combat that problem. Zapdos is capable of taking on many of the OU tier’s top physical threats thanks to its all-around great stats and typing. Zapdos’ high Special Attack and good Speed means that it can also perform wonderfully in an offensive role, and can even use Baton Pass to effectively support its teammates with stat boosts. Zapdos also struggles with the ever-popular Tyranitar, although this can be combated with proper team support. Despite a few flaws, Zapdos is still a very effective Pokémon, and a threat who should always be considered when building a team.</p>

[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Roost
move 3: Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Heat Wave / Roar
item: Leftovers
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 228 Def / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With only two weaknesses, good stats overall, Roost for recovery, and Pressure to waste opponents' PP, this Zapdos makes a great tank. You can come in with relative safety against many top OU sweepers and various tanks and walls. From there you can stall out your opponents with Roost, or deal some damage with Thunderbolt, which will hurt even with no EV investment thanks to Zapdos’ base 125 Special Attack.</p>

<p>With Heat Wave, Zapdos can run Hidden Power Grass over Hidden Power Ice, losing super effective coverage on Gliscor and Salamence, but gaining the ability to beat its biggest counter, Swampert. If you do run Roar, use Hidden Power Ice so that you will have better type coverage. Be advised that to beat maximum HP Scizor, Heat Wave is needed to prevent it from Roosting off the damage dealt by a neutral Thunderbolt, since you lack attacking power when using this bulky EV spread. The 36 Speed EVs are used so that you can still outrun max Speed non-Scarf Tyranitar even with the Speed point lost by running Hidden Power Ice.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Even though this Zapdos makes a great defensive addition to any team, it is fairly easy to wall. As with any specially-based attacker, Blissey is the most effective counter to this set. Latias is another Pokémon who does not mind taking attacks from Zapdos thanks to her high Special Defense, resistance to Electric, Fire, and Grass, and access to Calm Mind. A bulky user of Pursuit can help cover these weaknesses; Scizor is a perfect candidate for this, as it resists both of Latias’ STAB moves (though he ( it wouldn't make sense the way this is being said so you should put he) must be wary of Hidden Power Fire). Metagross is another excellent choice, as it resists both of Zapdos' weaknesses and can damage both Blissey and Latias greatly with its STAB Meteor Mash. Zapdos also has issues with Stealth Rock, making a Rapid Spinner such as Starmie very beneficial on your team.</p>

<p>Other counters to Zapdos vary depending on which moves you choose. Swampert can easily stop any Zapdos who lacks Hidden Power Grass, while Celebi does not fear Zapdos who lack Heat Wave. Tyranitar’s high Special Defense and STAB Rock-type moves make it a suitable counter to Zapdos as well. A Celebi of your own can force out Swampert with the threat of a Leaf Storm or Grass Knot, while Life Orb Latias can take care of Salamence or Gliscor if you lack Hidden Power Ice. Both of these Pokemon can be easily Pursuited by Tyranitar, however.</p>

[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Roost
move 3: Thunder Wave / Light Screen
move 4: Heat Wave / Hidden Power Ice
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 224 SpD / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is similar to the Defensive Roost set, but with a spread focused more on Special Defense. Though the sets are similar, they play very differently; the Special Defense EVs allow Zapdos to switch in much more easily against special attackers like Heatran. Zapdos still has enough Defense to switch in on most unboosted neutral physical attacks, though super effective hits will significantly damage it.</p>

<p>Thunderbolt is Zapdos’ main form of STAB, and even with no EV investment in Special Attack, it will deal a healthy amount of damage to any Pokemon who doesn’t resist it. Roost allows Zapdos to restore 50% of its health in one turn, which helps on such a defensive Pokemon. Thunder Wave is the main choice in the third slot to provide paralysis support, but Light Screen can be used to better sponge special hits and support your team. Heat Wave is the best choice in the final slot to hit Steel-types, but Hidden Power Ice can be used instead if you wish to hit Dragons.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This set runs into many of the same problems as the previous set. Blissey, Latias, and Tyranitar still wall this set. Metagross, Scizor, Tyranitar, and Machamp are very good partners to this set to help cover Zapdos' weakness to the aforementioned Pokemon. Swampert and Celebi are also good switch-ins against this set, although they will struggle to beat Zapdos one on one. Toxic Spikes are a great complement to this set as well since Zapdos’ counters are usually grounded specially-based walls who rely on recovery to win. It is also important to note that this set will have more difficulty countering powerful physical threats due to its lower Defense stat, so make sure to back Zapdos up appropriately with Pokémon like Gliscor, Rotom-A, and Skarmory.</p>

[SET]
name: SubRoost
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Roost
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Hidden Power Ice / Toxic
item: Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 184 SpD / 76 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Zapdos' best way of annoying the opponent is stalling them out with Substitute and Roost when Toxic Spikes are up, and it does quite a good job at it. The aim of this set is to be used in conjunction with Toxic Spikes to accumulate poison damage on some of Zapdos's usual switch-ins, while taking advantage of Pressure to waste your opponent's PP. This includes Tyranitar, non-Cleric Blissey, and Thick Fat Snorlax. Substitute and Roost used wisely will keep you at high health while also being able to block status.</p>

<p>Almost all Flying Pokémon immune to Toxic Spikes will fall to Zapdos' STAB Thunderbolt, or in Gliscor's case, Hidden Power Ice. Toxic is also a viable option in the last slot if you decide to not run this set alongside Toxic Spikes, though it is recommended that you do. Toxic has additional usefulness in poisoning Pokémon immune to Toxic Spikes, namely Levitators. Few Steel-type Pokémon can reliably switch in (with the exception of Heatran and Calm Mind Wish Jirachi). Metagross without Ice Punch can be outstalled and worn down with Thunderbolt, and Empoleon has a very little chance of not falling.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Zapdos does a good job outstalling most walls and outspeeding many Pokémon, and this set combines those two assets perfectly. This version of Zapdos outspeeds Adamant Lucario and can take multiple hits from it. Maximizing Speed can also prove to be a worthwhile investment on this set, as Zapdos has a great base 100 Speed to abuse. This can prove invaluable in letting you set up a fast Substitute before taking hits from threats such as Salamence and Jolly Lucario. It also gets a free Substitute if it comes in on a Choice-locked Ground-type move.</p>

<p>Since the aim of this set is to stall, this Zapdos works best when paired with Toxic Spikes. Forretress and Tentacruel both resist Ice moves aimed at Zapdos and can set up Toxic Spikes, while also being able to Rapid Spin Stealth Rock away to benefit Zapdos even more. Roserade and Smeargle do not particularly work well with Zapdos defensively, but they deserve mention because they are the only other Pokémon who can reliably set Toxic Spikes up for your team in OU, and can also put a Pokemon to sleep with Sleep Powder and Spore respectively. If you find yourself in a situation where Zapdos is easily countered by your opponent’s team, Baton Pass might prove to be a worthwhile option in conjunction with Substitute on this set, allowing your teammates to get in for free even if Zapdos is incapable of stalling.</p>

[SET]
name: Offensive
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Heat Wave
move 3: Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Roost
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Offensive Zapdos can be quite a threat to teams that expect a weaker, more defensive Zapdos. The given attacks provide surprisingly good coverage in OU, and with Zapdos' massive Special Attack, can cause quite some havoc. With Hidden Power Ice as your last move, no Pokémon resists all of the moves besides the uncommon Lanturn. Add in the fact that Zapdos is very bulky even with no EV investment and has access to Roost to heal off damage, and you’ll find that this Zapdos can be a very durable offensive powerhouse.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Life Orb is the recommended item for the extra power, but Leftovers is somewhat viable as well for allowing Zapdos to heal damage gradually. If Swampert isn't a problem for you, Hidden Power Grass can be dropped for Hidden Power Ice for a psuedo-BoltBeam combo. A Timid nature is the preferred choice for the purpose of outspeeding more threats, but a Modest nature can be used instead if you would rather have more power as opposed to more Speed.</p>

