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SPOILERS! Legends ZA Data Dumps - Adding Info to OP
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Mega hat.
The textureless animated model we saw earlier has the female's ponytail attached to the top of the extended male's mane. They both become the same Mega.
OK I need someone who has access to the USUM, SWSH & L:A zukan files something fierce because trying to parse the Gen 7 (& 8) alt form listings and am going insane
There are way more tagged entries than I think Gen 7 has forms of and its making it hard to try and narrow down things. I feel like I'm missing obvious things but you can see that I'm desperate enough to lean on the scrapped celesteela form. Like that can't possibly be one.
Still, those are the tagged ones. Those arent' as relevant to our actual discussion, only my sanity.
Before trying to give my guesses as to the scrubbed entries, here's what the supposed gen 7 scrubbed Pokemon are. I think the only GEn 7 in Z-A is Drampa itself?
Crabrawler
Crabominable
Wimpod
Golisopod
Sandygast
Palossand
Mimikyu
Magearna
Marshadow
Zeraora
Meltan
Melmetal
-Scrub #1 seems "early" on, when you consider all the early game Pokemon that have forms that would be tagged. As such I think this might be Mega crabominable
-Scrub #2...So I am making a BIG assumption that the long stretch of tags are the Silvally & Minior Forms. If this assumption is true than the first tag has be someone before Silvally which would have to be Mega Golisopod or Palossand
-Scrub #3...on the same assumption that it's after Minior, and obviously before Drampa, then the only option left would be Mega Mimikyu.
-I think the tagged one at the end has to be GMax Melmetal. We know Mega Zeraora is in the cards and the only gen 7 alt form left is GNax Melmetal. In otherwords, the 4 scrubs preceding it can't be something like Mega Corviknight.
-With that tag in mind, then the things those 4 can be are very limited. One of them has to be Mega Zeraora, one has to be Original Color Magearna. Marshadow's "zenith" form (it's the thing that happens when it lights up while attacking) isn't a true form, so it can't be here. Meltan has no forms. Therefore...2 of them have the potential to be Mega Magearna, Marshadow &/or Melmetal (with Zeraora & OC Magearna slotting in appropriately). Alternatively, we should remember, these could be extra alternate forms not locked to Megas; perhaps "Zenith" gets upgraded to a proper form and has no mega to go with it as an example.
Gen 8 (much less 9) is likewise looking very confusing. I'll probably try posting that tomorrow after sleeping on it.
1345 msg_b1b5ab98e8e231518982f0b77f52e34d [~ 1345] Hisuian Decidueye
1346 msg_bd2cdbd80e9fa05665914c01e43bf26f [~ 1346] ?????
1347 msg_fa4ab5c8d3a6391516c637c4ef8f4e8d ?????
1348 msg_6866324b8608a916c19486b59d9f63ea [~ 1348] Oricorio
1349 msg_bac8863746d447fb63444db365175354 [~ 1349] Oricorio
1350 msg_67b33df893364929c4453999f187a383 [~ 1350] Oricorio
1351 msg_d91f08bec386e68483b35232fff2ea6a [~ 1351] Own Tempo Rockruff
1352 msg_7cf8cdbf729c7bef0dbe59bd1e18566d [~ 1352] Midnight Lycanroc
1353 msg_d604b7926eec30bde654181476baf2b7 [~ 1353] Dusk Lycanroc
1354 msg_5e8fda23efc697997d8a9fcd120d4d8f [~ 1354] Schooling Wishiwashi
1355 msg_73839b7b41863e7f44582513548a185b [~ 1355] ?????
1356 msg_891038b49b047a2dd96c06196862624a [~ 1356] ?????
1357 msg_5ad795353b41fdf029c459bfc2c46627 [~ 1357] ?????
1358 msg_9119f53dfa8b1ccc6ec4c9df287ccb74 [~ 1358] ?????
1359 msg_5857b11fff0c855d338552405f39d148 ?????
1360 msg_60cd99c7a9191cac7ca37262114b412d [~ 1360] Silvally?
1361 msg_5cc5c6ab311eabd1794f805b6eb702f8 [~ 1361] Silvally?
1362 msg_d22efa0e8536929591a4b01e0374c3b0 [~ 1362] Silvally?
