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Blue glass said:
Tyranitar can make mountains crumble using earthquakes and Macgargo is hotter than the surface of the sun. It's dex logic.
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I think the main difference here is that it isn't a Dex entry. I definitely subscribe to the idea that the Dex entries are written by the literal child player character who sometimes just makes shit up or heavily exaggerates. When it comes to Volcanion apparently leveling an entire mountain range, that doesn't come from the unreliable player character but rather the editor of a newspaper. It could still be bullshit though, like people unironically believing aliens carved the pyramids with space lasers or whatever. Maybe the editor is the Pokemon world equivalent of a QAnoner.

Also people (including past versions of me) overblow the Magcargo thing. The surface of the sun is 'only' ~5800K, which is about 5 times hotter than the hottest surface lava ever recorded on Earth. It's hot as fuck, it would kill you if you were too close to it, and it would slowly melt its way into the mantle of the Earth, but it wouldn't instantly vaporize everything within a 10-mile radius or any of the other ridiculous things people say. Being 'as hot as the surface of the sun' does not mean releasing as much energy as the surface of the sun (turns out most of the energy the sun produces doesn't come from the surface, who'd have guessed). People assume the physics work out the same way as if you magically teleported a Magcargo-sized chunk of the sun to the earth, but that's just not the case.

The real danger is if you send your Magcargo out in water, which could potentially cause a massive littoral explosion that would probably result in a very unpleasant death for anything nearby. Turns out that 4x weakness to Water goes both ways.
 
Divine Retribution said:
I think the main difference here is that it isn't a Dex entry. I definitely subscribe to the idea that the Dex entries are written by the literal child player character who sometimes just makes shit up or heavily exaggerates. When it comes to Volcanion apparently leveling an entire mountain range, that doesn't come from the unreliable player character but rather the editor of a newspaper. It could still be bullshit though, like people unironically believing aliens carved the pyramids with space lasers or whatever. Maybe the editor is the Pokemon world equivalent of a QAnoner.

Also people (including past versions of me) overblow the Magcargo thing. The surface of the sun is 'only' ~5800K, which is about 5 times hotter than the hottest surface lava ever recorded on Earth. It's hot as fuck, it would kill you if you were too close to it, and it would slowly melt its way into the mantle of the Earth, but it wouldn't instantly vaporize everything within a 10-mile radius or any of the other ridiculous things people say. Being 'as hot as the surface of the sun' does not mean releasing as much energy as the surface of the sun (turns out most of the energy the sun produces doesn't come from the surface, who'd have guessed). People assume the physics work out the same way as if you magically teleported a Magcargo-sized chunk of the sun to the earth, but that's just not the case.

The real danger is if you send your Magcargo out in water, which could potentially cause a massive littoral explosion that would probably result in a very unpleasant death for anything nearby. Turns out that 4x weakness to Water goes both ways.
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My bad, I missed the fact the npc is the editor in chief so her assertion that "a huge mountain range suddenly disappeared due to an unexplained explosion in that part of the region in the past" is probably verified in some way and not just a regional myth of something that happened hundreds of years ago (As an aside she wouldn't need to be a QAnoner, even well regarded publications have slop in their pages from time to time).

My problem with Macgargo was never that it would incinerate everything around it, we reach way higher temperatures in particle accelerators and we never caught on fire because of them. My problem with it is how a living being sustain such high internal temperature, the metabolism requirements would be crazy. The counter to that is the Pokémon world has incredible beings such as ghosts and magical tapirs that feed on dreams but Macgargo is just a dumb snail.
 
Blue glass said:
My bad, I missed the fact the npc is the editor in chief so her assertion that "a huge mountain range suddenly disappeared due to an unexplained explosion in that part of the region in the past" is probably verified in some way and not just a regional myth of something that happened hundreds of years ago (As an aside she wouldn't need to be a QAnoner, even well regarded publications have slop in their pages from time to time).

My problem with Macgargo was never that it would incinerate everything around it, we reach way higher temperatures in particle accelerators and we never caught on fire because of them. My problem with it is how a living being sustain such high internal temperature, the metabolism requirements would be crazy. The counter to that is the Pokémon world has incredible beings such as ghosts and magical tapirs that feed on dreams but Macgargo is just a dumb snail.
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Presumably the same way any other fire type does, magic bullshit infinity energy.
 
