this is true like my team is never going to be a sample as it's mbee offense https://pokepast.es/01327028d48b7089NOT EVERY TEAM CAN BE A SAMPLE DEAR GOD
(Also Eyeos is gonna have to test all of these, so maybe it isn't all bad)
this is true like my team is never going to be a sample as it's mbee offense https://pokepast.es/01327028d48b7089NOT EVERY TEAM CAN BE A SAMPLE DEAR GOD
(Also Eyeos is gonna have to test all of these, so maybe it isn't all bad)
NOT EVERY TEAM CAN BE A SAMPLE DEAR GOD
(Also Eyeos is gonna have to test all of these, so maybe it isn't all bad)
BRUH I MADE A MONO NORMAL TEAM AGES AGO. I feel like it's at least worth mentioningmonotype teamdump wooo who the fuck cares
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the typing itself is probably good with the holy trinity of broken offensive psychics however i am truly awful at building teams so theres a pbond mmy and an evoboost hoopa-u and a singular way to comeback from a losing position being innards wobb (no stag mmx doesnt count)
laddered to 1472 on paranormal seeker (definitely couldve gone higher but i got bored)
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also a fine type but its heavily carried by pdon. main setup control is prank pdon + mg pdon, hooh is because of fissure immune + moongeist softcheck. pwhip on reshiram is an attempt to hit pert since the team gets 6-0d by it otherwise. the main problem i found was that speed control really sucked as i didnt want to use talonflame or wg pdon so it ended up hilariously weak to no guard; so i gave this up pretty early
laddered to 1368 on the burning world (same reason as psychic)
Tlālōcān
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most broken monotype by a quite sizable margin, mostly because you actually get blobs to play with. regigigas > slaking here to softcheck mmy and darkinium z on innards is a secondary trick blocker and heals arc up in a pinch. the lopunny is a surprisingly potent wincon for what its worth, and i actually tried using it outside of mono normal to decent success.
laddered to roughly 1700 on glassfrogs and petrichor v
yeah everything is a ror2 reference cry about it
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"why is this not pdon spam" it would be lame as fuck to build pdon spam twice in a row so i limited myself to 2 pdons
ground is in a weird spot where theres a bunch of decent to great mons but likewise to fire theres just not enough speed control. unlike fire however we actually have a solid scarfposter to play around so its not as bad as it is. idk why the lando isnt bounce and the bounce pdon isnt something that actually breaks here tho... pert pivots around and chomper is a phys breaker that can directly kill zyg. the no guard pdon is sick tho i'd keep that in the books for future use
laddered to like 1300 on petrichor v before i crashed out on some ladder bullshit and just started running mono normal instead
My Love Is A Bulldozer
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going into mono ghost i actually expected it to be pretty mid but to my surprise it actually performed quite well, maybe that just has to do with offensive ghost coverage just being broken? idk
anyways you might notice that the fastest mon here is actually mgar... how is this better speed control than some of our previous teams? turns out its actually not bad if you have an innards, an actually solid mg sash spectral guy, harvest (insanely broken) and this fuckass marowak. mimikium on innards tina-o over soulblaze is so we dont increase our defenses, while sparksurfer on harvest tina-o instead of sunraze snipes all of gyarados pogre and hooh. aegiblade is a surprisingly decent wallbreaker for what its worth, highly recommend at least checking the mon itself out maybe with different sets
laddered to 1684 on ghosting ph
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...yes, there is kartana in mono steel. no, that doesn't mean mono steel is good, since kart is basically the only good offensive mon we get.
despite having the second best physical breaker in the game it feels impossible to break both fat and offense without completely giving up the matchup against one (and even trying to beat offense in itself is already a futile task with our selection of mons).
