you realize there are more parts of a console generation than nintendo right
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I do that's why I said the Wii/Wii U generation which includes all the other consoles around during those generations. I just didn't think to type them because i thought that people would understand. Guess I was wrong.
I have to agree, I think the Wii, 360, PS3 era of gaming was pretty terrible. That was the era when DLC started to become a thing, it was also when just about every game had to have photo realistic humans as the main characters (back then it was novel), which is not only boring to look at, it also takes way longer and is more expensive, so naturally that drives up the cost of the games and consoles in turn. Sonic 06 proved to the world that people will buy a completely unfinished, unpolished shitshow even in the internet age. The Wii was basically a slightly more powerful Gamecube with motion controls, which Microsoft and Sony would (badly) copy. Yeah I've got no love for that era. Think of all the modern gaming trends you hate, most of them started right there.
My personal favourite era of gaming was the PS2 era. Games were much more varied in art style and genre (we weren't up to our eyes in FPSs), and while there were a fair few turkeys, patches weren't a thing so most games were actually finished when they launched.
My personal favourite era of gaming was the PS2 era. Games were much more varied in art style and genre (we weren't up to our eyes in FPSs), and while there were a fair few turkeys, patches weren't a thing so most games were actually finished when they launched.
While we're on the subject of consoles, I'll put my best foot forward and say the 3DS is the greatest video game console to ever exist, and you cannot change my mind. Yes, even greater than the Switch, the PS2, or any other system you might be thinking of.
I chock that up mostly to the library of games available - the Alolan Pokemon games being the main selling point for me (and for favourite game of all time is in the three-way tie between it and Xenoblade(s) 1 and 3 for me), as well as other series like Fire Emblem and (to a lesser extent) SMT (I think base IV and SJR are kinda mid, but I won't take it away from you if you enjoy those games - also IV Apoc' is underrated af and I'll stand by that). I also have to give my undying respect to the 3ds modding scene, and Pretendo for it's efforts to keep the post-shutdown servers alive (I've been balls deep into it for about the past year or so, and even I'm pleasantly surprised how easy it is (and yes, I'm well aware of the memes)).
As for our current generation... I'll concede it could be better. Sony and Microsoft can't stop finding ways to be complete fucking dumbasses, and I think even the big N is starting to fatigue a little (not that their community issues haven't pre-dated that to some extent, what with the DMCA hammer they have making everyone look like a nail). If I had to be impartial:
- The Switch having access to all three Xenoblade games is well worth the price of admission alone IMO. If you're a Fire Emblem fan, chances are you're also eating well. Current generations of Pokemon have made me realise the love-hate relationship I have with the series in general.
- If you have a PS4, Scarlet Nexus is absolute Kino, and I cannot recommend it enough. Slick H&S gameplay, looks graphically good without Unreal jerking itself off, great character line-up, a story that has frankly aged like fine wine IMO (despite some slightly questionable pacing decisions), and whoever decided to hire The Oral Cigarettes for the OP and OST deserves 17 raises in rapid fucking succession. Persona fans were also eating for a while, but with P5R now going cross-platform, I can't really credit the PS4 for that.
- lmao wtf Xbox.
Although if I'm going to post more than a room-temperature take here, I'll say that if the state of modern gaming dies tomorrow, I don't think we'd be missing out on much. I don't say that in a 'I hate gaming' kind of way (perish the thought!), I say that because there are so many obscure yet great titles on older hardware archived for eternity, that we could honestly last the next 50 years retracing our steps alone. Be honest with yourselves: how big are your backlog(s) on stuff with back-dated discrepancies between then and now? I should know, mine is huge.
I chock that up mostly to the library of games available - the Alolan Pokemon games being the main selling point for me (and for favourite game of all time is in the three-way tie between it and Xenoblade(s) 1 and 3 for me), as well as other series like Fire Emblem and (to a lesser extent) SMT (I think base IV and SJR are kinda mid, but I won't take it away from you if you enjoy those games - also IV Apoc' is underrated af and I'll stand by that). I also have to give my undying respect to the 3ds modding scene, and Pretendo for it's efforts to keep the post-shutdown servers alive (I've been balls deep into it for about the past year or so, and even I'm pleasantly surprised how easy it is (and yes, I'm well aware of the memes)).