Blue glass said:
My problem with Macgargo was never that it would incinerate everything around it, we reach way higher temperatures in particle accelerators and we never caught on fire because of them. My problem with it is how a living being sustain such high internal temperature, the metabolism requirements would be crazy. The counter to that is the Pokémon world has incredible beings such as ghosts and magical tapirs that feed on dreams but Macgargo is just a dumb snail.
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Oh yeah, biology and thermodynamics are pretty much impossible to preserve when discussing Pokemon. Living superheated magma snail makes no sense but neither does sentient magnet creature or ethereal soul-stealing ghost or time-traveling onion fairy.
 
Divine Retribution said:
Ok, can we take a moment to discuss exactly how absurd this is? The most powerful nuclear weapon ever detonated would have left a fairly modest dent in a single mountain. To wipe out an entire mountain range (a 'huge' one at that) would require energy on the order of the impact event that wiped out the dinosaurs - and would have similar globally catastrophic consequences. Like, massive earthquakes and tsunamis ravaging the entire world, followed by a rain of debris as chunks of mountain are recaptured by the planet's gravity and rain from the sky like meteorites, followed by a cloud of dust and debris enveloping the world and plunging it into an ice age kind of consequences, and yet this dude mentions it in passing as a minor event and nowhere else is it brought up.
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This is the same series in which a bomb was detonated in a lake, displacing all the water in it and causing an explosion large enough to be felt on the other side of the country, but not doing any visible damage to any of the people or places right next to it
 
QuentinQuonce said:
This is the same series in which a bomb was detonated in a lake, displacing all the water in it and causing an explosion large enough to be felt on the other side of the country, but not doing any visible damage to any of the people or places right next to it
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AztecCroc said:
Or the lakeshore for that matter.
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Or its Pokémon. The Magikarp are still alive, just Splashing around. :magikarp:
 
rantsei time. sry if this seems incoherent

XY were very ambitious Pokémon games. They were shown to have a lot of missing content initially planned to be added.

However, from a content and story perspective, I don't think they are any more "incomplete" than plenty of other mainline Pokémon games all throughout the series.

Content-wise, features-wise, and overall lore-wise I think BW and SM are a smaller shell of XY, more incomplete than XY in all three of these aspects. Legends Arceus falling on this boat for most of these as well despite not being in the same game genre, but that game does clarify a lot about the Pokémon lore when close enough attention is paid to them. The story just lacks significant context behind Volo's whole arc and the Ancient Hero.

B2W2 fixed the content part of BW (but not the overall story/lore). USUM fixed all of it for SM imo.

DP overall has a ton more restrictions in the gameplay, as well as messy in the bugs and glitches department and having a story written in a way that was barebones. Platinum alleviated these issues, but did not fix them as much as the community claims, as a lot of the issues from DP are still largely present and from a story perspective all the new story did was shoehorn Giratina and give Cyrus a backstory the writing of this plot did not along very well with.

Ruby/Sapphire just really had a Battle Tower. GS had the Kanto region but just basic land exploration is the most overexaggerated thing. In reality you just blow through Kanto in a couple hours and don't have much of a reason to go back to it afterwards since the region lacks much to offer.

I don't know if I'm wrong about this but as far as I know, postgame is about having things worth going back to the game for in the long term. Random exploration can only do so much since much of it are just brief moments of additional gameplay you go through once. Mirage Islands works better for postgame exploration than anything else the series had ever done because these are either constantly changing or can constantly change under your control. This allows you to keep seeing different things each day through exploration while encountering large varieties of special Pokemon you might not even be able to get rewarded with by a whole second region. To me, it's more about the quality of the content and how rewarding it could be to keep going back with it.

Additionally, I think a lot of problems people have with XY originated from older games (gym leaders having 3 mons = BW. Games becoming "more handholdy" = BW. elite four having 4 pokemon = BW. Pokemon known to exist but is never distributed to us? Didn't Gen 5 bring up this thing called "The Original Dragon" then refused to flesh out on it or even show us what it looked like?!)

Team Flare and their backstory? Well that's more of a unique scenario but I find the writing of teams Aqua, Magma, Galactic, and BW Plasma worse than Team Flare personally.

idk I just feel that X and Y get singled out for way too many things at once despite the impact they've made in piecing the community together at the time and people are hoping for a Pokemon Z while holding standards raised so far up they'd make B2W2 look like D tier games. The community is pushing for Pokemon Z to do things only USUM were remotely close to actually doing, and then hate USUM for giving Alola mostly what they wanted Pokemon Z to do.
 