if you have any ideas on how to improve this, feel free to do so because i will not try to continue building nor will i playtest this ever
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theres imposter solid breaking power and solid speed control so already this is one of the better types. mono dark actually has quite a number of usable mons but i went with agren spam since spam is broken when the mon is fast and versatile
the specs agren is hot garbage but its the best rker dark has. (still better than most types though) im not running the ransei set which has icicle spear because frankly icicle spear is an awful move that doesnt do anything. we might as well trick since that does something
other than that, the no guard agren evs is to ensure huge power agren always revenge kills non-scarf imposter with 0 rng. speaking of, this huge power agren is a pretty potent wincon, another one i'll keep in mind for future use
laddered to 1613 on MyLoveIsABulldozer
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ok so the main problem with mono bug isnt the mon selection. its not even the typing itself either. the problem is that our offensive stats are too low to do anything. yes there's heracross but its far too slow to be anything but a half baked revenge killer. there's beedrill but frankly that mon is just pretty bad and i have no interest in using him. and then we arrive at pheromosa, who is decent but her offensive stats are just a tad bit too low for spam to work, like seriously you're telling me huge power sunsteel doesnt even crack FUCKING 80% on mega gengar???? nah man get me outta this shit
i did like 4 games before quitting because the above calc happened
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dragon is fine. the typing is mid but there are so many usable mons its honestly insane. i have a personal vendetta against mono dragon though because my wifi disconnected 4 times and made me lose in completely unlosable scenarios
the sets are pretty standard-ish minus the last 2. dialga is the anti setup while garchomp returns from mono ground with a vengeance and acts as the raw unboosted power of this team. team's quite weak to no guard though thanks to the overreliance on sash which i surprisingly haven't done so far when building monotype teams considering i only build offense
laddered to 1601 on legendspamisntreal
Are you gonna make the mono types that are not in this team dump?monotype teamdump wooo who the fuck cares
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the typing itself is probably good with the holy trinity of broken offensive psychics however i am truly awful at building teams so theres a pbond mmy and an evoboost hoopa-u and a singular way to comeback from a losing position being innards wobb (no stag mmx doesnt count)
laddered to 1472 on paranormal seeker (definitely couldve gone higher but i got bored)
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also a fine type but its heavily carried by pdon. main setup control is prank pdon + mg pdon, hooh is because of fissure immune + moongeist softcheck. pwhip on reshiram is an attempt to hit pert since the team gets 6-0d by it otherwise. the main problem i found was that speed control really sucked as i didnt want to use talonflame or wg pdon so it ended up hilariously weak to no guard; so i gave this up pretty early
laddered to 1368 on the burning world (same reason as psychic)
Tlālōcān
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most broken monotype by a quite sizable margin, mostly because you actually get blobs to play with. regigigas > slaking here to softcheck mmy and darkinium z on innards is a secondary trick blocker and heals arc up in a pinch. the lopunny is a surprisingly potent wincon for what its worth, and i actually tried using it outside of mono normal to decent success.
laddered to roughly 1700 on glassfrogs and petrichor v
yeah everything is a ror2 reference cry about it
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"why is this not pdon spam" it would be lame as fuck to build pdon spam twice in a row so i limited myself to 2 pdons
ground is in a weird spot where theres a bunch of decent to great mons but likewise to fire theres just not enough speed control. unlike fire however we actually have a solid scarfposter to play around so its not as bad as it is. idk why the lando isnt bounce and the bounce pdon isnt something that actually breaks here tho... pert pivots around and chomper is a phys breaker that can directly kill zyg. the no guard pdon is sick tho i'd keep that in the books for future use
laddered to like 1300 on petrichor v before i crashed out on some ladder bullshit and just started running mono normal instead
My Love Is A Bulldozer
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going into mono ghost i actually expected it to be pretty mid but to my surprise it actually performed quite well, maybe that just has to do with offensive ghost coverage just being broken? idk
anyways you might notice that the fastest mon here is actually mgar... how is this better speed control than some of our previous teams? turns out its actually not bad if you have an innards, an actually solid mg sash spectral guy, harvest (insanely broken) and this fuckass marowak. mimikium on innards tina-o over soulblaze is so we dont increase our defenses, while sparksurfer on harvest tina-o instead of sunraze snipes all of gyarados pogre and hooh. aegiblade is a surprisingly decent wallbreaker for what its worth, highly recommend at least checking the mon itself out maybe with different sets
laddered to 1684 on ghosting ph
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...yes, there is kartana in mono steel. no, that doesn't mean mono steel is good, since kart is basically the only good offensive mon we get.