1363 msg_ae60ccf5d8beddc874c4110acdacd3e8 [~ 1363] Silvally?
1364 msg_0e38a70ad6fc425932e243e0a91b501e [~ 1364] Silvally?
1365 msg_aa7987c7bcfcdcf09cfa4c0f0354d331 [~ 1365] Silvally?
1366 msg_3bafd3419f420230056b25b3a6578c02 [~ 1366] Silvally?
1367 msg_5a44f6994a24496dc7a55c43b966cfdc [~ 1367] Silvally?
1368 msg_61a0f9ee884165a637ad637862706934 [~ 1368] Silvally?
1369 msg_907a76b4025a8b43b71f1ad3ade193b2 [~ 1369] Silvally?
1370 msg_7298b0d9dd4b48300138352da116864e [~ 1370] Silvally?
1371 msg_2fbff7b457f2bbadfe6c9e15dd2c4ae7 [~ 1371] Silvally?
1372 msg_45be25ea767ba790ff1deb3a852c4688 [~ 1372] Silvally?
1373 msg_e782164741232dc78fc5b9b807877b2b [~ 1373] Silvally?
1374 msg_002648d7cb9a6f17a195125caaaa783a [~ 1374] Silvally?
1375 msg_856cff0eb4344896d9a9f8c3b6c3fe41 [~ 1375] Silvally?
1376 msg_509e54fe6f3e8b36fec6b9607f3c028f [~ 1376] Silvally?
1377 msg_72f727239c26b37e2f3b165f3d511539 [~ 1377] Silvally?
1378 msg_bba96b99d7b7ec7d8e9f02ded5803a0e [~ 1378] Minior Meteor?
1379 msg_286d2c15d1a79efd65904ad2b8fc41c5 [~ 1379] Minior Meteor?
1380 msg_1e1412a15f4ea2058b881471eba060ca [~ 1380] Minior Meteor?
1381 msg_8e07756b3f48719925f5ed2411ff92eb [~ 1381] Minior Meteor?
1382 msg_bea510930cf261e1d22659ab06ddb326 [~ 1382] Minior Meteor?
1383 msg_f581e53903f68735b450a955ee31e0cd [~ 1383] Minior Meteor?
1384 msg_2bb88b2ea91af108d354b9697463b470 [~ 1384] Minior Core?
1385 msg_7964896e4e8e3b810f55461f8bf5e3d7 [~ 1385] Minior Core?
1386 msg_e2e75faf6abd05d2268075149edd14f9 [~ 1386] Minior Core?
1387 msg_64cf9397c758a70583d0d46fa1f12815 [~ 1387] Minior Core?
1388 msg_487da524b65c5820d5f7ecc33f581eb9 [~ 1388] Minior Core?
1389 msg_8e710388c666ddb5727c85a7459e1943 [~ 1389] Minior Core?
1390 msg_4b1f718d204c65c7ac313c434e6f08e3 [~ 1390] Busted Mimikyu?
1391 msg_0b01893ffeb02dcb215d06e463279eec ?????
1392 msg_4eebebc6b5c37b92306500ad6b22ad59 [~ 1392] ?????
1393 msg_31d9e8ed6311724e5b3dbab0a3853e71 [~ 1393] ?????
1394 ZKN_COMMENT_A_780_001 Drampa’s cells have been invigorated, allowing\nit to regain its youth. It manipulates the\natmosphere to summon storms. Mega Drampa
1395 msg_9f53662480e16bce053a95e6d3cfa6a8 [~ 1395] Celesteela’s Scrapped Form?
1396 msg_b4a30c45b34f964104637cc69ca65483 [~ 1396] Necrozma Dusk
1397 msg_2f4cdd10dd8ff9166b5a15d7e6afda5e [~ 1397] Necrozma Dawn
1398 msg_657ccde916a4fb23524dca0bb731e4e6 [~ 1398] Necrozma Ultra
1399 msg_65eab8bfeca878a0be63bec3b0b66490 ??????
1400 msg_f60a8013ac2389790ab5e0fb7bcf10f1 ?????
1401 msg_63b41e2dfbf537b9001dee8bdc919841 ?????
1402 msg_431514ea5cd6b1bdaf1c9a94be1721a5 ?????