It's the medium/aesthetic shift that did XY in
You can bet your ass if it was 2D or Faux 2D like Gen 3 or 4/5 with the same exact map layout people would be significantly more fair to it, much like how HGSS got touted as "the best Pokemon game" for a decade despite Johto game design being shit

This doesn't mean XY isn't mid, but I sincerely think it's due to aesthetic, and the rivals no longer mattering that game
 
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Ransei said:
rantsei time. sry if this seems incoherent

XY were very ambitious Pokémon games. They were shown to have a lot of missing content initially planned to be added.

However, from a content and story perspective, I don't think they are any more "incomplete" than plenty of other mainline Pokémon games all throughout the series.

Content-wise, features-wise, and overall lore-wise I think BW and SM are a smaller shell of XY, more incomplete than XY in all three of these aspects. Legends Arceus falling on this boat for most of these as well despite not being in the same game genre, but that game does clarify a lot about the Pokémon lore when close enough attention is paid to them. The story just lacks significant context behind Volo's whole arc and the Ancient Hero.

B2W2 fixed the content part of BW (but not the overall story/lore). USUM fixed all of it for SM imo.

DP overall has a ton more restrictions in the gameplay, as well as messy in the bugs and glitches department and having a story written in a way that was barebones. Platinum alleviated these issues, but did not fix them as much as the community claims, as a lot of the issues from DP are still largely present and from a story perspective all the new story did was shoehorn Giratina and give Cyrus a backstory the writing of this plot did not along very well with.

Ruby/Sapphire just really had a Battle Tower. GS had the Kanto region but just basic land exploration is the most overexaggerated thing. In reality you just blow through Kanto in a couple hours and don't have much of a reason to go back to it afterwards since the region lacks much to offer.

I don't know if I'm wrong about this but as far as I know, postgame is about having things worth going back to the game for in the long term. Random exploration can only do so much since much of it are just brief moments of additional gameplay you go through once. Mirage Islands works better for postgame exploration than anything else the series had ever done because these are either constantly changing or can constantly change under your control. This allows you to keep seeing different things each day through exploration while encountering large varieties of special Pokemon you might not even be able to get rewarded with by a whole second region. To me, it's more about the quality of the content and how rewarding it could be to keep going back with it.

Additionally, I think a lot of problems people have with XY originated from older games (gym leaders having 3 mons = BW. Games becoming "more handholdy" = BW. elite four having 4 pokemon = BW. Pokemon known to exist but is never distributed to us? Didn't Gen 5 bring up this thing called "The Original Dragon" then refused to flesh out on it or even show us what it looked like?!)

Team Flare and their backstory? Well that's more of a unique scenario but I find the writing of teams Aqua, Magma, Galactic, and BW Plasma worse than Team Flare personally.

idk I just feel that X and Y get singled out for way too many things at once despite the impact they've made in piecing the community together at the time and people are hoping for a Pokemon Z while holding standards raised so far up they'd make B2W2 look like D tier games. The community is pushing for Pokemon Z to do things only USUM were remotely close to actually doing, and then hate USUM for giving Alola mostly what they wanted Pokemon Z to do.
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how is SM lore-wise incomplete and how does USUM fix that
 
ant4456 said:
how is SM lore-wise incomplete and how does USUM fix that
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SM doesn't really emphasize on the story of Alola. Hardly explains the ultra wormholes, fleshes out on the UBs, or talks about the story behind the trials, totem Pokemon, etc. It primarily just focuses on the dynamic between Lillie and her mother. In other words they don't really focus on what the Alola region is about nor the story behind it. This is where USUM's marketing was getting at too when they expressed that "this isn't the Alola you thought you knew".

Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are all about Necrozma, its backstory (explaining the process behind totems, trials, z-crystals, with Necrozma's aura + fragments + defeat being responsible for the process behind z-moves, the creation of totems, and the creation of trials as a tradition to celebrate the culture they created off Necrozma's actions). They also have you go through the trials and collect Z-Crystals then use the Z-Crystals to explain how you're able to lure Necrozma, eventually taming it. For the UBs, fleshes out on the UBs more by letting us see the worlds they naturally inhabit for the most part, which I see as more because SM didn't do much other than shove them in the middle of the story as a seemingly random action Lusamine decided to take before deciding she wanted to live in Nihilego world forever.
 