despite having the second best physical breaker in the game it feels impossible to break both fat and offense without completely giving up the matchup against one (and even trying to beat offense in itself is already a futile task with our selection of mons).
if you have any ideas on how to improve this, feel free to do so because i will not try to continue building nor will i playtest this ever
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theres imposter solid breaking power and solid speed control so already this is one of the better types. mono dark actually has quite a number of usable mons but i went with agren spam since spam is broken when the mon is fast and versatile
the specs agren is hot garbage but its the best rker dark has. (still better than most types though) im not running the ransei set which has icicle spear because frankly icicle spear is an awful move that doesnt do anything. we might as well trick since that does something
other than that, the no guard agren evs is to ensure huge power agren always revenge kills non-scarf imposter with 0 rng. speaking of, this huge power agren is a pretty potent wincon, another one i'll keep in mind for future use
laddered to 1613 on MyLoveIsABulldozer
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ok so the main problem with mono bug isnt the mon selection. its not even the typing itself either. the problem is that our offensive stats are too low to do anything. yes there's heracross but its far too slow to be anything but a half baked revenge killer. there's beedrill but frankly that mon is just pretty bad and i have no interest in using him. and then we arrive at pheromosa, who is decent but her offensive stats are just a tad bit too low for spam to work, like seriously you're telling me huge power sunsteel doesnt even crack FUCKING 80% on mega gengar???? nah man get me outta this shit
i did like 4 games before quitting because the above calc happened
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dragon is fine. the typing is mid but there are so many usable mons its honestly insane. i have a personal vendetta against mono dragon though because my wifi disconnected 4 times and made me lose in completely unlosable scenarios
the sets are pretty standard-ish minus the last 2. dialga is the anti setup while garchomp returns from mono ground with a vengeance and acts as the raw unboosted power of this team. team's quite weak to no guard though thanks to the overreliance on sash which i surprisingly haven't done so far when building monotype teams considering i only build offense
laddered to 1601 on legendspamisntreal
Grass Spam Dump: https://pokepast.es/2098f5c15c16793amonotype teamdump wooo who the fuck cares
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the typing itself is probably good with the holy trinity of broken offensive psychics however i am truly awful at building teams so theres a pbond mmy and an evoboost hoopa-u and a singular way to comeback from a losing position being innards wobb (no stag mmx doesnt count)
laddered to 1472 on paranormal seeker (definitely couldve gone higher but i got bored)
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also a fine type but its heavily carried by pdon. main setup control is prank pdon + mg pdon, hooh is because of fissure immune + moongeist softcheck. pwhip on reshiram is an attempt to hit pert since the team gets 6-0d by it otherwise. the main problem i found was that speed control really sucked as i didnt want to use talonflame or wg pdon so it ended up hilariously weak to no guard; so i gave this up pretty early
laddered to 1368 on the burning world (same reason as psychic)
Tlālōcān
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most broken monotype by a quite sizable margin, mostly because you actually get blobs to play with. regigigas > slaking here to softcheck mmy and darkinium z on innards is a secondary trick blocker and heals arc up in a pinch. the lopunny is a surprisingly potent wincon for what its worth, and i actually tried using it outside of mono normal to decent success.