1403 msg_d10a46f19de1b53ec7641a8fad5d878b [~ 1403] Gmax Melmetal?
1346 msg_bd2cdbd80e9fa05665914c01e43bf26f [~ 1346] ?????
1347 msg_fa4ab5c8d3a6391516c637c4ef8f4e8d ?????
1348 msg_6866324b8608a916c19486b59d9f63ea [~ 1348] Oricorio
1349 msg_bac8863746d447fb63444db365175354 [~ 1349] Oricorio
1350 msg_67b33df893364929c4453999f187a383 [~ 1350] Oricorio
1351 msg_d91f08bec386e68483b35232fff2ea6a [~ 1351] Own Tempo Rockruff
1352 msg_7cf8cdbf729c7bef0dbe59bd1e18566d [~ 1352] Midnight Lycanroc
1353 msg_d604b7926eec30bde654181476baf2b7 [~ 1353] Dusk Lycanroc
1354 msg_5e8fda23efc697997d8a9fcd120d4d8f [~ 1354] Schooling Wishiwashi
1355 msg_73839b7b41863e7f44582513548a185b [~ 1355] ?????
1356 msg_891038b49b047a2dd96c06196862624a [~ 1356] ?????
1357 msg_5ad795353b41fdf029c459bfc2c46627 [~ 1357] ?????
1358 msg_9119f53dfa8b1ccc6ec4c9df287ccb74 [~ 1358] ?????
1359 msg_5857b11fff0c855d338552405f39d148 ?????
1360 msg_60cd99c7a9191cac7ca37262114b412d [~ 1360] Silvally?
1361 msg_5cc5c6ab311eabd1794f805b6eb702f8 [~ 1361] Silvally?
1362 msg_d22efa0e8536929591a4b01e0374c3b0 [~ 1362] Silvally?
1363 msg_ae60ccf5d8beddc874c4110acdacd3e8 [~ 1363] Silvally?
1364 msg_0e38a70ad6fc425932e243e0a91b501e [~ 1364] Silvally?
1365 msg_aa7987c7bcfcdcf09cfa4c0f0354d331 [~ 1365] Silvally?
1366 msg_3bafd3419f420230056b25b3a6578c02 [~ 1366] Silvally?
1367 msg_5a44f6994a24496dc7a55c43b966cfdc [~ 1367] Silvally?
1368 msg_61a0f9ee884165a637ad637862706934 [~ 1368] Silvally?
1369 msg_907a76b4025a8b43b71f1ad3ade193b2 [~ 1369] Silvally?
1370 msg_7298b0d9dd4b48300138352da116864e [~ 1370] Silvally?
1371 msg_2fbff7b457f2bbadfe6c9e15dd2c4ae7 [~ 1371] Silvally?
1372 msg_45be25ea767ba790ff1deb3a852c4688 [~ 1372] Silvally?
1373 msg_e782164741232dc78fc5b9b807877b2b [~ 1373] Silvally?
1374 msg_002648d7cb9a6f17a195125caaaa783a [~ 1374] Silvally?
1375 msg_856cff0eb4344896d9a9f8c3b6c3fe41 [~ 1375] Silvally?
1376 msg_509e54fe6f3e8b36fec6b9607f3c028f [~ 1376] Silvally?
1377 msg_72f727239c26b37e2f3b165f3d511539 [~ 1377] Silvally?
1378 msg_bba96b99d7b7ec7d8e9f02ded5803a0e [~ 1378] Minior Meteor?
1379 msg_286d2c15d1a79efd65904ad2b8fc41c5 [~ 1379] Minior Meteor?
1380 msg_1e1412a15f4ea2058b881471eba060ca [~ 1380] Minior Meteor?
1381 msg_8e07756b3f48719925f5ed2411ff92eb [~ 1381] Minior Meteor?
1382 msg_bea510930cf261e1d22659ab06ddb326 [~ 1382] Minior Meteor?
1383 msg_f581e53903f68735b450a955ee31e0cd [~ 1383] Minior Meteor?
1384 msg_2bb88b2ea91af108d354b9697463b470 [~ 1384] Minior Core?
1385 msg_7964896e4e8e3b810f55461f8bf5e3d7 [~ 1385] Minior Core?
1386 msg_e2e75faf6abd05d2268075149edd14f9 [~ 1386] Minior Core?