Ransei said:
SM doesn't really emphasize on the story of Alola. Hardly explains the ultra wormholes, fleshes out on the UBs, or talks about the story behind the trials, totem Pokemon, etc. It primarily just focuses on the dynamic between Lillie and her mother.

Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are all about Necrozma, its backstory (explaining the process behind totems, trials, z-crystals, with Necrozma's aura + fragments + defeat being responsible for the process behind z-moves, the creation of totems, and the creation of trials as a tradition to celebrate the culture they created off Necrozma's actions). They also have you go through the trials and collect Z-Crystals then use the Z-Crystals to explain how you're able to lure Necrozma, eventually taming it. For the UBs, fleshes out on the UBs more by letting us see the worlds they naturally inhabit for the most part, which I see as more because SM didn't do much other than shove them in the middle of the story as a seemingly random action Lusamine decided to take before deciding she wanted to live in Nihilego world forever.
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fair, I thought you meant story included in "lore" because you didn't specify lore as its own category, in which case I'd hard disagree, but in this regard I do agree
 
sorry for double post but imo XY is still pretty lore incomplete, moreso than a lot of games for a few reasons though

1.stuff like Anastar City, I still barely know what the big crystal is for. Like did i just miss this part? I'm a lore nerd so I kinda feel like there just isn't an explanation, but I don't know it if there is one.

2. things that had to be done in other games; ie. Zygarde-Complete being SM, ORAS giving its own explanation for Megas in the Delta Episode

3. AZ-Floette type stuff

4. the events are really boring as many have complained about, and imo that degrades the lore because there isn't really any additions from them. they kinda just exist

now that isn't to say that XY isn't cool and it's like, seriously fucked over- ive actually felt the main campaign of XY is overhated for a while now, it's solid- the post game is the ass part. i played it like 5 times in a year as a kid (not exaggerating) and i had a blast each time.

but it does feel like a game where a lot of the ideas they had were taken and thrown into other games for the rest of the generation.

now the actually most bankrupt region is Galar bc i still do not get much about that region and i put 200 hours into it. its a place with british people and there's gyms and there was dynamax and eternatus. zacian and zamazenta were heroes?
 
I don’t really see XY’s lore as incomplete, personally. I think it’s just fundamentally not very complex to begin with.

There’s three Legendaries — one gives life, one takes it, one keeps the two of them in balance. The life and death ones generally exist in a stable cycle of activity and hibernation.

3,000 years ago, there was a man who used strange technology to make Kalos prosperous, but eventually that led to conflict, which led to a war, in which the king’s beloved Pokémon died. He used his technology and the power of the Legendary Pokémon to make a resurrection machine, and then turned it into a weapon which he used to end the war.

The power of the Legendary Pokémon being channeled through the weapon affected the rocks buried in the soil of Kalos, turning them into Mega Stones. Eventually, some bloke with a Lucario dug some up, discovered Mega Evolution, and built a tower to train people in the art.

Sure, there’s some odds and ends on the fringes, but that’s not really a quality that’s exclusive to Kalos’s lore. Gen 5 left the Abyssal Ruins pretty vague, despite offering a few more breadcrumbs in B2W2, and of course has still never shown the original dragon. I could go on and on about how Gen 7 leaves lots of things unclear or underdeveloped when it comes to Ultra Space or the Ultra Beasts. Gen 8 introduced two new Regis with almost no context for why the exist in Galar, didn’t explain how Galarian forms of the Legendary birds came about (it probably has something to do with the Dyna Tree, but what?), and gestures at some kind of conflict between Calyrex and Eternatus without ever going into detail. Then of course you’ve got Gen 9 and some of the leftover Area Zero mysteries.

And like, at least for me, I kinda prefer leaving a few things up in the air. I don’t really feel a need to know to know how AZ came upon that mysterious advanced technology; I know the impact it had on Kalos throughout history and that’s all that the story really needs me to understand. I can enjoy speculating about the rest.
 
Esserise said:
I don’t really see XY’s lore as incomplete, personally. I think it’s just fundamentally not very complex to begin with.

There’s three Legendaries — one gives life, one takes it, one keeps the two of them in balance. The life and death ones generally exist in a stable cycle of activity and hibernation.