<p>This set is a bit more difficult to counter than the previous two sets because it makes use of Zapdos’ impressive Special Attack stat and type coverage, but it is still stopped cold by Blissey. Physically-bulky Pursuit users are a great way to deal with her. Because of the lack of defensive investment, this Zapdos is especially prone to revenge killing. When using this offensive set, it is important that you also pair it up with Pokémon who can switch into the likes of Mamoswine’s Ice Shard, Lucario’s ExtremeSpeed, and to a lesser extent, Scizor’s Bullet Punch. A Skarmory, Choice Scarf Magnezone, or your own Scizor can be used to remedy this weakness. Skarmory gets a special mention as it can effectively use Spikes to rack up residual damage on the opponent and punish them for switching in and out of Zapdos.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
move 3: Heat Wave
move 4: U-turn
item: Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Choice Scarf Zapdos is meant to lead and give issues to common leads like Azelf, Metagross, and Heatran. If the opposing lead is not a great match up, Zapdos can U-turn away to an appropriate counter. Hidden Power Ice is chosen because it complements Thunderbolt well, and offers the chance to revenge kill Dragonite and Salamence. If defeating Swampert is of absolute importance, Hidden Power Grass is also completely viable on this set. With Heat Wave, Zapdos can reliably revenge kill opposing Steel-types like Agility Metagross. The given EVs allow Zapdos to Speed tie with +1 Dragon Dance Salamence (if Zapdos is holding Choice Scarf), and possibly revenge kill it with Hidden Power Ice. This is very important, as Dragon Dance Salamence is arguably the most threatening sweeper in today’s metagame. Choice Specs could be used as an alternative item on this set for more power, but Choice Scarf is generally preferred as it allows Zapdos to act as a more effective revenge killer.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Much like with other Zapdos sets, Blissey will wall you to no end. Swampert is a pretty good match-up against this set, as is Tyranitar (though both need to watch out for Hidden Power Grass). If your opponent is especially gutsy, they could even send in a Water-type to resist Heat Wave or Hidden Power Ice and force you to take more damage from Stealth Rock. Latias also switches into this set with impunity, but she must be wary of U-turn. In order to fix these problems, Scizor makes a great partner, since it is capable of dealing with Tyranitar, Blissey, and Latias quite easily. Zapdos’ weakness to Stealth Rock is a massive hindrance for this set, as without Roost you are sacrificing one of its best assets in its defensive longevity. Because of that, pairing this Zapdos with a Wish user such as Jirachi or Blissey can greatly prolong Zapdos' lifespan. Rapid Spin support is also helpful; Starmie and Tentacruel are good choices to supply this.</p>

[SET]
name: Baton Pass
move 1: Agility
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Baton Pass
move 4: Thunderbolt
item: Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 136 Def / 88 SpA / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set is fairly straightforward: set up an Agility while your opponent switches to a Zapdos counter, Substitute while you’re faster than the opposing Pokemon, and then Baton Pass to a sweeper with low Speed. Physical attackers are often the best choices as they scare off Blissey, who is a very common switch-in to Zapdos, while also doing well against generic Electric-types like Jolteon who may also switch into Zapdos. It is important to note that this set is meant to be played defensively, utilizing Zapdos’ amazing typing and bulk to get the Baton Pass off instead of just boosting your stats, setting up a Substitute, and attempting to sweep.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This set has a defensive set-up to ensure that Zapdos has the bulk for pulling off an Agility and Substitute. You can afford to cut down on Speed here because you will be outspeeding everything after an Agility except Choice Scarfers like Latias or Starmie. The 36 Speed EVs are recommended to allow you to beat Jolly Tyranitar even if your Speed IV is 30 (because of Hidden Power), but you may want to use a bit more Speed in order to outpace common Choice Scarfers such as Flygon or Heatran after an Agility. The Defense is here so you can take physical hits from Pokémon like Gyarados or Metagross, but you can shift it to Special Defense so you stand a better chance against Starmie, Latias, and other special attackers.</p>

<p>As with most Baton Passers, this Zapdos is fairly difficult for your opponent to counter directly. Good supporters would be Pokémon such as Metagross or Lucario, who would both be relatively easy to Baton Pass to considering they resist both of Zapdos’ weaknesses. Other slow-but-powerful Pokémon can use this to their advantage, such as Swords Dance Heracross or Rhyperior, and Nasty Plot Porygon-Z. Since nearly every Pokémon in the game benefits from a +2 Speed boost, this Zapdos will surely be an asset to your team. Many Pokemon also benefit from being Passed a Substitute, and Zapdos can effectively do that as well. Frail Pokemon in particular appreciate a Substitute Pass, as it allows them to take a hit that they would otherwise take heavy damage from.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Like nearly every special attacker in the game, Zapdos is walled by Blissey. It is important to carry a Pokémon who can reliably switch into her so that Zapdos does not get hit with a harmful status effect. Pokémon such as Tyranitar, Machamp, Metagross, and Snorlax are perfect for this role. Latias also laughs at most Zapdos sets due to her typing, but Steel-types such as Scizor, Metagross, and Bronzong can once again come in handy here. Since most of Zapdos’ counters are vulnerable to Pursuit, you will want to pair Zapdos with a reliable user of the move, like Scizor or Tyranitar.</p>

<p>Bulky Ground-types such as Swampert and Hippowdon can reliably counter Zapdos. Hidden Power Grass is mentioned on almost every set solely to prevent these Pokémon from easily walling you. Using a Grass-type such as Celebi or Tangrowth can also help to get rid of these counters. Bulky Water-types such as Suicune, Gyarados, or your own Swampert could be just as useful in dealing with these threats.</p>

<p>One of Zapdos’ biggest issues is its weakness to Stealth Rock. For this reason, Rapid Spin support is hugely appreciated. Life Orb Starmie makes a great partner as it can reliably deal with Ground-types who wall Zapdos, and can also defeat common Spin blockers with its STAB Hydro Pump. Tentacruel and Forretress are also good partners, as they can supply both Rapid Spin and Toxic Spikes support; Toxic Spikes will greatly benefit Zapdos in stalling out its counters, so they are very beneficial to have if you are using Zapdos in a defensive role.</p>

[Optional Changes]

<p>Zapdos is a sturdy user of Rain Dance and can back it up with a 100% accurate, STAB Thunder off of one of the highest Special Attack stats in OU. It can also use a defensive set utilizing Rest and Sleep Talk that was standard in Advance, but it is much more difficult to use in the heavily offensive metagame of the 4th generation. Thunder Wave is good as ever to support a slower team, especially a slow sweeper like Rhyperior. Discharge is a very viable choice for Zapdos thanks to its 30% paralysis rate. Zapdos is also capable of utilizing a Metal Sound set, but it is very similar to the offensive set already listed here.</p>

<p>Generally, you'll want a defensive Zapdos to have nearly maxed out HP and a ton in either of its defenses. It is important to remember that using 248 HP EVs is more beneficial than fully maximizing HP, since it allows you to switch into Stealth Rock five times instead of four, in addition to reducing residual damage. Using max HP does allow you recover additional HP with Leftovers, but the common weather conditions in OU will nullify Leftovers recovery. On sweeping sets, you should invest in Speed. On offensive Zapdos, you should always max Speed to at least Speed tie with opposing max Speed Salamence. The defensive Roost sets can opt for a faster spread if you want them to beat Lucario more easily. 176 Speed EVs with a Speed-boosting nature will outspeed all non-Scarfed Lucario. HP should then be maxed and the remaining 80 EVs poured into Special Attack or Defense.</p>

[Counters]

<p>Blissey and Snorlax stop all of Zapdos’ attacks cold. Electric-types do well against Zapdos, especially those immune to Thunderbolt, like Jolteon or Electivire. Flygon and Gliscor have a relatively easy time against Zapdos without Hidden Power Ice, while Swampert can wall Zapdos without Hidden Power Grass. Latias isn’t hit hard by any of Zapdos’ attacks, and can Calm Mind in its face. Grass-types such as Celebi or Roserade can do well against some Zapdos, but must be wary of Heat Wave and U-turn. Steelix also does decently against versions who lack Heat Wave, and even boasts an immunity to Toxic. With Sand Stream boosting its Special Defense, Tyranitar makes an excellent counter, particularly the specially defensive versions. Although Zapdos can conceivably stall out Stone Edge's low PP (Pressure only gives Tyranitar four chances to use it), Tyranitar will beat Zapdos by using Crunch.</p>


Changes in bold
 

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Wow, thanks guys! I'll edit everything in now :) I didn't agree with most of your changes however, Beserker Lord. For instance, when you wanted me to change Scizor from "it" to "he", that would be an incorrect change; Pokemon who can be of both genders should be referred to as it unless you refer to the Pokemon as he throughout the entire analysis.
 