1387 msg_64cf9397c758a70583d0d46fa1f12815 [~ 1387] Minior Core?
1388 msg_487da524b65c5820d5f7ecc33f581eb9 [~ 1388] Minior Core?
1389 msg_8e710388c666ddb5727c85a7459e1943 [~ 1389] Minior Core?
1390 msg_4b1f718d204c65c7ac313c434e6f08e3 [~ 1390] Busted Mimikyu?
1391 msg_0b01893ffeb02dcb215d06e463279eec ?????
1392 msg_4eebebc6b5c37b92306500ad6b22ad59 [~ 1392] ?????
1393 msg_31d9e8ed6311724e5b3dbab0a3853e71 [~ 1393] ?????
1394 ZKN_COMMENT_A_780_001 Drampa’s cells have been invigorated, allowing\nit to regain its youth. It manipulates the\natmosphere to summon storms. Mega Drampa
1395 msg_9f53662480e16bce053a95e6d3cfa6a8 [~ 1395] Celesteela’s Scrapped Form?
1396 msg_b4a30c45b34f964104637cc69ca65483 [~ 1396] Necrozma Dusk
1397 msg_2f4cdd10dd8ff9166b5a15d7e6afda5e [~ 1397] Necrozma Dawn
1398 msg_657ccde916a4fb23524dca0bb731e4e6 [~ 1398] Necrozma Ultra
1399 msg_65eab8bfeca878a0be63bec3b0b66490 ??????
1400 msg_f60a8013ac2389790ab5e0fb7bcf10f1 ?????
1401 msg_63b41e2dfbf537b9001dee8bdc919841 ?????
1402 msg_431514ea5cd6b1bdaf1c9a94be1721a5 ?????
1403 msg_d10a46f19de1b53ec7641a8fad5d878b [~ 1403] Gmax Melmetal?
Still, those are the tagged ones. Those arent' as relevant to our actual discussion, only my sanity.
Before trying to give my guesses as to the scrubbed entries, here's what the supposed gen 7 scrubbed Pokemon are. I think the only GEn 7 in Z-A is Drampa itself?
Crabrawler
Crabominable
Wimpod
Golisopod
Sandygast
Palossand
Mimikyu
Magearna
Marshadow
Zeraora
Meltan
Melmetal
-Scrub #1 seems "early" on, when you consider all the early game Pokemon that have forms that would be tagged. As such I think this might be Mega crabominable
-Scrub #2...So I am making a BIG assumption that the long stretch of tags are the Silvally & Minior Forms. If this assumption is true than the first tag has be someone before Silvally which would have to be Mega Golisopod or Palossand
-Scrub #3...on the same assumption that it's after Minior, and obviously before Drampa, then the only option left would be Mega Mimikyu.
-I think the tagged one at the end has to be GMax Melmetal. We know Mega Zeraora is in the cards and the only gen 7 alt form left is GNax Melmetal. In otherwords, the 4 scrubs preceding it can't be something like Mega Corviknight.
-With that tag in mind, then the things those 4 can be are very limited. One of them has to be Mega Zeraora, one has to be Original Color Magearna. Marshadow's "zenith" form (it's the thing that happens when it lights up while attacking) isn't a true form, so it can't be here. Meltan has no forms. Therefore...2 of them have the potential to be Mega Magearna, Marshadow &/or Melmetal (with Zeraora & OC Magearna slotting in appropriately). Alternatively, we should remember, these could be extra alternate forms not locked to Megas; perhaps "Zenith" gets upgraded to a proper form and has no mega to go with it as an example.
Gen 8 (much less 9) is likewise looking very confusing. I'll probably try posting that tomorrow after sleeping on it.
If it makes you feel better I suspect that a certain marshadow fan will be asking for my location after this post. My time on this earth is growing more fleeting....
So it turns out we didn't even need to do any of the work ourselves: zkn_form.txt already has all the alt forms listed by name (presumably it's the part of the pokedex that tells you what form you're looking at)
Everything you said for the earlier gens matches it pretty perfectly, with some of the stuff being extra unnamed forms like totem pokemon or partner pikachu/eevee. For the later gens, they use index numbers and not pokedex numbers, so you get a few things like lando moving ahead of zekrom/reshiram and the gen IX gang being in their original datamined order. I'm looking over it right now to see what it might mean for megas.
