Yeah, SD does seem a bit overbalanced. Good point with Aromatherapy, though, though one also imagines that it could be used akin to burning cannabis and confusing the foe.
I'm 100% against Weather Ball. I don't think some of you realize this, but if it gets Weather Ball, it will become ridiculously powerful. Team it up with a Tyranitar or Hippowdon, and it just got a 100BP Rock attack. Remember how it was supposed to need Hidden Power to get a Rock attack?
So basically, you could run a Choice Specs set with Fire Blast/Flamethrower, Energy Ball, Weather Ball, HP Ice/Ground, and have no real weakness. Or you could run Choice Scarf mixed, with Flare Blitz, Wood Hammer, Weather Ball, HP Ice/Ground. Feel free to throw Overheat or Leaf Storm into either set to up burst damage, but lower dps.
Therefore, NO Weather Ball.
Because obviously HP Fire is as powerful as a STAB'd Flamethrower or Fire Blast, and Poison hits things SE that fire doesn't. No wait, that's what Ground or Ice do. Thanks for playing.Roflmao
so i guess
Leafstorm
HP Fire
Weather Ball
Sludge Bomb
has no real counters? Well my Roserade has yet to sweep a team so i find that hard, very hard to believe. Which is nearly the same set you call broken.
Maybe if the winning design had burning marijuana leaves then people would poke fun at it :P. Also...I just came up with a new name for our creature. He will now be refer as "Mariguana"Finally someone cracks the lid on a joke that I thought would be hacked to death on this pokemon. When we chose Fire/Grass, I said to myself, "Oh great. This will be an unending stream of marijuana references." To my surprise, it's been left pretty much alone.
Sweet Scent?Yeah, SD does seem a bit overbalanced. Good point with Aromatherapy, though, though one also imagines that it could be used akin to burning cannabis and confusing the foe.
If we end up giving it a custom Grass beam attack... Chlorophyll Cannon.
Because obviously HP Fire is as powerful as Flamethrower or Fire Blast, and Poison hits things SE that fire doesn't. No wait, that's what Ground or Ice do. Thanks for playing.
They can be energy coconuts. Chlorophyll Cannon sounds weird and is too long of a name, how bout Photo Cannon/Blast? The word Photo could refer to Photosynthesis.I like Dane's name better though, even though coconuts being fired through the barrel of a cannon is cool, it would be physical. Chlorophyll Cannon sounds cool.
It's a done deal :Plol mariguana. if we go with that then the new move has to be called Cannabis Cannon.
They can be energy coconuts. Chlorophyll Cannon sounds weird and is too long of a name, how bout Photo Cannon/Blast? The word Photo could refer to Photosynthesis.
Maybe if the winning design had burning marijuana leaves then people would poke fun at it :P. Also...I just came up with a new name for our creature. He will now be refer as "Mariguana"
Mariguana = Marijuana + Iguana.
Sludge Bomb BP = 90
STAB'd Sludge Bomb BP = 135
Weather Ball in Sandstorm = 100BP
Let's see... Gyarados takes neutral damage from Sludge Bomb, but is weak to Rock Weather Ball. 200BP > 135.
HP Ice would do 280BP to Dragons, rather than 135.
Flamethrower and Fire Blast aren't even worth comparing to HP Fire due to it's ridiculousness. If HP Fire can 2HKO them, Fire Blast likely OHKOs. If you think that isn't a difference, there's no helping you.
Glad to made you laugh :P. I'm so tempted to add that name into the name poll just to see how many actually vote on it.OMG! I was drinking a soda when I read this, and I spit it all over my desk it made me laugh so hard.
Aeroblast? that was an accident, but Dragon Dance seems fine to me as well though.ive realised that i can no longer take anything lil ant says seriously, aeroblast and fucking dragon dance on the same set.
So basically you're advocating that Weather Ball is balanced using an ineffective strategy, rather than an effective one? Swords Dance isn't powerful if you don't run physical attacks! See how easy that is?You're talking about Fire Blast dude. The argument is on Weather Ball. Weather Ball seems just fine. Grass Knot on Gyarados is already 180 Base Power. Also, Weather Ball only is good IF you include to use Tyranitar or Hippowdon on your team, no one says you have to. I still don't see how Weather Ball would make it broken. I think we use Special Walls for a reason. Look at Specsmence, hits a lot of things for Super Effective, everything he hits it takes at least nuetral damage. They are also weak to Stealth Rock as well. Which makes you have to predict head on, if you want to try to avoid switching in and out, just because you predicted wrong.
Not sure exactly what this list is supposed to be, considering you put Tentacruel who's weak to ground on the ground list and still put Togekiss on both lists.With a ROCK Weather Ball and HP Ice
- Blissey
- Snorlax
- Tentacruel
- Heatran
- Ludicolo
- Probopass
- Umbreon
- Cresselia
- Gardevoir
- Togekiss
- Cradilly
- Kingdra
With a ROCK Weather Ball and HP ground
- Blissey
- Snorlax
- Tentacruel
- Ludicolo
- Probopass
- Umbreon
- Cresslia
- Gardevoir
- Togekiss
- Cradilly
- Kingdra
So basically you're advocating that Weather Ball is balanced using an ineffective strategy, rather than an effective one? Swords Dance isn't powerful if you don't run physical attacks! See how easy that is?
Not sure exactly what this list is supposed to be, considering you put Tentacruel who's weak to ground on the ground list and still put Togekiss on both lists.
You have to take Fire Blast/Grass Knot into account because... obviously this guy is going to run them, or even stronger moves.
Come back when you've decided to label your information, rather than just throwing info out there.