Changes in Blue.
Comments in Red.
Zapdos also struggles with the ever-popular Tyranitar and Latias, among others, although this can be combated with proper team support. Just mentioning TTar alone made the sentence out of place

evs: 248 HP / 224 Def / 36 Spe 2 too many EVs there

Given these traits, Zapdos can come in with relative safety against many top OU sweepers and various tanks and walls. Sentence was awkward

A bulky user of Pursuit can help cover these weaknesses; Scizor is a perfect candidate for this, as it resists Latias’ main STAB virtually no one uses Psychic (though must be wary of Hidden Power Fire and boosted Surfs). Under the right circumstances, Latias can 2HKO Scizor or lock Scizor into BP, letting something like Lucario set up, but I digress

A Celebi of your own can force out Swampert with the threat of a Leaf Storm or Grass Knot, while Life Orb Latias can take care of Salamence or Gliscor if you lack Hidden Power Ice. Both of these Pokemon can be easily Pursuited by Tyranitar, however. Perhaps, instead of Celebi and Latias as teammates, a Shaymin and Kingdra? Neither are weak to Pursuit and both able to take care of Tyranitar in their own way; I imagine a SubSeed w/ HP Ice and a ResTalkDDOutrage would be best.

Heat Wave is the best choice in the final slot to hit Steel-types, but Hidden Power Ice can be used instead if you wish to hit Dragon- and Ground-types.

The given attacks provide surprisingly good coverage in OU, and with Zapdos' massive Special Attack, can wreak havoc.

A Timid nature is the preferred choice for the purpose of outspeeding more threats, but a Modest nature can be used instead if you would rather have more power as opposed to more Speed. Unless there are specific 2HKOs/OHKOs you get with Modest, I would just recommend always running Timid; Speed is too important. Hell, even with the possibility of turning 3HKO -> 2HKO + 2HKO -> OHKO, I'd still run Timid all the time, but I suppose it's the battler's decision

evs: 248 HP / 136 Def / 88 SpA / 36 Spe Why the 88 SpA EVs?

Mostly minor things, including metagame related stuff that I'm not privvy to.

Hope I helped.
 
Zapdos needs legal IVs with Hidden Power, and Latias should be removed completely.

The following IVs are necessary for each Hidden Power type with the given natures, assuming all other IVs are 31 (or odd):
Hidden Power Grass
Modest: 26 Atk / 30 SpA
Timid: 2 Atk / 30 SpA
Calm: 26 Atk / 30 SpA
Bold: 14 Atk / 30 SpA

Hidden Power Ice
Modest: 10 Atk / 30 Def
Timid: 22 Atk / 30 DefCalm: 19 Atk / 30 Spd
Bold: 22 Atk / 30 Def

These were all from Shoddy, if you see one wrong, correct it!
 

Snorlaxe

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Shit, I could have sworn I de-Latiased this one...wow, now I look like an idiot, Thanks for the reminder, and I'll add those in ^_^

EDIT: Okay, all mentions of Latias have been removed.
 
There should be a brief mention about Zapdos' defensive spreads running more speed. Timid nature and maximum speed, 308 Speed (176 EVs), and 288 Speed (104 EVs) should probably be listed
 

Snorlaxe

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Alright RL, I've added that stuff about the Speed. Also, I'm gonna bump this for some final grammar checks before I ask a mod about getting this uploaded.

(please proofread this! ^_^)
 

Snorlaxe

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I've included all of the Quality Control changes regarding this analysis. rem said he might wanna remove Agility Zapdos or something, but he's going to test it and find out. In any event, this analysis is done and ready to be uploaded.

EDIT: I talked to Phil, and he said that he planned on waiting until rem was done with his QC testing, so this probably won't get uploaded for about two weeks, at which time I'll make all necessary QC changes or whatever
 
Hi, standard procedure here. Let's get this done!

Additions in bold, removals in red.
[Overview]

<p>Zapdos has an excellent tremendous defensive typing, which includes boasts resistances and immunities to the most common moves of top-tier OU threats such as Scizor, Lucario, and Flygon Metagross. Although Zapdos's Stealth Rock weakness limits its walling capabilities, Roost and Rapid Spin support help combat that problem. Zapdos is capable of taking on many of the OU tier's top physical and special threats thanks to its all-around great stats and typing. Its high Special Attack and good Speed mean that it can also perform wonderfully in an offensive role, and can even use Baton Pass to effectively support its teammates with stat boosts. Unfortunately, Zapdos struggles with the ever-popular Tyranitar (among other Pokemon), although this can be combated remedied with proper team support. Despite a few flaws, Zapdos is still a very effective Pokémon, and a threat who should always be considered when building a team.</p>

[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Roost
move 3: Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Heat Wave / Roar
item: Leftovers
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 224 228 Def / 36 32 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With only two weaknesses, good stats overall, Roost for recovery, and Pressure to waste opponents' PP, this Zapdos makes a great tank. Given these traits, Zapdos can come in with relative safety against various OU tanks, walls, and sweepers many top OU sweepers and various tanks and walls. From there, you can stall out your opponents with Roost, or deal some damage with Thunderbolt, which will hurt even with no EV investment thanks to Zapdos's base 125 Special Attack.</p>

<p>With Heat Wave, Zapdos can run Hidden Power Grass over Hidden Power Ice, losing super effective coverage on Gliscor and Salamence, but gaining the ability to beat its biggest counter, Swampert. If you decide to run Roar, use Hidden Power Ice so that you will have better type coverage. Be advised that in order to beat maximum HP Scizor, Heat Wave is needed, as it prevents Scizor from Roosting Heat Wave OHKOes Scizor, who might otherwise Roost off the damage dealt by a neutral Thunderbolt. The 36 32 Speed EVs are used so that you can still outrun max Speed non-Scarf Tyranitar even with the Speed point lost by running Hidden Power Ice. ((No Hidden Powers for this nature cost Zapdos any Speed))</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Even though this Zapdos makes a great defensive addition to any team, it's fairly easy to wall. As with any specially-based attacker, Blissey is the most effective counter to this set. A bulky user of Pursuit can help deal with Blissey; Scizor is a perfect candidate for this thanks to his sky-high Attack and access to Superpower. Metagross is another excellent choice, as he resists both of Zapdos's weaknesses and can seriously damage Blissey greatly with his STAB Meteor Mash. Zapdos also has issues with Stealth Rock, making a Rapid Spinner, such as Starmie, very beneficial on your team.</p>

<p>Other counters to Zapdos vary depending on which moves you choose. Swampert can easily stop any Zapdos who lacks Hidden Power Grass, while Celebi does not fear Zapdos who lack Heat Wave. Tyranitar’s high Special Defense and STAB Rock-type moves make him a suitable counter to Zapdos as well. A Celebi of your own can force out Swampert with the threat of a Leaf Storm or Grass Knot. If you really fear Pursuit users, then Shaymin can accomplish much many of the same things that Celebi can does, but needs to run a more defensive set in order to do so.</p>

[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Roost
move 3: Thunder Wave / Light Screen
move 4: Heat Wave / Hidden Power Ice
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 224 228 SpD / 36 32 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is similar to the Defensive Roost Physically Defensive set, but with a spread focused more on Special Defense. Though the sets are appear similar, they play very differently.; tThe Special Defense EVs allow Zapdos to switch in much more easily against special attackers like Heatran and Starmie, two Pokemon who Zapdos usually has trouble coming in on. Zapdos still has enough Defense to switch in on most unboosted neutral physical attacks, though super effective hits will significantly damage it.</p>

<p>Thunderbolt is Zapdos's main form of primary STAB attack, and even with no EV investment in Special Attack EVs, it will deal a healthy amount of damage to any Pokemon who doesn’t resist it. Roost allows Zapdos to restore 50% of its health in one turn, which helps on such a defensive Pokemon. Thunder Wave is the main choice in the third slot to provide paralysis support, but Light Screen can be used to better sponge special hits and support your team. Heat Wave is the best choice in the final slot to hit Steel-types, but Hidden Power Ice can be used instead if you wish to hit Dragon- and Ground-types. If using Hidden Power Ice, an alternate EV spread of 248 HP / 224 SpD / 36 Spe should be used with 19 Attack IVs and 30 Speed IVs.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This set runs into many of the same problems as the previous set. Blissey and Tyranitar still wall this set. Metagross, Scizor, Tyranitar, and Machamp are very good partners to this set to help cover Zapdos's weakness to the aforementioned Pokemon. Swampert and Celebi are also good switch-ins against this set, although they will struggle to beat Zapdos one-on-one. Toxic Spikes are a great complement to this set as well since Zapdos's counters are usually grounded, specially-based walls who rely on recovery to win. It is also important to note that this set will have more difficulty countering powerful physical threats due to its lower Defense stat, so make sure to back Zapdos up appropriately with physically bulky Pokemon like Gliscor, Rotom-A, and Skarmory.</p>