Edit: Here's what I've found. As a disclaimer, it's entirely possible that some or all of these are not actually mega evolutions, and are some other sort of new form, like a regional or something. It's also possible that the order isn't what I think it is and all of these form IDs belong to other pokemon, whether new or old. And most importantly, it's very much possible that this is all meaningless junk data and the only new megas in the DLC are the Mega Raichus. But probably not.
Raichu X (confirmed)
Raichu Y (confirmed)
Mega Chimecho or Mega Tropius
Mega Wynaut? (Could be a second Mega Absol, actually)
Mega Something Sinnoh (After Deoxys, so it is a Sinnoh pokemon, but one before Burmy. Staraptor? Luxray? Roserade?)
Mega Munchlax? Second Mega Garchomp?
Mega (Lucario 2/Hippowdon/Drapion/Toxicroak/Carnivine/Finneon)
Mega Heatran
Mega Darkrai
Mega Mienshao/Golurk (I know someone on r/stunfisk who'd be happy about that)/Bouffalant
Mega Meowstic (unless it's mimi evolving into a secret third meowstic or something)
Mega Vikavolt (pleasepleaseplease) or Mega Crabominable (its gonna be the crab goddammit)
Mega Something Between Salazzle and Silvally
THE WEIRD PART: There are 5(!) scrubs in between Original Color Magearna and GMax Melmetal. If one of these is Mega Zeraora, then the others might be the other gen VII mythicals (including Magearna) + Naganadel. I feel like it'd be weird to have something for Stakataka or Blace but not both of them (or any of the other regular ultra beasts), but if there's one thing game freak's good at, it's not following a pattern.
THE WEIRD PART 2: Right after Crowned Zamazenta, there's an entry that's scrubbed like the rest of these, but it has a tag, unlike everything else in the document. Notably, GMaxes (including Eternamax Eternatus) are considered the 999th form of their respective pokemon, so it might be something funky related to that. I never played Sword or Shield myself, so I don't really know if there was like a cutscene exclusive Eternatus form or something.
Mega (Arboliva/Scovillain/Bellibolt/Revavroom/Orthworm)
Mega (Maushold/Cetitan/BIG BAX)
THE WEIRD PART 3: There are another 6 mystery entries between Tatsugiri and Squawkabilly, going by the SV internal order. The part about this that's weird, though, is that there only 5 fully evolved pokemon possible for that even if you count Tatsugiri. If these really are all mega evolutions, then we would be getting another set of X/Y megas (possibly even two!) with Tatsugiri, Cyclizar (one based on Koraidon, one based on Miraidon?) Pawmot, Kilowattrel, and Bombirdier as candidates.
Lastly, there's one more scrubbed entry between White Squawkabilly and Roaming Gimmighoul. This could be a lot of things: Flamigo, Klawf, Garganacl, Glimmora, Grafaiai, Dachsbun, Mabosstiff, Brambleghast, or of course something for Squawkabilly itself.
Also, all of the SV DLC pokemon are listed after all of the alternate forms, with their own alts (plus bluna) listed after that.
Raichu Y (confirmed)
Mega Chimecho or Mega Tropius
Mega Wynaut? (Could be a second Mega Absol, actually)
Mega Something Sinnoh (After Deoxys, so it is a Sinnoh pokemon, but one before Burmy. Staraptor? Luxray? Roserade?)
Mega Munchlax? Second Mega Garchomp?
Mega (Lucario 2/Hippowdon/Drapion/Toxicroak/Carnivine/Finneon)
Mega Heatran
Mega Darkrai
Mega Mienshao/Golurk (I know someone on r/stunfisk who'd be happy about that)/Bouffalant
Mega Meowstic (unless it's mimi evolving into a secret third meowstic or something)
Mega Vikavolt (pleasepleaseplease) or Mega Crabominable (its gonna be the crab goddammit)
Mega Something Between Salazzle and Silvally
THE WEIRD PART: There are 5(!) scrubs in between Original Color Magearna and GMax Melmetal. If one of these is Mega Zeraora, then the others might be the other gen VII mythicals (including Magearna) + Naganadel. I feel like it'd be weird to have something for Stakataka or Blace but not both of them (or any of the other regular ultra beasts), but if there's one thing game freak's good at, it's not following a pattern.