laddered to roughly 1700 on glassfrogs and petrichor v
yeah everything is a ror2 reference cry about it
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"why is this not pdon spam" it would be lame as fuck to build pdon spam twice in a row so i limited myself to 2 pdons
ground is in a weird spot where theres a bunch of decent to great mons but likewise to fire theres just not enough speed control. unlike fire however we actually have a solid scarfposter to play around so its not as bad as it is. idk why the lando isnt bounce and the bounce pdon isnt something that actually breaks here tho... pert pivots around and chomper is a phys breaker that can directly kill zyg. the no guard pdon is sick tho i'd keep that in the books for future use
laddered to like 1300 on petrichor v before i crashed out on some ladder bullshit and just started running mono normal instead
My Love Is A Bulldozer
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going into mono ghost i actually expected it to be pretty mid but to my surprise it actually performed quite well, maybe that just has to do with offensive ghost coverage just being broken? idk
anyways you might notice that the fastest mon here is actually mgar... how is this better speed control than some of our previous teams? turns out its actually not bad if you have an innards, an actually solid mg sash spectral guy, harvest (insanely broken) and this fuckass marowak. mimikium on innards tina-o over soulblaze is so we dont increase our defenses, while sparksurfer on harvest tina-o instead of sunraze snipes all of gyarados pogre and hooh. aegiblade is a surprisingly decent wallbreaker for what its worth, highly recommend at least checking the mon itself out maybe with different sets
laddered to 1684 on ghosting ph
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...yes, there is kartana in mono steel. no, that doesn't mean mono steel is good, since kart is basically the only good offensive mon we get.
despite having the second best physical breaker in the game it feels impossible to break both fat and offense without completely giving up the matchup against one (and even trying to beat offense in itself is already a futile task with our selection of mons).
if you have any ideas on how to improve this, feel free to do so because i will not try to continue building nor will i playtest this ever
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theres imposter solid breaking power and solid speed control so already this is one of the better types. mono dark actually has quite a number of usable mons but i went with agren spam since spam is broken when the mon is fast and versatile
the specs agren is hot garbage but its the best rker dark has. (still better than most types though) im not running the ransei set which has icicle spear because frankly icicle spear is an awful move that doesnt do anything. we might as well trick since that does something
other than that, the no guard agren evs is to ensure huge power agren always revenge kills non-scarf imposter with 0 rng. speaking of, this huge power agren is a pretty potent wincon, another one i'll keep in mind for future use
laddered to 1613 on MyLoveIsABulldozer
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ok so the main problem with mono bug isnt the mon selection. its not even the typing itself either. the problem is that our offensive stats are too low to do anything. yes there's heracross but its far too slow to be anything but a half baked revenge killer. there's beedrill but frankly that mon is just pretty bad and i have no interest in using him. and then we arrive at pheromosa, who is decent but her offensive stats are just a tad bit too low for spam to work, like seriously you're telling me huge power sunsteel doesnt even crack FUCKING 80% on mega gengar???? nah man get me outta this shit
i did like 4 games before quitting because the above calc happened
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dragon is fine. the typing is mid but there are so many usable mons its honestly insane. i have a personal vendetta against mono dragon though because my wifi disconnected 4 times and made me lose in completely unlosable scenarios
the sets are pretty standard-ish minus the last 2. dialga is the anti setup while garchomp returns from mono ground with a vengeance and acts as the raw unboosted power of this team. team's quite weak to no guard though thanks to the overreliance on sash which i surprisingly haven't done so far when building monotype teams considering i only build offense
laddered to 1601 on legendspamisntreal
^ guys if your team didn't hit 1550 at least on ladder you should question whether this is actually a good team or if you're about to fall off an elo cliff and the team is the only thing keeping you in mid ladder
truly a moment of all time. It's nice for the spam matchup I guess but this is doing nothing ever into stall or literally any team with big priority that just hits you as you set up. 
you really had to eat me out for something i already know yes it bad it is never going to be a sample i already said that but to really just right in front of me say every single problem with my team and to be fair i do have some other team's now that are better and they all run offensive mbee as i'm trying to get as high up ladder as i can and to be frank the team you just fundamentally dismantled actually got me to number 46 on ladder so i'm really just going to leave it there anymore would be a bit excessive but here are the three new team's i now run https://pokepast.es/ac5033fc12f4a0c9 https://pokepast.es/2f9628c64d05c1e0 https://pokepast.es/db4a0b6cf133e2af ransei viola ~ lunala ^﹏^ and someone else i forget helped make these team's.PH Moderators delete onelines challenge (please Ransei Eyeos NToTheN TheCreatorOfBullsht this isn't allowed and is clogging the thread)
Since I want to avoid annoying myself, let's analyze exactly why hello1433's team will never be a sample. Hint: It's not because it's mbee offense, it's because it's bad. I will also dump some random teams again because why not?