[SET]
name: SubRoost
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Roost
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Hidden Power Ice / Toxic
item: Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 184 SpD / 76 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Zapdos's best way of annoying the opponent is stalling them out with Substitute and Roost when Toxic Spikes are up, and it does quite a good job at it. This set is designed to be used in conjunction with Toxic Spikes, and aims to accumulate poison damage on some of Zapdos's usual switch-ins, while taking advantage of Pressure to waste your opponent's PP. This Common victims of this strategy includes Tyranitar, non-Cleric Blissey, and Thick Fat Snorlax. Substitute and Roost used wisely will block status and keep you at high health while also being able to block status.</p>

<p>Almost all Flying-type Pokémon immune to Toxic Spikes will fall to Zapdos's STAB Thunderbolt, or in Gliscor's case, Hidden Power Ice. Toxic is also a viable option in the last slot if you decide to not run this set alongside Toxic Spikes, though it is recommended that you do. Toxic has additional usefulness in poisoning Pokémon immune to Toxic Spikes, namely Levitators Pokemon with Levitate, such as like Rotom-A, who will easily otherwise switch in and set up on Zapdos. Thankfully, few Steel-type Pokémon Pokemon can reliably switch in against this Zapdos. (with the exception of Heatran and Calm Mind Wish Jirachi). Heatran and Calm Mind Wish Jirachi can give this trouble, as well as Metagross with Ice Punch. Metagross without Ice Punch, however, can be outstalled and worn down with Thunderbolt, and while Empoleon has a very little chance of achieving much of not falling.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This Zapdos successfully combines does a good job the ability to outstalling most walls andoutspeeding many common Pokemon, such as Adamant Lucario., and this set combines those two assets perfectly. This version of Zapdos outspeeds Adamant Lucario and can take multiple hits from him. Maximizing Speed can also prove to be a worthwhile investment on this set, as Zapdos has a great base 100 Speed to abuse. This can freely prove invaluable in letting you set up a fast Substitute before taking hits from threats such as Jolly Lucario. It also gets a free Substitute if it comes in on a Choice-locked Ground-type move, such as Choice Scarf Tyranitar's Earthquake. ((It does this with or without that Speed investment, so this should be relocated))</p>

<p>Since the aim of this set is to stall, this Zapdos works best when paired with Toxic Spikes. Forretress and Tentacruel both resist the Ice-type moves attacks aimed at Zapdos, and can set up Toxic Spikes, while and also being are able to Rapid Spin Stealth Rock away to help and assist Zapdos further even more. Roserade and Smeargle do not work particularly well with Zapdos defensively, but they deserve a mention because they are the only other OU Pokemon who can reliably set up Toxic Spikes up for your team in OU, and can also put a Pokemon to sleep with Sleep Powder and Spore, respectively. If you find yourself in a situation where Zapdos is easily countered by your opponent’s team, Baton Pass might prove to be a worthwhile option in conjunction with Substitute on this set, allowing your teammates to get in for free even if Zapdos is incapable of stalling out the opposition.</p>

[SET]
name: Offensive
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Heat Wave
move 3: Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Roost
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Offensive Zapdos can be quite a threat to teams that expect a weaker, more defensive Zapdos. The given attacks provide surprisingly good coverage in OU, and with Zapdos's massive Special Attack, can heavily damage many common Pokemon. With Hidden Power Ice as your last move, no Pokémon Pokemon outside of Lanturn resists the entirety of this set all of the moves besides the uncommon Lanturn. Add in the fact that Zapdos is very bulky even with no EV investment and has access to Roost to heal off damage, and you’ll find that this Zapdos can be a very durable offensive powerhouse. Zapdos is a very durable Pokemon, even with no EV investment in its defenses, and with Roost can still be very difficult to take down.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Life Orb is the recommended item for the extra power, but Leftovers is somewhat viable as well for improving Zapdos's longevity allowing Zapdos to heal damage gradually. If Swampert isn't a problem for you, Hidden Power Grass can be dropped for replaced by Hidden Power Ice for a psuedo-BoltBeam combination and the excellent , which gives great type coverage it provides. A Timid nature is the preferred in order to choice for the purpose of outspeeding more threats, but a Modest nature can be used instead if you would rather have more power as opposed to more Speed.</p>

<p>This set is a bit more difficult to counter than defensive the previous two sets because it makes use of Zapdos's impressive Special Attack stat and type coverage, but it is still stopped cold by Blissey. Physically-bulky Pursuit users are a great way to deal with her. Because of the lack of defensive investment, this Zapdos is especially prone to revenge killing. When using this offensive set, it is important that you also pair it up with Pokémon Pokemon who can switch in on the likes of Mamoswine's Ice Shard, Lucario's ExtremeSpeed, and to a lesser extent, Scizor's Bullet Punch. A Skarmory, Choice Scarf Magnezone, or your own Scizor can be used to remedy these weaknesses. Skarmory gets a special mention as he can effectively use Spikes to rack up residual damage on the opponent and punish them for switching in and out of Zapdos.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
move 3: Heat Wave
move 4: U-turn
item: Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Choice Scarf Zapdos is meant to lead and give issues to common leads like Azelf, Metagross, and Heatran. If the opposing lead is not a good match up, Zapdos can U-turn out to an appropriate counter. Hidden Power Ice is chosen because it complements Thunderbolt well, and offers the chance allows Zapdos to revenge kill Dragonite and Salamence. If defeating Swampert is of absolute importance, Hidden Power Grass is also completely viable usable on this set, though Hidden Power Ice is preferred always better if you aren't concerned about Swampert. With Heat Wave, Zapdos can reliably revenge kill opposing Steel-types like such as Agility Metagross. The given EVs allow Choice Scarf Zapdos to Speed tie with +1 Dragon Dance Salamence (if Zapdos is holding Choice Scarf), and possibly revenge kill him with Hidden Power Ice. This is very important, as Dragon Dance Salamence is arguably the most threatening sweeper in today's metagame. Choice Specs could be used as an alternative item on this set for more power, but Choice Scarf is generally preferred as it allows Zapdos to act as a more effective revenge killer.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Much like with other Zapdos sets, Blissey will wall you to no end. Swampert is a good match-up against this set, as is Tyranitar (though both need to watch out for Hidden Power Grass). If your opponent is especially gutsy, they could even send in a Water-type to sponge Heat Wave or Hidden Power Ice and force you to take more damage from Stealth Rock. In order to fix these problems, Scizor makes a great partner, since it is capable of dealing with Tyranitar and Blissey quite easily. Zapdos's weakness to Stealth Rock is a massive hindrance for a Choice set, as without Roost you are sacrificing one of its best assets in its defensive longevity. Because of that, pairing this Zapdos with a Wish user such as Jirachi or Blissey can greatly prolong Zapdos's lifespan. Rapid Spin support is also helpful; Starmie and Tentacruel are good choices for this role to supply this.</p>

[SET]
name: Baton Pass
move 1: Agility
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Baton Pass
move 4: Thunderbolt
item: Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 136 Def / 88 SpA / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set is fairly straightforward: set up an Agility while your opponent switches to their Zapdos counter, Substitute while you're faster than the opposing Pokemon, and then Baton Pass to a sweeper with low Speed. Physical attackers are often the best choices as they scare off Blissey and fare well against Electric-types like Jolteon, who is a very are common switch-ins to Zapdos, while also doing well against generic Electric-types like Jolteon who may also switch into Zapdos. It is important to note that this set is meant to be played defensively, utilizing Zapdos's amazing typing and bulk to get the Baton Pass off instead of just boosting your stats, setting up a Substitute, and attempting to sweep.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This set has a defensive set-up to ensure that Zapdos has the bulk for pulling off an Agility and Substitute. You can afford to cut down on Speed here because you will be outspeeding everyone after an Agility, except Choice Scarfers like Starmie. The 36 Speed EVs are recommended to allow you to beat Jolly Tyranitar even if your Speed IV is 30 (because of Hidden Power Ice), but you may want to use a bit more Speed in order to outpace common Choice Scarfers such as Flygon or Heatran after an Agility. The Defense is here so you can take physical hits from Pokémon Pokemon like Gyarados or Metagross, but you can shift it to Special Defense so if you can want to stand a better chance against Starmie, Heatran, and other powerful special attackers.</p>