THE WEIRD PART 2: Right after Crowned Zamazenta, there's an entry that's scrubbed like the rest of these, but it has a tag, unlike everything else in the document. Notably, GMaxes (including Eternamax Eternatus) are considered the 999th form of their respective pokemon, so it might be something funky related to that. I never played Sword or Shield myself, so I don't really know if there was like a cutscene exclusive Eternatus form or something.
Mega (Arboliva/Scovillain/Bellibolt/Revavroom/Orthworm)
Mega (Maushold/Cetitan/BIG BAX)
THE WEIRD PART 3: There are another 6 mystery entries between Tatsugiri and Squawkabilly, going by the SV internal order. The part about this that's weird, though, is that there only 5 fully evolved pokemon possible for that even if you count Tatsugiri. If these really are all mega evolutions, then we would be getting another set of X/Y megas (possibly even two!) with Tatsugiri, Cyclizar (one based on Koraidon, one based on Miraidon?) Pawmot, Kilowattrel, and Bombirdier as candidates.
Lastly, there's one more scrubbed entry between White Squawkabilly and Roaming Gimmighoul. This could be a lot of things: Flamigo, Klawf, Garganacl, Glimmora, Grafaiai, Dachsbun, Mabosstiff, Brambleghast, or of course something for Squawkabilly itself.
Also, all of the SV DLC pokemon are listed after all of the alternate forms, with their own alts (plus bluna) listed after that.
I do think I'm on to something here, though. Other leak stuff indicates that Z-A was intended to release a lot earlier, so it makes sense that there'd be fragments of what they developed for the DLC in its code since it can be hard to fully scrub everything. To give a comparison, Monster Hunter Wilds had a similar thing happen with it just under a year ago, where its open beta test (made from a development build with scrubbed data) ended up not only having data on all of the monsters and areas in the final game, but major story beats as well. And Pokemon is of course no stranger to this, either, what with the Sun & Moon demo fiasco and all. Also, excluding the different WEIRD PARTS (aside from part of the first one), the total list seems to come up to 15 megas, which matches perfectly with the DLC teaser.
and you know its important when i bust out the proper grammar
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Alright....Gonna be real, they killed it with this one. He looks badass AND Gorgeous
two of my favorite gen 5 pokemon getting megas that are really sick looking is so nice man
mega pig and mega bug horse hell yeah
mega pig and mega bug horse hell yeah
Yeah, I dont know but I get the feeling some of the designers here had that little human fault of "well I'm not a fan of these Pokémon but I have to buff them somehow" and did some lazy increases. Electross, Victreebel, and Pyroar feel uninspired on the BST side. Its like someone on the dev team said "fine I'll buff the shitmons, happy?" Plus unless Malamar gets something crazy its so bad too.
if it keeps contrary it has to hope for insane stuff like psycho boost, or that they give it power trip
if it gets a new unique ability hopefully its something like topsy turvy your opponents or everyone lol
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I must admit that the seemingly total absence of Clemont & Bonnie in this Lumiose City-only XY sequel game while also including an entirely original, unrelated Electric specialist is a choice I probably won't find myself understanding anytime soon
I see the plus and minus symbol on an electric type and Im filled with dread that its going to get a really bad ability lol
Mega Floette is sick. It looks like an umbilical cord and a chain at the same time.
It just looks eerie but in a good way. I'm also just so happy after all these years to get it.
It just looks eerie but in a good way. I'm also just so happy after all these years to get it.
Definitely see they brought back some Whirlipede elements for this. Mainly coloring of the primary shell, and I imagine said shell is why its slower than base Scolipede.
I like the direction they went with for Mega Eternal Floette. The body is completely unchanged and everything new is done to the flower. Fitting for the only NFE that can Mega Evolve.
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Alright last thing from me here, but what would be the earliest we could see the new Mega's abilities?
Next year when Gen 10 releases?
Next year when Gen 10 releases?
"original" like I can't SMELL the blatant attempt to cash in on another iono. alas, seems only the previously revealed returning characters are the only ones... and Lysandre..? ( censored story spoilers)
either a random home leak or champions are the most likely timeframes, so probably early-ish next year
xerosic is supposedly in the game and korrina was listed in the text dump
Well, the cash grab worked on me. I like this new character more than Clement / Bonnie.