First off, the bee itself. U-Turn is cool into offense because you OHKO mmy and do like 50-60 to mmx so you can effectively revenge kill them plus play rough always OHKOs mmx, forcing it out and pressing u-turn so you can keep momentum. I mean, you're huge power adamant, obviously you can guarantee to force out pokemon you have super effective coverage for.
252+ Atk Huge Power Beedrill-Mega Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Mewtwo-Mega-X: 378-446 (90.8 - 107.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
Never mind, every time you go to kill MMX you are gambling on a less than 40% chance after accuracy to actually kill it. It's not like you have hazards either so this will always be the roll unless you get previous chip which isn't exactly the easiest thing to get on mmx with this squad (more later).
So your speed control can't really kill mmx. Well, your wonder guard can swap into it to score some chip with u-turn, putting it into range. Because of course you picked a WG who can improof bee like kyogre or ferrothorn or maybe even scizor who woulddie to the good set pressing light that burns the sky after rocksscore crucial damage and let bee revenge.
Never mind, your wonder guard is maud so you take 70 percent minimum just from photon and LTBTS cleanly OHKOS. Also, you don't improof beedrill. Also you're the most passive set of all time apparently. All of these sample submissions have a basically do nothing mon, is this obligatory on low ladder offense? Give up all your pressure for fun?
Well, at the very least if maud doesn't improof bee, you can just sack innards to it to improof, that's fine on HO. I'm saying this because of course you used innards blissey or even chansey because those are the good sets.
I'm skipping gengar for the narrative shut up
Ok so our max defenses innards lunala can't take out imposter. It's also photon ghiest fairy which is close to sunsteel ghiest fairy except instead of killing meloetta and muk and blobs and houndoom (tbf +2 mmm probably dunks on this) you actually get walled by them instead. Imp of this also totally just either forces a 1f1 with this or kills it and then forces a trade with regigigas or gengar's sash because it still. isn't. improofed. by. your. wonder guard pokemon.
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truly a moment of all time. It's nice for the spam matchup I guess but this is doing nothing ever into stall or literally any team with big priority that just hits you as you set up.
scarf pbond mmx victim tooVery dated set but it's fine I guess, it does successfully cope a couple of mus. Melo walling two mons is probably fine considering how its bee fodder. That's really not that much of the team anyways.
Ok so it walls the regigigas too and this might be the worst set I've ever seen. WG espeed multiattack spectral? Arceus did not conceive of this set when making USUM PH. Speaking of arceus, just use arceus. Also why are you hasty? Giving up free damage to sunsteel users.
Finally, speaking about sunsteel users we have the first good, relevant set on the entire team in pdon except it's lonely. Just use naughty
Genuinely good set except it literally isnt improofed so you just sack about two thirds of regigigas's health assuming it doesn't smash a second time and then thief. Alternatively, you sack gengar down to sash and then spore. Is it really that hard to just use heatran or something? Hell, kyogre would be better than maud here if it weren't for the gengar because it's fat fuck specially so freeze dry doesnt do half and then scald does one trillion percent or something.