<p>As with most Baton Passers, this Zapdos is fairly difficult for your opponent to counter directly. Good supporters would be Pokémon Pokemon such as Metagross or Lucario, who would both be are relatively easy to Baton Pass to considering they resist both of with their resistances to both of Zapdos's weaknesses. Other slow-but-powerful Pokémon Pokemon can use this to their advantage, such as Swords Dance Heracross, or Swords Dance Rhyperior, and Nasty Plot Porygon-Z. Machamp is also a good choice, as it he is extremely difficult to deal with once he gets an Agility boost under his belt. Since nearly every Pokemon in the game benefits from a +2 Speed boost, this Zapdos will surely be an asset to your team. Many Pokemon also benefit from being Passed a Substitute, and Zapdos can effectively do that Baton Pass Substitutes as well, something many Pokemon benefit greatly from. Frail Pokemon in particular appreciate having a Substitute Passed to them, as it allows them to take a hit that they would otherwise take heavy damage from.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Like nearly every special attacker in the game, Zapdos is walled by Blissey. It is important to carry a Pokemon who can reliably switch into her so that Zapdos does not get hit with a harmful status effect. Pokemon such as Tyranitar, Machamp, Metagross, and Snorlax are perfect for this role. Since most of Zapdos's counters are vulnerable to Pursuit, you will want to pair Zapdos with a reliable user of the move, like such as Scizor or Tyranitar.</p>

<p>Bulky Ground-types such as Swampert and Hippowdon can also reliably counter Zapdos. Hidden Power Grass is mentioned on almost every set solely to prevent these Pokémon from easily walling you. Using a Grass-type such as Celebi or Tangrowth Shaymin can also help in getting rid of these Pokemon to get rid of these counters. Bulky Water-types, such as Suicune, Gyarados, or your own Swampert, could be just as useful in dealing with these threats.</p>

<p>One of Zapdos's biggest issues is its weakness to Stealth Rock. For this reason, Rapid Spin support is hugely appreciated. Life Orb Starmie makes a great partner as it can reliably deal with the Ground-types who wall Zapdos, and can also defeat common Spin blockers with its STAB Hydro Pump. Tentacruel and Forretress are also good partners, as they can supply both Rapid Spin and Toxic Spikes support; Toxic Spikes will greatly benefit Zapdos in stalling out its counters, so they are very beneficial to have if you are using Zapdos in a defensive role. Tentacruel and Forretress make good partners for this reason with their Rapid Spin and Toxic Spikes support.</p>

[Optional Changes]

<p>Zapdos is a sturdy user of Rain Dance and can back it up take advantage of it with a 100% accurate STAB Thunder off of one of the highest Special Attack stats in OU. It can also use run a the defensive set utilizing with Rest and Sleep Talk that was standard in Advance R/S, but it is much more very difficult to use in the heavily offensive D/P metagame of the 4th generation than it was in Advance. Thunder Wave is good as ever to support a slower team, especially one carrying with a slow sweeper like Rhyperior. Discharge can replace Thunderbolt on any set to abuse is a very viable choice for Zapdos thanks to its 30% paralysis rate at the cost of a lower Base Power. Zapdos is also capable of utilizing a Metal Sound set, but it is very similar to the offensive set already listed here, and requires a lot of more team support than it is usually worth.</p>

<p>Generally, you'll want a defensive Zapdos to have nearly maxed out HP and a ton of EVs in either of its defenses. It is important to remember that using 248 HP EVs is more beneficial than fully maximizing HP, since it allows you to switch into Stealth Rock five times instead of four, in addition to reducing residual damage. Using max HP does allow you recover additional HP with Leftovers, however. but the ever-present sandstorm will nullify Leftovers recovery. On sweeping sets, you should invest in Speed. On offensive Zapdos, you should always max Speed to at least Speed tie with opposing max Speed investment base 100 Speed Pokemon Salamence. The defensive Roost sets can opt for a faster spread if you want them to beat Lucario more easily; 176 Speed EVs with a Speed-boosting nature will outspeed all non-Scarfed Lucario. HP should then be maxed, and the remaining 80 EVs should be poured into Special Attack or Defense. On more defensive Zapdos sets, it doesn't hurt to invest in a bit more Speed to outspeed key threats.; Zapdos is a very fast Pokemon, so if you want to take advantage of its ability to outspeed Pokemon like Lucario, then by all means do.</p> ((Why does this paragraph even exist? The optimal EVs are explained in every set already.))

[Counters]

<p>Blissey and Snorlax stop all of Zapdos's attacks cold. Electric-types do well against Zapdos, especially those who are immune to Thunderbolt, like Jolteon or Electivire. Flygon and Gliscor have a relatively easy time against Zapdos without lacking Hidden Power Ice, while Swampert can wall Zapdos without that aren't running Hidden Power Grass. Grass-types such as Celebi or Roserade can do function well against some Zapdos, but must be wary of Heat Wave and U-turn. Steelix also does decently against versions who lack Heat Wave, and even boasts an immunity to Toxic. ((Steelix is so rare and sparingly useful in OU, it's not worth mentioning)) With Sand Stream boosting its Special Defense, Tyranitar makes an excellent counter response to Zapdos, particularly the specially defensive versions. Although Zapdos can conceivably stall out Stone Edge's low PP—Pressure only gives Tyranitar four chances to use it—, Tyranitar will can beat Zapdos by using Crunch.</p>

For the record, about the IV business:

Bold Zapdos (HP Grass - 70BP) : 14 Atk / 30 SpA
Bold Zapdos (HP Ice - 70BP) : 22 Atk / 30 Def
Calm Zapdos (HP Ice - 70BP) :
19 Atk / 30 Spe

This is why only the Specially Defensive set needs 36 Spe EVs and not the Physically Defensive set. That's important, because right now you have 36 Spe EVs in your Physically Defensive set, which is unnecessary. I added a sentence to an analysis and fixed the spreads for you above, as I'm sure you saw.

Cheers.

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You'll probably wanna throw in the legal IVs for hidden power section I put into the on site version:

[Legal IVs for Hidden Power]
<p>The following IVs are necessary for each Hidden Power type with the given natures, assuming all other IVs are 31:</p>

<dl>
<dt>Hidden Power Grass</dt>
<dd>Modest: 30 Def / 30 SpA</dd>
<dd>Timid: 2 Atk / 30 SpA</dd>
<dd>Bold: 14 Atk / 30 SpA</dd>
<dd>Calm: 14 Atk / 30 SpA</dd>


<dt>Hidden Power Ice</dt>
<dd>Modest: 10 Atk / 30 Def</dd>
<dd>Timid: 22 Atk / 30 Def</dd>
<dd>Bold: 10 Atk / 30 Def</dd>
<dd>Calm: 19 Atk / 30 Spe</dd>

<dt>Hidden Power Fighting</dt>
<dd>Modest: 22 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe</dd>
<dd>Timid: 30 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe</dd>
<dd>Bold: 10 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe</dd>
<dd>Calm: 3 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe</dd>
</dl>
 

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I'd slash Agility with Roost on the Offensive set and make comments as to how it works as a sweeper with Agility. Then again, it might need some testing to be backed up on.
 

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Dusk, almost all of your stuff is in. Thanks a ton for all of the prose edits, the analysis sounds much more pleasing now (yeah, I actually went through after your edits and read the analysis out loud -.-)

Eric, I actually removed the Hidden Power section as it really didn't tell you anything you didn't already know from reading the analysis, but should Phil or someone tell me to add it back again, then I'll definitely include that stuff about the IVs, ty :)

CM, there was originally a seperate Agility set, but it kinda wasn't particularly good, as the additional Speed really doesnt do loads aside from letting Zappy outspeed random Choice Scarf mons and Starmie, but after this rounds QC testing (Zapdos is being tested by rem), then we'll see whats what; rem said he planned on testing Agility
 
[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Roost
move 3: Thunder Wave / Light Screen
move 4: Heat Wave / Hidden Power Ice
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 224 SpD / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is similar to the Defensive Roost set, but with a spread focused more on Special Defense. Though the sets are similar, they play very differently; the Special Defense EVs allow Zapdos to switch in much more easily against special attackers like Heatran. Zapdos still has enough Defense to switch in on most unboosted neutral physical attacks, though super effective hits will significantly damage it.</p>
Don't mean to sound harsh, but there is absolutely no reason for this set to exist anymore in this metagame. Specially defensive Zapdos was only viable when Togekiss, Yanmega, and Hypnosis Gengar were running around way back in D/P and no one has spoken up about this until now.. but I don't know why you would ever run Zapdos as a special tank. It is stealth rock weak and doesnt resist ANY common special moves (okay grass but come on). Also, it claims that you can switch in easier against Heatran, but a Heatran Choice Scarf Fire Blast is doing a minimum of 40% damage to you (easy 2HKO with Stealth Rock). Can someone elaborate on why this deserves a set?


