Metagame USUM Pure Hackmons

[PenultimateToast]

Also who the hell is running Huge Power and Harvest on Diancie? Why?

adriancosmoem iirc, harvest diancie with evoboost sunraze maelstrom and let's snuggle forever is a really scary sweeper if it sets up

not responding to the whole post because i'm lazy have a set i've like never used instead because i don't wanna make this a one liner


Mewtwo-Mega-Y @ Focus Sash
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sheer Cold
- Magma Storm
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock / Spikes / Toxic Spikes

similar to that one ng gar, force hazards up with your ohko move/magma storm/taunt, sheer cold can be swapped out for fissure and magma storm can be some other shit if you want to hit kyurems harder, this guy seems kinda annoying to improof tho because they can taunt as you go to your mcoat guy though you can mu fish no imposter it seems like a manageable weakness

i think ng mmy has a good amount of potential just in general, offensive sets seem decent enough but utility sets are pretty unexplored imo, i can see a lot more sets that could work besides this one

why did i put this guy below mlop on my ng vr WHAT WAS I DOING

 

[WindySnivy_]

adriancosmoem iirc, harvest diancie with evoboost sunraze maelstrom and let's snuggle forever is a really scary sweeper if it sets up

not responding to the whole post because i'm lazy have a set i've like never used instead because i don't wanna make this a one liner


Mewtwo-Mega-Y @ Focus Sash
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sheer Cold
- Magma Storm
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock / Spikes / Toxic Spikes

similar to that one ng gar, force hazards up with your ohko move/magma storm/taunt, sheer cold can be swapped out for fissure and magma storm can be some other shit if you want to hit kyurems harder, this guy seems kinda annoying to improof tho because they can taunt as you go to your mcoat guy though you can mu fish no imposter it seems like a manageable weakness

i think ng mmy has a good amount of potential just in general, offensive sets seem decent enough but utility sets are pretty unexplored imo, i can see a lot more sets that could work besides this one

why did i put this guy below mlop on my ng vr WHAT WAS I DOING

taunt storm ngs are underrated imo, they can force some serious progress on unprepared teams and seem quite good into ho teams without prank spore

 

[mayonnaise. mayo.]

i got to 1500 elo on ladder so i'm not touching that ever again
anyways here's a
MAYO TEAM DUMP
click on the icons for the paste



two versions of mmx spam. the main point between the alterations was so other mmxes were immune to priority (fakespeed slak, ice shard kart, etc). if you want to use this, i suggest you use the second version (the one with psysurge).


mmy spam. another funni psyspam team. smash sweepers are bonkers on psyspam and stuff.


triple pdon. mandatory two wonder guards because no guard and they also improof everything except mold pdon, which is improofed by innards.


kart spam. the only good team out of all of these in my opinion. heatran improofs all sets except no guard, which we have wg kart for. ygod tanks moongeist and other special coverage (besides moonblast or lor) because the rest of the team gets evaporated by it.

 

[WindySnivy_]

This is NOT a copy of Mayo's post. Instead, here's a
FAILED SNIVY TEAM DUMP
All of the teams here have lost me rating points. If you're a high ladder player, I would advise you not to use these teams. But maybe I'm just piloting them wrong, idk.
click on the icons for the paste


My first attempt at a Shadow Tag- based team. This team didn't have much synergy and not enough support to make STag work in the long run.


This team, unlike some others, is actually quite fun to use. The point of this team is to get Gyarados online, as Prankster Assist (Power Trip) can rip through unprepared teams. However, Gyarados's teammates only being allowed to use a few sub-par moves and CFZs makes the team heavily reliant on Gyarados's damage.


After I read Mayo's fanfic about stall, I was dying to try Level 1 Ferroseed on ladder. However, it didn't go so well. Ferroseed is just too easily exploitable, whether by priority moves or Grass types.


I'm not actually sure what went wrong with this team, but it lost me quite a few points. If anyone has a clue as to why it's so bad, please tell me your thoughts.



Two versions of MMY spam. They're both worse than MMX spam, but I would recommend using the second version, as Kartana can cover more checks (and allow more MMY sets) than Raticate. Also, two of the MMYs have bug coverage, a huge whoopsie on my part.

 

[Slothlotliscool]

This is NOT a copy of Mayo's post. Instead, here's a
FAILED SNIVY TEAM DUMP
All of the teams here have lost me rating points. If you're a high ladder player, I would advise you not to use these teams. But maybe I'm just piloting them wrong, idk.
click on the icons for the paste


My first attempt at a Shadow Tag- based team. This team didn't have much synergy and not enough support to make STag work in the long run.


This team, unlike some others, is actually quite fun to use. The point of this team is to get Gyarados online, as Prankster Assist (Power Trip) can rip through unprepared teams. However, Gyarados's teammates only being allowed to use a few sub-par moves and CFZs makes the team heavily reliant on Gyarados's damage.


After I read Mayo's fanfic about stall, I was dying to try Level 1 Ferroseed on ladder. However, it didn't go so well. Ferroseed is just too easily exploitable, whether by priority moves or Grass types.


I'm not actually sure what went wrong with this team, but it lost me quite a few points. If anyone has a clue as to why it's so bad, please tell me your thoughts.



Two versions of MMY spam. They're both worse than MMX spam, but I would recommend using the second version, as Kartana can cover more checks (and allow more MMY sets) than Raticate. Also, two of the MMYs have bug coverage, a huge whoopsie on my part.

I response to the level 1 ferroseed, give it soak (:. here is my set:https://pokepast.es/c47baca0b68c3036 it’s terrible but it’s a level 1 ferroseed soooo

 

[WindySnivy_]

I response to the level 1 ferroseed, give it soak (:. here is my set:https://pokepast.es/c47baca0b68c3036 it’s terrible but it’s a level 1 ferroseed soooo

you need sash because >99% of offensive mons have moldy moves and all of them hit ferro lol

 

[Slothlotliscool]

you need sash because >99% of offensive mons have moldy moves and all of them hit ferro lol

Hmmm… maybe it could be good in bh?
B

 

[AnsonIsTheBest]

https://pokepast.es/5088ad98ac5e6be9
rmt later
this is bad i know but i love it

//edit 8/27 3:56 gmt -7
too bad i lost to whatever it takes
https://pokepast.es/39bb518fa144a9a5
use this rmt later

 

[Electra102]

Surely posting most of my modern gen7ph teambuilder here will have no repercussions. Teams are in no particular order.

The teams​

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No Guard Lucario-Mega

I cooked this wacky No Guard Lucario-Mega set and wanted to use it on a team. "Improofed" it with Swampert-Mega, then improofed a Mewtwo-Mega-X set with that same Swampert-Mega. Threw on an Arceus to have a selfproofing Wonder Guard, then added an Innards Out Blissey set that is supposed to be able to escape Pursuit (whoever is the first to correctly guess how it does this gets a cookie, although if you make a one-liner I'm eating the cookie myself). Wanted a lead for the last mon, so I chose Innards Out Mewtwo-Mega-Y.


Wack Offense featuring Harvest Meloetta

Wanted to run Harvest Meloetta after using it in Custom Game. Mainly stole a bunch of sets that adrian cosmoem made that I wanted to run. I used it once on ladder and ragequit after losing badly in game one.


Deoxys-Speed Lead ig

Made this team while in a call with one of my friends. I was trying to show her how to teambuild for gen7ph, but I feel like I did a godawful job of it. At least I have this funny team now. Did win me a game versus MMX spam too!


Dual Green Noodle

Wanted to make a team with Mold Breaker Rayquaza-Mega. Ended up with two of the green noodles. I genuinely do not remember how the Shadow Tag Rayquaza-Mega is improofed. Went around 0-3 on ladder and made me ragequit again :3.


Insane team (old version, I redid this)

Original version of the team right below this one. I realized I was being a little too silly by running Thundurus-Therian. Wanted to run Mold Breaker Kyurem-White with Clangorous Soulblaze / Freeze Dry / Coverage / Shell Smash, but Imposter will murder Ho-Oh.


Okay this looks more "normal"

Somewhat happy with how this one turned out. Groudon-Primal did lose the Sticky Web support, however. This team also lost to a Shell Smash sweeper Scizor-Mega because I forgot Pheromosa was Huge Power and I threw away Groudon-Primal to Innards Out AND Kyurem-White had taken Stealth Rock chip (so Innards Out recoil didn't KO Scizor-Mega). If that doesn't show that I have a skill issue, I don't know what does.


Why did this ever work

"wtf is this"- NToTheN
Why is THIS my most successful team ever since I started playing gen7ph again? I hit the 1600s and top 10 (pretty sure top 5, but not positive) on ladder with this insane team, and I didn't even have an improof for Slaking (was originally Incineroar but I didn't like the dual Fighting weaknesses on my Wonder Guards).

Final thoughts + ending​

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I think I might like Kyurem-White. Maybe I'm wrong, though.

Pokepaste for the teambuilder if you want to import it all into Showdown for some reason: https://pokepast.es/66d200aefc12841c