Overall, this team has three pokemon improofed by hopes and dreams, two pokemon hardproofed, and one pokemon who does nothing anyways but imp gets free healing. You also have 3 pokemon who simply aren't optimized, 3 pokemon who can't hit meloetta, the entire team is semi-walled by kyogre if you don't get lucky on sleep turns or high-roll on Z, muk is horrible for you, nothing on your team outspeeds MMX... There's just so many weaknesses that I genuinely cannot imagine a real team losing to this, especially not a real team with melo. It's fun to dunk on zenith mode or samples if they're bad but this loses hard enough to every real playstyle that it's probably easier to make a good bee team by deleting everything and starting over.
my solution would probably be mmx-> maud, taunt tspikes gar -> mg gar, arceus -> regigigas, innards blissey-> lunala, lonely -> naughty.
random teams as promised
https://pokepast.es/90fd3cde0fa5d032 so it looks like dark psychic ghost spam but actually that's a normal!! yeah its aerobee slop but with certified clicker mmx
https://pokepast.es/419c642c197f7425 steam eruption? are you insane? yes??? my opponents will go insane after trying to use wg ho-oh or heatran or houndoom to check this because they saw protean and thought sunsteel ghiest fairy +2 252 SpA Protean Mewtwo-Mega-Y Steam Eruption vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Ho-Oh: 516-608 (124.3 - 146.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO boom that's a free kill and now the stall user is more like a stall loser haha gottem. Also big tyranitar is good and i fucking love leppa berry
That's all for today but please delete one liners it makes it unfair to people who have to actually make teams to ask mods to delete them or else they're also making one liners, fortunately the sample submissions are bad enough to sustain asking for deletes for a while
the mmx is honey gather lol change that
PH Moderators delete onelines challenge (please @Ransei @Eyeos @NToTheN @TheCreatorOfBullsht this isn't allowed and is clogging the thread)
These teams look fun. I've always been a fan of Protean MMY. Is Life Orb necessary for rolls against Ho-Oh or something? Have you tried 4 attacks Protean MMY? It used to be a lot better when the meta was more balance-oriented cause fast threats like Pheromosa weren't as common but I think it could still be usable here. I do think the Ttar might be a bit of a momentum sink though which is unfortunate on a very offensive team like this.https://pokepast.es/90fd3cde0fa5d032 so it looks like dark psychic ghost spam but actually that's a normal!! yeah its aerobee slop but with certified clicker mmx
https://pokepast.es/419c642c197f7425 steam eruption? are you insane? yes??? my opponents will go insane after trying to use wg ho-oh or heatran or houndoom to check this because they saw protean and thought sunsteel ghiest fairy +2 252 SpA Protean Mewtwo-Mega-Y Steam Eruption vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Ho-Oh: 516-608 (124.3 - 146.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO boom that's a free kill and now the stall user is more like a stall loser haha gottem. Also big tyranitar is good and i fucking love leppa berry
lorb lets you get calcs like ohkoing muk/steela with sunsteel/geist which can be useful, sash is better overall though imo just because of how useful sash isI don't have mod privileges in this thread, neither do Eyeos or Bullsht
These teams look fun. I've always been a fan of Protean MMY. Is Life Orb necessary for rolls against Ho-Oh or something? Have you tried 4 attacks Protean MMY? It used to be a lot better when the meta was more balance-oriented cause fast threats like Pheromosa weren't as common but I think it could still be usable here. I do think the Ttar might be a bit of a momentum sink though which is unfortunate on a very offensive team like this.
Me.someone else i forget helped make these team's.
rip that means Ransei needs to lock in…I don't have mod privileges in this thread, neither do Eyeos or Bullsht
These teams look fun. I've always been a fan of Protean MMY. Is Life Orb necessary for rolls against Ho-Oh or something? Have you tried 4 attacks Protean MMY? It used to be a lot better when the meta was more balance-oriented cause fast threats like Pheromosa weren't as common but I think it could still be usable here. I do think the Ttar might be a bit of a momentum sink though which is unfortunate on a very offensive team like this.