Something funny about Mega Chesnaught is Body Press makes the+30 in Attack feel like wasted stat points. :P
I always think of Speed Boost + Baton Pass when I think of Scolipede competitively (even though Baton Pass has been banned even from Ubers for a really long time) and Mega Scolipede being so slow screams that it's having its Ability is going to change. If it's changed to Stamina, it's going to be absurd with Baton Pass... Probably not viable in competative Anything Goes because it means not using the even more absurd Mega Rayquaza, but still very absurd.
I always think of Speed Boost + Baton Pass when I think of Scolipede competitively (even though Baton Pass has been banned even from Ubers for a really long time) and Mega Scolipede being so slow screams that it's having its Ability is going to change. If it's changed to Stamina, it's going to be absurd with Baton Pass... Probably not viable in competative Anything Goes because it means not using the even more absurd Mega Rayquaza, but still very absurd.
That pic of Eelektross make it look like it wants a hug. I really don't want a hug.
ability guesses based on flavor, spread, designs, base mons
M-Clef: Magic Guard
M-Victree: Chlorophyll
M-Starmie: Pure Power
M-Dragonite: Sheer Force (Don't at all believe it for a second, but based on dex entry, Soul Hear–– nvm)
M-Meganium: Solar Power
M-Gator: Strong Jaw (Dragon's Maw)
M-Starmie: Pure Power
M-Skarmory: Sharpness?
M-Froslass: Snow Warning / Perish Song
M-Boar: ? possibly Reckless
M-Drill: has to be Sand Rush, surely, but dex entry seems to be aligned with Mold Breaker
M-Scrafty: reskinned version of Fur Coat, Intimidate would be crazy though
M-Eelektross: surely Levitate
M-Chandy: no way they finally give it Shadow Tag, especially as M-Gengar already has it, maybe Cursed Body/Infiltrator
M-Chesnaught: Bulletproof
M-Delphox: Levitate
M-Greninja: Protean or Adaptability
M-Pyroar: Sheer Force
M-Eternal: possibly something unique to it
M-Malamar: Contrary / Neuroforce
M-Barbaracle: Tough Claws, possibly Anger Shell
M-Dragalge: Adaptability
(does M-Dragalge's dex entry hint at what I think it does or am I reading into it too much?)
Hawlucha: no idea, maybe Iron Fist?
M-Zygarde: probably something unique to it
M-Drampa: Berserk or a Dragon-type Electromorphosis
M-Falinks: Defiant
M-Clef: Magic Guard
M-Victree: Chlorophyll
M-Starmie: Pure Power
M-Dragonite: Sheer Force (Don't at all believe it for a second, but based on dex entry, Soul Hear–– nvm)
M-Meganium: Solar Power
M-Gator: Strong Jaw (Dragon's Maw)
M-Starmie: Pure Power
M-Skarmory: Sharpness?
M-Froslass: Snow Warning / Perish Song
M-Boar: ? possibly Reckless
M-Drill: has to be Sand Rush, surely, but dex entry seems to be aligned with Mold Breaker
M-Scrafty: reskinned version of Fur Coat, Intimidate would be crazy though
M-Eelektross: surely Levitate
M-Chandy: no way they finally give it Shadow Tag, especially as M-Gengar already has it, maybe Cursed Body/Infiltrator
M-Chesnaught: Bulletproof
M-Delphox: Levitate
M-Greninja: Protean or Adaptability
M-Pyroar: Sheer Force
M-Eternal: possibly something unique to it
M-Malamar: Contrary / Neuroforce
M-Barbaracle: Tough Claws, possibly Anger Shell
M-Dragalge: Adaptability
(does M-Dragalge's dex entry hint at what I think it does or am I reading into it too much?)
Hawlucha: no idea, maybe Iron Fist?
M-Zygarde: probably something unique to it
M-Drampa: Berserk or a Dragon-type Electromorphosis
M-Falinks: Defiant
When home is patched for ZA, which I'm guessing is early 2026,
Considering people are speculating Crabominable getting a Mega twice, I wonder if it's gonna be a G-Max Garbodor scenario where it gets a super form primarily cause of how much people hate it lmao.