As for our current generation... I'll concede it could be better. Sony and Microsoft can't stop finding ways to be complete fucking dumbasses, and I think even the big N is starting to fatigue a little (not that their community issues haven't pre-dated that to some extent, what with the DMCA hammer they have making everyone look like a nail). If I had to be impartial:
- The Switch having access to all three Xenoblade games is well worth the price of admission alone IMO. If you're a Fire Emblem fan, chances are you're also eating well. Current generations of Pokemon have made me realise the love-hate relationship I have with the series in general.
- If you have a PS4, Scarlet Nexus is absolute Kino, and I cannot recommend it enough. Slick H&S gameplay, looks graphically good without Unreal jerking itself off, great character line-up, a story that has frankly aged like fine wine IMO (despite some slightly questionable pacing decisions), and whoever decided to hire The Oral Cigarettes for the OP and OST deserves 17 raises in rapid fucking succession. Persona fans were also eating for a while, but with P5R now going cross-platform, I can't really credit the PS4 for that.
- lmao wtf Xbox.
Although if I'm going to post more than a room-temperature take here, I'll say that if the state of modern gaming dies tomorrow, I don't think we'd be missing out on much. I don't say that in a 'I hate gaming' kind of way (perish the thought!), I say that because there are so many obscure yet great titles on older hardware archived for eternity, that we could honestly last the next 50 years retracing our steps alone. Be honest with yourselves: how big are your backlog(s) on stuff with back-dated discrepancies between then and now? I should know, mine is huge.
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this was absolutely the generation of DLC, this was literally Skyrim Horse Armor days. This was buy Call of Duty map for $10, this was Battlefield online pass only included through code in the box, no trade ins to Gamestop.
also like. mario galaxy 1 and 2. kirby. two zeldas. donkey kong. mario kart. xenoblade, super paper mario, brawl and metroid prime 3
thats basically it
for gamecube we can say
wind waker
luigi's mansion
super mario sunshine
metroid prime / prime 2
fzero gx
mario kart
the thousand year door
pokemon coloseum / xd
pikmin 1 / 2
melee
star fox assault
im not even a big fan of the gamecube but its exclusive library fucks the wii in a first party lineup, the only must plays from the wii imo are galaxy, xenoblade, paper mario; twilight princess is also a gamecube game, and the rest felt like very replacable games in later gens.
also the wii u isn't the same gen. it's a different gen
As someone who wants to look more into Wii U modding, the Wii U itself kinda feels like half a generation (do I think Sm4sh and XCX were worth the price of admission? Let's put a pin in that for now...). Although I will frontload this by saying that I think the WiiU *overall* is a relatively inoffensive little device, being a 'Wii and a bit extra' (side note: you could make the argument for points in the 3DS's court because of DS backwards compatibility), and the internal hard drive limits being circumvented by external hard drives being the simplest convenience that few other consoles seem willing to replicate.
That back library though... yeesh. I'm something of a hot takes guy myself, and even I find the dirth of games kinda disturbing. XCX and Sm4sh are the only two I have played for the consoles, and I'm looking into Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101 atm (see also the potential of fan patches for the FE Ugdral (or however you spell that word) duology). Other than that, Minecraft, and maybe BotW if you're a modding buff like me... idk if there's much here that I'm desperate to jump at.
That back library though... yeesh. I'm something of a hot takes guy myself, and even I find the dirth of games kinda disturbing. XCX and Sm4sh are the only two I have played for the consoles, and I'm looking into Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101 atm (see also the potential of fan patches for the FE Ugdral (or however you spell that word) duology). Other than that, Minecraft, and maybe BotW if you're a modding buff like me... idk if there's much here that I'm desperate to jump at.
I think it's really hard to determine one single best gen because when we examine it in retrospect, it's tainted by nostalgia and seeing only the memorable outliers
That said, I think the Wii/360/PS3 was when things turned out to the worse. It's when unfinished games started becoming more and more the practice and when delivering a half product was becoming normal. The PS4 era was a better by having a more established indie scene and having more variety, but the issues that started last gen got worse. PS5 era is legit awful, we are 4 years in and nothing is happening
I think the PS1 and PS2 eras were the best
That said, I think the Wii/360/PS3 was when things turned out to the worse. It's when unfinished games started becoming more and more the practice and when delivering a half product was becoming normal. The PS4 era was a better by having a more established indie scene and having more variety, but the issues that started last gen got worse. PS5 era is legit awful, we are 4 years in and nothing is happening
I think the PS1 and PS2 eras were the best
I think the PS2 era would probably be in the running for my 2nd favourite console. That back catalogue is HUGE, and the Xenosaga trilogy would be on the list of some of my favourites... IF XS3 didn't commit some of the worst character assassination and plot retcons a series could ever pull (and no, you are not hallucinating that page count).
we literally had to ban rv miraidon in a tier with regenvest ting-lu and ice scales arceus-ground
For the record, I'm Gen Z, my first console was the Wii. I love the DS. I was a Nintendo kid and I played New Super Mario Bros Wii over and over and over. Mario Kart Wii was like my second game ever.
PS5 era is good IMO because indie is at its best, AA is at its best. Even AAA has actual variety again. People look at Concords but not Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Dragon's Dogma 2, Armored Core 6, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart, and so much more that would literally not be able to exist, let alone succeed, in the 7th or early 8th gen.
AAA is at its best in decades. AA is at its best in decades. Indie is at its strongest ever. This is IMO one of the strongest gens from a software standpoint. This is the first gen where PC gaming is actually a major power even in the mainstream, so it makes sense that the gen feels lackluster on the PS5 and Series front.
Counterpoint: Elden Ring was mid, so the whole generation is bust.
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes is on the console (I've got to get around to that at some point), and I understand there are some niche JRPGs on the system as well (Baten Kaitos, Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia come to mind).
To be fair, what elden ring lacks in being a good soulsborne game, it more than makes up for in being a game you can recommend to people who have never touched the genre. That's why elden ring got so popular; because most people with a decent amount of skill can pick it up no matter what. Personally, I never played it since soulsborne games aren't my cup of tea (Not a huge fan of the more methodical inputs since I much prefer stuff like terraria where you're focused on DPS and being able to hit the enemy with ~80% of your shots) but many people I know who come from varying backgrounds in the genre all say it is a good game.
I do appreciate that, but it also means that I have to deal with new fans who conceptualize all of From's previous games as stepping stones to Elden Ring and look at me like an alien when I say I prefer the earlier ones. It's give and take with this game.
That sounds like a problem that can be solved by separating the fanbase from the topic
This is true, but separating the fandom from the topic also means that I don't acknowledge the positive impact the game had on the fandom by getting a bunch of new people into it. I'm not inclined to selectively separate.
Yeah, we don’t use Tera dark on dozo, we use Tera fighting since it boosts body press and isn’t weak to low kick.
A legendary using a default ability to destroy BH is so funny
ubers player discovers a niche set to counter 1 pokemon
Of the long running animated shows that are said to have fallen off, SpongeBob had the absolute hardest downfall
I'd say both the average of quality among newer episodes is lower than that of Family Guy and The Simpsons and the depths SpongeBob reaches are waaaaay more extreme than of the other two
I'd say both the average of quality among newer episodes is lower than that of Family Guy and The Simpsons and the depths SpongeBob reaches are waaaaay more extreme than of the other two
I predict that the PS6 and Xbox 2 (or whatever the fuck they choose to call that one) will be the last consoles Sony and Microsoft make. The main draw of console gaming compared to PC is that it's much cheaper, but with each generation of those consoles getting more powerful, that of course makes them much more expensive to make, thus they have to be sold at a higher price to break even. So there is going to come a point, I think quite soon, where a good gaming PC won't be much more expensive than a console (hell in the long term it'll probably be cheaper since you can update it rather than have to get a new one), so I think more people are going to switch over.
I think Nintendo will still stay in the console race, I think they've hit a sweet spot with the Switch. They have been the kings of handheld gaming ever since the Gameboy came out in 1989.
I think Nintendo will still stay in the console race, I think they've hit a sweet spot with the Switch. They have been the kings of handheld gaming ever since the Gameboy came out in 1989.