Hell there Dark Wall if this is you (That nickname seems familiar, also I am not blind) ALSO If your gonna dissect team's at least provide constructive criticism on HOW to fix said teams otherwise your just being a prick IMO doing such actions without at least Proving some Teambuilding TIPS is just Idk Welp Idfk anymore ladder is shit Edit: Buddy do you just like being a prick? like just pointing out every FLAW in a team? well post one of YOUR teams here if you belive yourself SOO good at least provide proof of having the teambuilding knowledge to be disecting teams like thisrip that means Ransei needs to lock in…
lorb is cool for going from under 75% with steam to 80 min on hooh plus guarantees OHKO on heatran unboosted plus as ptoast suggested damage is fun (+2 sunsteel always kills Melo vs never kills Melo).
4a or 3a spore sounds interesting but I personally prefer the instant wins +2 mmy can get versus stuff like those stalls where your mmy answer is wg or prank hooh and then it takes 80% and they forfeit lol.
ttar does sink momentum a bit but leppa LTBTS off 165 atk obviously helps with this + you can go glare over ssap. Encore/Lkiss/Spore are also probably fine. Pursuit is pretty important to the set, I made it to hard punish pbond gengar for actually clicking moongeist and pick off that annoying psysurge spam on ladder and then backwards improofed MMX with it (which is why it’s v-create)
I’ll upload a post tearing apart the other teams later ZeldaFan1, I actually wrote this but then turned off my computer which deleted it and since it was like six paragraphs per team (I was VERY bored) I didn’t feel like writing it again
anyways tyranitar is really cool and CFZs are really good so I might try some harvtar shiest
I don’t really know how to end this either so hello1433 ladder is a false matrix, if you spam enough games at it eventually you win enough to get high ladder because 90% of the players suck which is how Zeus got #1. Also viola lunala built one of the teams lol explains 248 HP mg gar. We got blind leading the blind in USUM PH before GTA 6
finally uhhh it has come to my awareness that one of my teams has zap cannon mgb gengar. Please make one of these fissure/sheercold.
apparently I got to the 29th page? Can I say first? Couldnt have done it without the spam of obnoxious oneliners shoutout Yeetoos and the others
noice! though bleak blast is weird?honestly i'm not against ladder because the post phpl ladder is pretty much the only ladder i've ever known so this feels very normal, the only ladder i played before was low ladder which doesn't follow any meta shifts
also if you've been wondering why i always call fcBYRD its because of this team which i peaked 1500 with and really liked
Viola ~ Lunala ^﹏^ What was with that response? I understand you might be frustrated at their complaining but please try to be more civil than this. If you have a problem with them work it out in DMs, not in a public thread.Ahh Yes double submission to make Eyeos test more samples LOVELY! also No I will not stop with the one liners yes im just teasing yes im gonna post the most annoying team to have eyeos test!
Sorry I was just trying to cool things off with a joke my apologies if anything came of as rude but things have been worked out also atp Its a running Gag that Eyeos is the only team testerOK things are started to get a little bit heated so I'm just going to step in.
Mewtwo's Greatest Soldier we've seen you complaining about one-liners and such. I do agree but it's not nearly as bad as you've been making it out to be. Short posts are fine as long as they add constructively to the conversation which most posts have. Despite the name, when we discourage "one-liners" we aren't literally discouraging posts that are one line long, although yes ideally there would be more. Just for example, take the short posts replying to rightclicker's monotype teams post. Would the posts be higher quality if there was a little paragraph about the team accompanying them or something else? Sure. But they are hardly worth deleting in their current states because they do contribute to the discussion. There are posts on here that aren't constructive and probably warrant deleting but the reaction seems disproportionate. We do hear you though that some of the discussion on here might be better suited for the PS! room or discord and we agree.
Viola ~ Lunala ^﹏^ What was with that response? I understand you might be frustrated at their complaining but please try to be more civil than this. If you have a problem with them work it out in DMs, not in a public thread.
Also usum council tests teams not just eyeos idk where this idea that only eyeos tests sample submissions got started ;-;
Upon reconsideration on our part as USUM Pure Hackmons council, we will now be replacing the Bird Council Yveltal Spam with Child of Night's Primal Kyogre stall team, which has done impressively on the ladder and against notable players alike.I and the rest of the USUM Council have acknowledged that our resources haven't been updated in a very long time, so we've looked into changes being made to update things to the current state of the metagame and what draws players in. The VR Update is currently being worked on and will be posted some time in the near future. For now, we have sample teams updated.