3,000 years ago, there was a man who used strange technology to make Kalos prosperous, but eventually that led to conflict, which led to a war, in which the king’s beloved Pokémon died. He used his technology and the power of the Legendary Pokémon to make a resurrection machine, and then turned it into a weapon which he used to end the war.

The power of the Legendary Pokémon being channeled through the weapon affected the rocks buried in the soil of Kalos, turning them into Mega Stones. Eventually, some bloke with a Lucario dug some up, discovered Mega Evolution, and built a tower to train people in the art.

Sure, there’s some odds and ends on the fringes, but that’s not really a quality that’s exclusive to Kalos’s lore. Gen 5 left the Abyssal Ruins pretty vague, despite offering a few more breadcrumbs in B2W2, and of course has still never shown the original dragon. I could go on and on about how Gen 7 leaves lots of things unclear or underdeveloped when it comes to Ultra Space or the Ultra Beasts. Gen 8 introduced two new Regis with almost no context for why the exist in Galar, didn’t explain how Galarian forms of the Legendary birds came about (it probably has something to do with the Dyna Tree, but what?), and gestures at some kind of conflict between Calyrex and Eternatus without ever going into detail. Then of course you’ve got Gen 9 and some of the leftover Area Zero mysteries.

And like, at least for me, I kinda prefer leaving a few things up in the air. I don’t really feel a need to know to know how AZ came upon that mysterious advanced technology; I know the impact it had on Kalos throughout history and that’s all that the story really needs me to understand. I can enjoy speculating about the rest.
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Actually AZ's technology is inferrably explained, just again through ORAS lore

ORAS expands on the concept of "infinity energy" which it implies can be taken from Pokemon as a bioenergy. This in the same gen as AZ's machine which sacrificed tons of Pokemon to me is pretty clear, AZ used the infinity energy ("life force") from Pokemon in order to revive Floette and then use the rest as basically a nuke.

So basically the machine harnesses infinity energy, which I don't think is that much more mysterious to the world than say, a Pokecenter machine, or much of the other tech. About as explained as most futuristic stuff in the series tbh. We even know how it's actually powered.
 
ant4456 said:
Actually AZ's technology is inferrably explained, just again through ORAS lore

ORAS expands on the concept of "infinity energy" which it implies can be taken from Pokemon as a bioenergy. This in the same gen as AZ's machine which sacrificed tons of Pokemon to me is pretty clear, AZ used the infinity energy ("life force") from Pokemon in order to revive Floette and then use the rest as basically a nuke.

So basically the machine harnesses infinity energy, which I don't think is that much more mysterious to the world than say, a Pokecenter machine, or much of the other tech. About as explained as most futuristic stuff in the series tbh. We even know how it's actually powered.
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I meant more like the crystalline material we see with the weapon & presumably the sundial, but yeah, even ORAS did expound on the weapon’s inner workings a bit

Mainly my point is that XY didn’t really leave me with a lot of questions, and the ones it did are ones I think are better left as speculation fodder

No one cares about the ghost girl in SwSh, where we were given a concrete answer and backstory behind her existence, but the ghost girl in Kalos has been intriguing for years because she’s completely enigmatic. Personally I prefer that.
 
Esserise said:
I meant more like the crystalline material we see with the weapon & presumably the sundial, but yeah, even ORAS did expound on the weapon’s inner workings a bit

Mainly my point is that XY didn’t really leave me with a lot of questions, and the ones it did are ones I think are better left as speculation fodder

No one cares about the ghost girl in SwSh, where we were given a concrete answer and backstory behind her existence, but the ghost girl in Kalos has been intriguing for years because she’s completely enigmatic. Personally I prefer that.
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Yeah fair point, I think XY does a decent job at answering its questions, you're right

There was a ghost girl in SWSH?

Wait I forgot about that wtf

SWSH is weird because a lot of the house environments are actually pretty decently detailed, but the NPCs themselves usually have nothing to say
 
ant4456 said:
Yeah fair point, I think XY does a decent job at answering its questions, you're right

There was a ghost girl in SWSH?

Wait I forgot about that wtf

SWSH is weird because a lot of the house environments are actually pretty decently detailed, but the NPCs themselves usually have nothing to say
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Yeah, there’s a little girl in Hammerlocke who asks you to deliver a letter to a person named Frank in Ballonlea

You get to Ballonlea and find an older man named Frank, who relays a story about a friend of his named Paula from back when he was a kid. They spent all that time together, but at some point she got sick. She kept that illness a secret, but eventually Frank found out and they got into an argument, and Frank’s family moved away not long after, so they didn’t ever get a chance to resolve their conflict.

When you return to Hammerlocke after delivering the letter, the girl is gone and in her place is a Reaper Cloth.

So like it’s pretty clear what the deal is there. Girl got sick and died young with regrets over keeping it a secret and the argument she got into with her friend, until you deliver the letter to him which allows her spirit to move on.

Tragic, sure, but it’s incredibly standard ghost stuff and thus pretty unmemorable. I worry about the possibility of reducing Kalos’s hidden bits of intrigue, like the ghost girl or the message on the back of the sign at the train station, into such dull incidents.
 
It's weird how Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde are considered a trio despite how little the latter is connected to the other two. Zygarde is said to bring order by protecting the ecosystem from...who exactly? Yveltal's corrosive power? But Xerneas ability to share energy to others is what counterbalances Yveltal. You just find Zygarde in Terminus Cave with no other corelation besides an ability that counters Fairy Aura and Dark Aura. They do more with Zygarde in the anime and next generation, in the former it's the spotlight legendary but then again, nothing to do with Xerneas and Yveltal; and in SM he goes to Alola (Protector of Kalos lmaoooo) under the threat of the Ultra Beasts.

I mean, at least Zacian Zamazenta and Eternatus are not pretending to be a trio, but with the XYZ "trio" is pretty notable how disconnected is the Z from the XY...
 
pokemon4eva said:
It's weird how Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde are considered a trio despite how little the latter is connected to the other two. Zygarde is said to bring order by protecting the ecosystem from...who exactly? Yveltal's corrosive power? But Xerneas ability to share energy to others is what counterbalances Yveltal. You just find Zygarde in Terminus Cave with no other corelation besides an ability that counters Fairy Aura and Dark Aura. They do more with Zygarde in the anime and next generation, in the former it's the spotlight legendary but then again, nothing to do with Xerneas and Yveltal; and in SM he goes to Alola (Protector of Kalos lmaoooo) under the threat of the Ultra Beasts.
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Such is the inevitable result of Z being axed

That said, I think Zygarde’s deal is sort of two-fold: it protects the ecosystem from anyone that tries to harm it, rather than just Xerneas and Yveltal.

When it comes to those two in particular, the concept (which Z probably would have elaborated on) is that both life and death have to be kept in balance. One of Lysandre’s big concerns in XY is overpopulation leading to resource scarcity. Although Lysandre’s specific claims were paranoid and poorly substantiated, overpopulation is a real phenomenon that can occur, and it does negatively impact the ecosystem. So on one end of the scale, too much proliferation of life leads to overpopulation (which in turn leads to more death), and on the other end of the scale, too much death leads to extinction. Zygarde is there for when life and death can no longer function as effective counters to one another.
 
pokemon4eva said:
It's weird how Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde are considered a trio despite how little the latter is connected to the other two. Zygarde is said to bring order by protecting the ecosystem from...who exactly? Yveltal's corrosive power? But Xerneas ability to share energy to others is what counterbalances Yveltal. You just find Zygarde in Terminus Cave with no other corelation besides an ability that counters Fairy Aura and Dark Aura. They do more with Zygarde in the anime and next generation, in the former it's the spotlight legendary but then again, nothing to do with Xerneas and Yveltal; and in SM he goes to Alola (Protector of Kalos lmaoooo) under the threat of the Ultra Beasts.
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It's especially weird because it's such an odd combo of typings. Dark/Flying, Fairy, and Dragon/Ground? Zygarde loses to both members of the trio based purely on typing, and the signature moves make it worse. And Xerneas makes Yveltal look like a joke if they face off. Combined with Zygarde having a lower BST than the other two(and Zygarde's BSTs being odd overall), it really makes me wonder what they were actually trying to accomplish with this trio.
 
Esserise said:
No one cares about the ghost girl in SwSh, where we were given a concrete answer and backstory behind her existence, but the ghost girl in Kalos has been intriguing for years because she’s completely enigmatic. Personally I prefer that.
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Ghost girls don't need an explanation, and besides, it's been a decade after XY with zero answers. Any answer after a 10-year long mystery is going to disappoint people.
 
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