[SET]
name: SubRoost
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Roost
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Hidden Power Ice / Toxic
item: Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 184 SpD / 76 Spe
This set is kinda shitty. Not that Sub Roost isn't a shitty set because Zapdos is very good with it I mean that the way this analysis for it is structured. For starters, if your going to be toxic stalling, you want way more speed than 280.. Also, what is the random special defense EVs for when Zapdos is supposed to be stalling out shit it can't normally beat like Tyranitar?! I really find no need to give Zapdos such a heavy Special Defense investment. So for an EV spread / set outline I would try this:

name: SubRoost
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Roost
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Hidden Power Ice / Baton Pass (list Toxic in AC since you should run this with T-SpikeS)
nature: Timid
evs: 192 HP / 64 Def / 252 Spe

Those EVs accomplish 369 HP / 222 Def / 216 SpD / 328 Spe. This optimizes Zapdos' defensive potential with your remaining EVs by giving it a slight physical defensive focus since your dropping down a Leftovers threshold (current Zapdos isn't even running Max HP because max is divisable by 8). Remember, Zapdos is switching in mainly on Iron Heads, Bullet Punches, Meteor Mashes and shit.. As a result, this Zapdos is taking phsycial hits something like 4-5% better than the current spread, and is a whole lot faster.

Also, Baton Pass is an incredible option on SubRoost Zapdos. Being weak to Ice and Rock.. there are a few things Zapdos can pass that Sub to on that Tyranitar Stone Edge that might appreciate it COUGH LUCARIO COUGH.
 

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Okay RL, you seem to be the only person thus far (including various Quality Control members) who have had a problem with Specially Defensive Zapdos, so I'll elaborate on why it has a set (and is a very popular set, in fact). Specially Defensive Zapdos obviously isn't as useful as physically defensive variants in most situations due to the physically-dominant metagame, but the fact is that specially defensive Zapdos is still very viable. It can switch in on special attackers much more easily than phyiscal attackers, which helps a ton when you switch in on stuff like Starmie. The set obviously works best with Rapid Spin support, so your point about Heatran isn't as valid when you consider that you (should) always use specially defensive Zappy with Rapid Spin. Fact is, Zapdos sometimes needs to come in on special attacks or whatever, and the set allows it to do so much more easily; it makes a great specially bulky Pokemon for teams who need said role filled but dont want to use Blissey or something. You're basically the only person who I've encountered since this update has been posted who has a problem with Specially Defensive Zapdos, and while I can kinda see where you are coming from, the set definitely stays.

As for the SubRoost stuff, the EV spread that you outlined actually looks pretty nice, so I think that I'll employ it. I've found the current EV spread quite useful for switching in on and stalling out mons like Hidden Power Ice Celebi, but I can definitely see the merit in a more physically defensive spread. As for the Speed thing, you're probably right. I'll make what you have listed the primary EV spread. Regarding Baton Pass, it seems like a cool option, but I'm not comfortable slashing it with Hidden Power Ice in place of Toxic. While it's obvious that you should always run SubRoost Zappy with TSpikes, loads of Pokemon are immune to Toxic Spikes, and so Toxic helps when you are trying to stall out those Pokemon. Baton Pass definitely seems like a cool option, however, and so I'll make a few sentences about it in Optional Changes for sure.

Thanks for your input ^_^
 
I mean maybe it works but I just hardly see how Special Defensive Zapdos would ever prove more useful than physically defensive Zapdos, especially since there are much better things to be using to tank your special hits. It's always said you can't assume Stealth Rock isn't on the field, and with it on the field Zapdos even with a Special Defensive investment isn't switching into things like Infernape, Starmie, and Heatran because they ALL 2HKO it easily with Stealth Rock. I always thought special "tanks" had to have the key resistances first, then the investment. But I see this being completely outclassed by something like Milotic or even a RestTalk Raikou. But eh.. I just have never really seen this thing used against me maybe thats why I'm just theorymoning.
 
I'm going to have to agree with RaikouLover on this one. The only thing SpD Zapdos really helps against is Pain Split Gengar (who can still 2HKO with Life Orb Shadow Ball with Stealth Rock), and maybe Suicune. I don't really see the current set working too well as is, especially with Stealth Rock being so prevalent. However, if you were to include Roar, then it might prove to be more viable as it can Roar away Calm Mind Jirachi, Suicune, and Celebi, something Blissey cannot do (a niche previously held by Latias). Light Screen is easily the most expendable option here, and seeing as Tyranitar and Blissey will still counter you and are barely affected by it, should be dropped for Roar. I also totally agree that the EV spread for SubRoost Zapdos is very wacky. A better EV spread is 248 HP / 84 Def / 176 Bold which allows you take physical hits fairly well and still stall Blissey while outspeeding Heatran and Lucario. I'm not sure about maxing Speed because you aren't guaranteed to be faster than Jirachi / Salamence and I'd rather invest in the bulk rather than rely on a 50/50 chance.
 
While that is true Metanite.. the speed means you can OHKO an uber :). But in all seriousness, max speed also means you OHKO Gliscor before he can be a dick and use taunt. That was the main reason for pushing so much speed. But at the point of outspeeding Gliscor (216 EVs) at that point is where you may as well tie with Mence / Jirachi. Outspeeding Jolly Gyarados (who is becoming annoyingly common now) is also a good perk.
 

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Eric, I actually removed the Hidden Power section as it really didn't tell you anything you didn't already know from reading the analysis, but should Phil or someone tell me to add it back again, then I'll definitely include that stuff about the IVs, ty :)
I'm not quite sure why you think this, a vast majority of those spreads are not listed elsewhere in the analyses. People need to know what's legal, it's annoying messing about on shoddy trying to find a workable spread. Heatran has it, and other legends with annoying IV/Nature issues should as well.
 
It would be very nice to have a Hidden Power IV section for users to refer to at the bottom of the analysis, should they not want to use any one particular set or read through the full analysis. Also, ete very nicely posted it all formatted and everything, so please just paste it in.
 
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[Overview]

<p>Zapdos has an excellent defensive typing, which boasts resistances and immunities to the most common moves of top-tier OU threats such as Scizor, Lucario, and Metagross. Although Zapdos’s Stealth Rock weakness limits its walling capabilities, Roost and Rapid Spin support help combat that problem. Zapdos is capable of taking on many of the OU tier's top physical and special threats thanks to its all-around great stats and typing. Its high Special Attack and good Speed allow it to mean that it can also perform wonderfully in an offensive role, and it can even use Baton Pass to effectively support its teammates with stat boosts. Unfortunately, Zapdos struggles with the ever-popular Tyranitar (among other Pokémon), although this can be remedied with proper team support. Despite a few flaws, Zapdos is still a very effective Pokémon, and is a threat who should always be considered when building a team.</p>

[SET]
name: Physically Defensive
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Roost
move 3: Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Heat Wave / Roar
item: Leftovers
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 228 Def / 32 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>With only two weaknesses, good stats overall, Roost for recovery, and Pressure to waste opponents' PP, this Zapdos makes a great tank. Given these traits, Zapdos can come in with relative safety against various OU tanks, walls, and sweepers. From there, you can stall out your opponents with Roost, or deal some damage with Thunderbolt, which will hurt even with no EV investment thanks to Zapdos’s base 125 Special Attack.</p>

<p>With Heat Wave, Zapdos can run Hidden Power Grass over Hidden Power Ice, losing super effective coverage on Gliscor and Salamence, but gaining the ability to beat its biggest counter, Swampert. If you decide to run Roar, use Hidden Power Ice so that you will have better type coverage. Heat Wave OHKOes Scizor, who might otherwise Roostoff the damage dealt by a neutral Thunderbolt.The 32 Speed EVs are used so that Zapdos you can still outrun max Speed non-Scarf Tyranitar.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Even though this Zapdos makes a great defensive addition to any team, it's fairly easy to wall. As with any special attacker, Blissey is the most effective counter to this set. A bulky user of Pursuit can help deal with Blissey; Scizor is a perfect candidate for this thanks to his sky-high Attack and access to Superpower. Metagross is another excellent choice, as it he resists both of Zapdos’s weaknesses and can seriously damage Blissey with his STAB Meteor Mash. Zapdos also has issues with Stealth Rock, making a Rapid Spinner, such as Starmie, very beneficial on your team.</p>

<p>Other counters to Zapdos vary depending on which moves you choose. Swampert can easily stop any Zapdos who lacks Hidden Power Grass, while Celebi does not fear Zapdos who lack Heat Wave. Tyranitar’s high Special Defense and STAB Rock-type moves make him a suitable counter to Zapdos as well. A Celebi of your own can force out Swampert with the threat of a Leaf Storm or Grass Knot. If you really fear Pursuit users, then Shaymin can accomplish many of the same things that Celebi can, but needs to run a more defensive set in order to do so.</p>

[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Roost
move 3: Thunder Wave / Light Screen
move 4: Heat Wave / Hidden Power Ice
item: Leftovers
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 228 SpD / 32 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is similar to the Physically Defensive set, but with a spread focused more on Special Defense. Though the sets appear similar, they play very differently. The Special Defense EVs allow Zapdos to switch in much more easily against special attackers like Heatran and Starmie, two Pokémon who Zapdos usually has trouble coming in on. Zapdos still has enough Defense to switch in on most unboosted neutral physical attacks, though super effective hits will significantly damage it.</p>

<p>Thunderbolt is Zapdos’s primary STAB attack, and even with no Special Attack EVs, it will deal a healthy amount of damage to any Pokémon who doesn’t resist it. Roost allows Zapdos to restore 50% of its health in one turn, which helps on such a defensive Pokémon. Thunder Wave is the main choice in the third slot to provide paralysis support, but Light Screen can be used to better sponge special hits and support your team. Heat Wave is the best choice in the final slot to hit Steel-types, but Hidden Power Ice can be used instead if you wish to hit Dragon- and Ground-types. If using Hidden Power Ice, an alternate EV spread of 248 HP / 224 SpD / 36 Spe should be used with 19 Attack IVs and 30 Speed IVs.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This set runs into many of the same problems as the previous set. Blissey and Tyranitar still wall this set. Metagross, Scizor, Tyranitar, and Machamp are very good partners to this set to help cover Zapdos’s weakness to the aforementioned Pokémon. Swampert and Celebi are also good switch-ins against this set, although they will struggle to beat Zapdos one-on-one. Toxic Spikes are a great complement to this set since Zapdos’s counters are usually grounded, specially-based walls who rely on recovery to win. It is also important to note that this set will have more difficulty countering powerful physical threats due to its lower Defense stat, so make sure to back Zapdos up appropriately with physically bulky Pokémon like Gliscor, Rotom-A, and Skarmory.</p>

[SET]
name: SubRoost
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Roost
move 3: Thunderbolt
move 4: Hidden Power Ice / Toxic
item: Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 192 HP / 64 Def / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Zapdos’s best way of annoying the opponent is stalling them out with Substitute and Roost when Toxic Spikes are up, and it does quite a good job at it. This set is designed to be used in conjunction with Toxic Spikes, and aims to accumulate poison damage on some of Zapdos’s usual switch-ins, while taking advantage of Pressure to waste your opponent's PP. Common victims of this strategy include Tyranitar, non-Cleric Blissey, and Thick Fat Snorlax. Substitute and Roost, when used wisely, will block status and keep Zapdos you at high health.</p>

<p>Almost all Flying-type Pokémon immune to Toxic Spikes will fall to Zapdos’s STAB Thunderbolt, or in Gliscor's case, Hidden Power Ice. Toxic is also a viable option in the last slot if you decide to not run this set alongside Toxic Spikes, though it is recommended that you do. Toxic has additional usefulness in poisoning Pokémon immune to Toxic Spikes, namely Pokémon with Levitate, such as Rotom-A, who would will otherwise switch in and set up on Zapdos. Thankfully, few Steel-type Pokémon can reliably switch in against this Zapdos. Heatran and Calm Mind Wish Jirachi can give this set trouble, as well as Metagross with Ice Punch. Metagross without Ice Punch, however, can be outstalled and worn down with Thunderbolt, while Empoleon has very little chance of achieving much.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This Zapdos successfully combines the ability to outstall most walls and outspeed many common Pokémon, such as Adamant Lucario. Maximizing Speed can also prove to be a worthwhile investment on this set, as Zapdos can freely set up a Substitute before taking hits from threats such as Jolly Lucario. It also gets a free Substitute if it comes in on a Choice-locked Ground-type move, such as Choice Scarf Tyranitar's Earthquake.</p>

<p>Baton Pass can also be used in place of Hidden Power Ice. Baton Pass allows Zapdos to pass a Substitute to a teammate when a counter comes in. For example, if Tyranitar switches in on Zapdos, it can Baton Pass out to a Lucario waiting in the wings. At that point, Lucario will have a Substitute up, and will be able to easily set up a Swords Dance and sweep. Baton Pass also helps for scouting Zapdos’s counters, although if you're interested in doing that, you will be better off with U-turn.</p>

<p>Since the aim of this set is to stall, this Zapdos works best when paired with Toxic Spikes. Forretress and Tentacruel resist the Ice-type attacks aimed at Zapdos, can set up Toxic Spikes, and are able to Rapid Spin Stealth Rock away to and assist Zapdos further. Roserade and Smeargle do not work particularly well with Zapdos defensively, but they deserve a mention because they are the only other OU Pokémon who can reliably set up Toxic Spikes for your team, and can put a Pokémon to sleep with Sleep Powder and Spore, respectively. If you find yourself in a situation where Zapdos is easily countered by your opponent’s team, Baton Pass might prove to be a worthwhile option in conjunction with Substitute, allowing your teammates to get in for free even if Zapdos is incapable of stalling out the opposition.</p>

[SET]
name: Offensive
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Heat Wave
move 3: Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Ice
move 4: Roost
item: Life Orb / Leftovers
nature: Timid / Modest
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Offensive Zapdos can be quite a threat to teams that expect a weaker, more defensive Zapdos. The given attacks provide surprisingly good coverage in OU, and with Zapdos’s massive Special Attack, can heavily damage many common Pokémon. With Hidden Power Ice as your last move, no Pokémon outside of Lanturn resists the entirety of this set. Zapdos is a very durable Pokémon, even with no EV investment in its defenses, and with Roost, it can still be very difficult to take down.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Life Orb is the recommended item for the extra power, but Leftovers is viable as well for improving Zapdos’s longevity. If Swampert isn't a problem for you, Hidden Power Grass can be replaced by Hidden Power Ice for a psuedo-BoltBeam combination, which provides excellent type coverage. A Timid nature is preferred in order to outspeed more threats, but a Modest nature can be used if you would prefer rather more power.</p>

<p>This set is a bit more difficult to counter than the defensive sets because it makes use of Zapdos’s impressive Special Attack stat and type coverage, but it is still stopped cold by Blissey. Physically bulky Pursuit users are a great way to deal with her. Because of the lack of defensive investment, this Zapdos is especially prone to revenge killing. When using this set, it is important that you also pair it up with Pokémon who can switch in on the likes of Mamoswine's Ice Shard, Lucario's ExtremeSpeed, and to a lesser extent, Scizor's Bullet Punch. A Skarmory, Choice Scarf Magnezone, or your own Scizor can be used to remedy these weaknesses. Skarmory gets a special mention as he can effectively use Spikes to rack up residual damage on the opponent and punish them for switching in and out of Zapdos.</p>

[SET]
name: Choice
move 1: Thunderbolt
move 2: Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass
move 3: Heat Wave
move 4: U-turn
item: Choice Scarf / Choice Specs
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Choice Scarf Zapdos is meant to lead, and gives issues to common leads like Azelf, Metagross, and Heatran. If the opposing lead is not a good match up, Zapdos can U-turn out to an appropriate counter. Hidden Power Ice is chosen because it complements Thunderbolt and allows Zapdos to revenge kill Dragonite and Salamence. If defeating Swampert is of absolute importance, Hidden Power Grass is usable on this set, though Hidden Power Ice is preferred. With Heat Wave, Zapdos can reliably revenge kill opposing Steel-types such as Agility Metagross. The given EVs allow Choice Scarf Zapdos to Speed tie with +1 Dragon Dance Salamence, and possibly revenge kill him with Hidden Power Ice. This is very important, as Dragon Dance Salamence is arguably the most threatening sweeper in today's metagame. Choice Specs could be used as an alternative item on this set for more power, but Choice Scarf is generally preferred as it allows Zapdos to act as a more effective revenge killer.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Much like with other Zapdos sets, Blissey will wall you to no end. Swampert is a good match-up against this set, as is Tyranitar (though both need to watch out for Hidden Power Grass). If your opponent is especially gutsy, they could even send in a Water-type to sponge Heat Wave or Hidden Power Ice and force you to take more damage from Stealth Rock. In order to fix these problems, Scizor makes a great partner, since it is capable of dealing with Tyranitar and Blissey quite easily. Zapdos’s weakness to Stealth Rock is a massive hindrance for a Choice set, as without Roost you are sacrificing one of its best assets in its defensive longevity. Because of that, pairing this Zapdos with a Wish user such as Jirachi or your own Blissey can greatly prolong Zapdos’s lifespan. Rapid Spin support is also helpful; Starmie and Tentacruel are good choices for this role.</p>

[SET]
name: Baton Pass
move 1: Agility
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Baton Pass
move 4: Thunderbolt
item: Leftovers
nature: Timid
evs: 248 HP / 136 Def / 88 SpA / 36 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This set is fairly straightforward: set up an Agility while your opponent switches to their Zapdos counter, Substitute while you're faster than the opposing Pokémon, and then Baton Pass to a sweeper with low Speed. Physical attackers are often the best choices as they scare off Blissey and fare well against Electric-types like Jolteon, who are common switch-ins to Zapdos. It is important to note that this set is meant to be played defensively, utilizing Zapdos’s amazing typing and bulk to get the Baton Pass off instead of just boosting your stats, setting up a Substitute, and attempting to sweep.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>This set has a defensive set-up to ensure that Zapdos has the bulk for pulling off an Agility and Substitute. You can afford to cut down on Speed here because you will be outspeeding the vast majority of OU everyone after an Agility, except Choice Scarfers like Starmie. The 36 Speed EVs are recommended to allow you to beat Jolly Tyranitar even if your Speed IV is 30 (because of Hidden Power Ice), but you may want to use a bit more Speed in order to outpace common Choice Scarfers such as Flygon or Heatran after an Agility. The Defense is there so Zapdos you can take physical hits from Pokémon like Gyarados or Metagross, but you can shift it to Special Defense if you want to stand a better chance against Starmie, Heatran, and other powerful special attackers.</p>

<p>As with most Baton Passers, this Zapdos is fairly difficult for your opponent to counter directly. Good supporters would be Pokémon such as Metagross or Lucario, who are relatively easy to Baton Pass to with their resistances to both of Zapdos’s weaknesses. Other slow-but-powerful Pokémon can use this to their advantage, such as Swords Dance Heracross, Swords Dance Rhyperior, and Nasty Plot Porygon-Z. Machamp is also a good choice, as he is extremely difficult to deal with once he gets an Agility boost under his belt. Since nearly every Pokémon in the game benefits from a +2 Speed boost, this Zapdos will surely be an asset to your team. Zapdos can effectively Baton Pass Substitutes as well, something many Pokémon benefit greatly from. Frail Pokémon in particular appreciate having a Substitute Passed to them, as the Substitute it allows them to take a hit that they would otherwise take heavy damage from.</p>

[Team Options]

<p>Like nearly every special attacker in the game, Zapdos is walled by Blissey. It is important to carry a Pokémon who can reliably switch into her so that Zapdos does not get hit with a harmful status effect. Pokémon such as Tyranitar, Machamp, Metagross, and Snorlax are perfect for this role. Since most of Zapdos’s counters are vulnerable to Pursuit, you will want to pair Zapdos with a reliable user of the move, such as Scizor or Tyranitar.</p>

<p>Bulky Ground-types such as Swampert and Hippowdon can also reliably counter Zapdos. Hidden Power Grass is mentioned on almost every set solely to prevent these Pokémon from easily walling you. Using a Grass-type such as Celebi or Shaymin can help in getting rid of these Pokémon. Bulky Water-types, such as Suicune, Gyarados, or your own Swampert, could be just as useful when in dealing with these threats.</p>

<p>One of Zapdos’s biggest issues is its weakness to Stealth Rock. For this reason, Rapid Spin support is hugely appreciated. Life Orb Starmie makes a great partner as it can reliably deal with the Ground-types who wall Zapdos and can also defeat common Spin blockers with its STAB Hydro Pump. Toxic Spikes will greatly benefit Zapdos in stalling out its counters, so they are very beneficial to have if Zapdos is playing a defensive role you are using Zapdos in a defensive role. Tentacruel and Forretress make good partners for this reason with their Rapid Spin and Toxic Spikes support.</p>

[Legal IVs for Hidden Power]

<p>The following IVs are necessary for each Hidden Power type with the given natures, assuming all other IVs are 31:</p>

<dl>
<dt>Hidden Power Grass</dt>
<dd>Modest: 30 Def / 30 SpA</dd>
<dd>Timid: 2 Atk / 30 SpA</dd>
<dd>Bold: 14 Atk / 30 SpA</dd>
<dd>Calm: 14 Atk / 30 SpA</dd>

<dt>Hidden Power Ice</dt>
<dd>Modest: 10 Atk / 30 Def</dd>
<dd>Timid: 22 Atk / 30 Def</dd>
<dd>Bold: 10 Atk / 30 Def</dd>
<dd>Calm: 19 Atk / 30 Spe</dd>

<dt>Hidden Power Fighting</dt>
<dd>Modest: 22 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe</dd>
<dd>Timid: 30 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe</dd>
<dd>Bold: 10 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe</dd>
<dd>Calm: 3 Atk / 30 Def / 30 SpA / 30 SpD / 30 Spe</dd>
</dl>

[Optional Changes]

<p>Zapdos is a sturdy user of Rain Dance and can take advantage of it with a 100% accurate STAB Thunder off of one of the highest Special Attack stats in OU. It can also run the defensive set with Rest and Sleep Talk that was standard in ADV R/S, but it is very difficult to use in the heavily offensive D/P metagame. Thunder Wave is a good choice to support a slower team, especially one with a slow sweeper like Rhyperior. Discharge can replace Thunderbolt on any set to abuse its 30% paralysis rate at the cost of a lower Base Power. Zapdos is also capable of utilizing a Metal Sound set, but it requires a lot more team support than it is usually worth.</p>

<p>Generally, you'll want a defensive Zapdos to have nearly maxed out HP and a ton of EVs in either of its defenses. It is important to remember that using 248 HP EVs is more beneficial than fully maximizing HP, since it allows you to switch into Stealth Rock five times instead of four. Using max HP does allow you recover additional HP with Leftovers, however. On offensive Zapdos, you should always max Speed to at least Speed tie with opposing max investment base 100 Speed Pokémon. The defensive Roost sets can opt for a faster spread if you want them to beat Lucario more easily; 176 Speed EVs with a Speed-boosting nature will outspeed all non-Scarfed Lucario. HP should then be maxed, and the remaining 80 EVs should be poured into Special Attack or Defense. On more defensive Zapdos sets, it doesn't hurt to invest in a bit more Speed to outspeed key threats.</p>

[Counters]

<p>Blissey and Snorlax stop all of Zapdos’s attacks cold. Electric-types do well against Zapdos, especially those who are immune to Thunderbolt, like Jolteon or Electivire. Flygon and Gliscor have a relatively easy time against Zapdos lacking Hidden Power Ice, while Swampert can wall Zapdos who aren't running Hidden Power Grass. Grass-types such as Celebi or Roserade function well against some Zapdos, but must be wary of Heat Wave and U-turn. With Sand Stream boosting its Special Defense, Tyranitar makes an excellent response to Zapdos, particularly specially defensive versions. Although Zapdos can conceivably stall out Stone Edge's low PP - Pressure only gives Tyranitar four chances to use it - Tyranitar can beat Zapdos by using Crunch.</p>
Nice write-up. I found very few errors and most of them were concerning prose. I put in the accent on each occurrence of "Pokemon" and replaced "Zapdos'" with "Zapdos's". Apart from that, I found very few errors. Great job!
 

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Thanks, I've added your changes :) This is now 100% good on grammar, so when rem finishes his QC stuff, this'll be ready to upload.
 

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