After lots of consideration to the effectiveness of submitted teams as well as their overall appeal in the meta from incoming players, here list of teams and updates:
Sample Teams
(Most offensive <---> Most defensive)
MMX Spam Hyper Offense by sussyamongusdrip
Lopunny + Psychic Terrain Hyper Offense by gold0987
White Kyurem Offense by aerobee
Ash Ketchum Offense by Ransei
Diamancie Revamped by Eyeos
Yveltal Spam by Archey
Shadow Tag Gyarados Stall by Eyeos
Z Pdon + No Guard Greninja Offense by NToTheN
Power Trip Gyarados + Ice Shard Leppa MMX Balance by NToTheN
Shedinja Semistall by aerobee
Z-Lovely Kiss Greninja Baton Pass by aerobee
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Anchor Shot Audino + Scarf Imposter Stall by aerobee
Dual Magic Guard Triple MMX Hyper Offense by Bahamut
MMX + Lunala Balance by NToTheN
Primal Groudon Spam by aerobee
Smash Mega Gyarados Psychic Terrain Hyper Offense by aerobee
No Guard Lopunny Hyper Offense by Bahamut
PBond Gengar + Bounce PDon Offense by NToTheN
Zenith Mode by Ransei
Altrove by @AV Cosmoem
CLOCKUP FLOWERS by Akira 153
Trick-or-Treat Yveltal Balance by @AV Cosmoem
Huge Power Primal Groudon Balance by NToTheN
Substitute Harvest Slaking Semistall by sussyamongusdrip
Changelog:
February 10, 2024
- Changed HP EVs to 248 on BP sample Greninja
August 12, 2024
November 2, 2024
November 5, 2024
- Moved Z-Lovely Kiss Fullpass team to legacy
- Moved Anchor Shot Mega Audino stall to legacy
- Added Stag Gyara Stall to samples
- Added Sub Harvest Slaking Semistall to samples
- Added Z Pdon + No Guard Gren to legacy
- Added Power Trip Gyara + Ice Shard MMX to legacy
- Added Shedinja Semistall to legacy
December 28, 2024
- Fixed EVs in Stag Gyarados Stall by Eyeos
- Fixed a few teams not linking to author account correctly
February 9, 2025
- Moved Dual Magic Guard Triple MMX Hyper Offense to legacy
- Added Zenith Mode to samples
- Reordered the sample teams to better reflect how offensive/defensive each team is
April 2, 2025
- Moved MMX + Lunala Balance to legacy
- Added Trick-or-Treat Yveltal Balance to samples
April 3, 2025
- Moved Primal Groudon Spam to legacy
- Moved aerobee's psychic terrain HO to legacy
- Moved No Guard Lopunny HO by Bahamut to legacy
- Moved Pdond Gengar + Bounce PDon Offense to legacy
- Moved Zenith Mode to legacy
- Moved Diamancie to legacy
- Added MMX spam hyper offense to samples
- Added gold's Lopunny + psyterrain HO to samples
- Added Altrove by samples
- Added CLOCKUP FLOWERS to samples
- Added Huge Power Primal Groudon Balance to samples
- Added Diamancie revampled to samples
October 18, 2025
- Fixed moves on Lopunny + Psyterrain HO
- Moved Altrove to legacy
- Moved CLOCKUP FLOWERS to legacy
- Moved Huge Power Primal Groudon Balance to legacy
- Moved Substitute Harvest Slaking Semistall to legacy
- Added White Kyurem Offense to samples
- Added Ash Ketchum to samples
- Added Yveltal spam to samples
- Removed Diamancie from legacy
Enjoy!
First of all we are usually trying to avoid posting one liners with barely any useful imformations.yes finally someone else understands mbee's capabilities as a sweeper. i really thought i was the only one who uses mbee this why but either way yes yes yyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss.