So Deoxys is really OU now??

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Okay so I've been away from Pokemon for a while and have not been paying much attention lately. So I was surprised to learn that Deoxys-S has now cemented a spot in OU play. I was also excited to see a surge in the amount of offensive teams. Now looking to get back into play on Shoddy and such I have made a new team (or rather tweaked my old one) to fit the new metagame. Since I started playing pokemon I always loved making teams of six sweepers and playing all-out offense and in D/P that dream is realized with the amount of hard-hitting sweepers that dominate the metagame.


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Gyarados @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 216 HP/16 Atk/92 Def/184 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
-Stone Edge
-Waterfall
-Dragon Dance
-Taunt

Bulky Gyarados after i got tired of getting outsped by stuff like Gengar and Azelf one to many times after a DD. 184 Speed lets me outspeed the Base 115 speed tier. Taunt almost seems necessary on a lead nowadays considering the amount of Bronzong leads being used. Stone Edge to help out with other Gyarados as they are always a major threat. Waterfall and DD need no explanation. While Gyarados has been able to sweep, I generally don't think of it as a primary sweeper on this team, its mainly used as a lead for intimidate and taunt. I'm considering putting the Attack EVs into defense to make up for the ones I used to boost the speed but I'm still not sure.


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Gengar @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP/252 SpAtk/Spd 252
Timid nature (+Spd, SpAtk)
-Focus Blast
-Thunderbolt
-Shadow Ball
-Hypnosis

Standard Gengar. Fills many roles on this team as a revenge killer, special sweeper, and distributor of status. Shadow Ball + Focus Blast for STAB and coverage. Shadow Ball hits stuff like Cresselia and Dusknoir nicely. Thunderbolt for Gyarados and other bulky water types that like to ruin the fun. Hypnosis really helps out in a pinch when there is some wall I can't break (if it doesn't talk in its sleep) and is the only status I have on this team. Focus Blast is meh for me, but I feel like its needed for coverage at least to threaten stuff like TTar,
Blissey, and Weavile.

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Infernape @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 24 Atk/252 SpAtk/232 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SpDef)
-Close Combat
-Flamethrower
-Grass Knot
-Nasty Plot

Mixape, very useful for taking out big physical walls that I hate. My team is basically physical and so the main attacks that shine here are grass knot and flamethrower. Grass knot to take out those bulky waters along with
Hippo and Flamethrower for the floaty steels. Killing Blissey is always fun as well. STAB CC really makes Infernape one of the best users of NP out there.

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Metagross @ Choice Band
Ability: Clear Body
EVs 252 HP/244 Atk/12 Def
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
-Explosion
-Earthquake
-Meteor Mash
-Bullet Punch

Metagross is extremely helpful on this team. Choice Band Meteor Mash can hurt pretty much anything and if it gets an attack boost it is especially dangerous. Earthquake is there for type coverage. Bullet Punch because priority moves rock and it does away nicely with Weavile and Aerodactyl. Explosion for those things that just won't dye and helps Metagross go out with a bang. I'm not entirely sure about the EV spread as I might want something with more speed, but I'm not exactly sure what would be best. I'm also considering incorporating Pursuit in there somewhere
but not sure what to put it over.


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Deoxys-S @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 Atk/252 SpAtk/252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SpDef)
-Superpower
-Ice Beam
-Psychic
-Shadow Ball

Okay Deoxys, which seems almost mandatory on any offensive team now considering its revenge killing capabilities. Seriously I wouldn't be surprised if it starts to challenge Chomp on the usage list considering how fast this thing is gaining popularity. Max speed as I want to outspeed everything i can with this thing. Ice Beam for dragons, Shadow Ball for things like Gengar and Azelf. Psychic because Infernape scares me and Superpower to hit Blissey. While it is be a great sweeper, its much more valuable for its revenge killing and sweep-ending potential.


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Garchomp @ Yache Berry
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
-Outrage
-Earthquake
-Fire Fang
-Swords Dance

This thing is seriously so good its not even fair (some people really do think its not fair). Yache Berry lets it take a hit and get in a good SD so it can wreak havoc on the opponents team. Originally had Adamant for extra power, but after a while I realized that Chomp needs all the speed it can get so I went for Jolly. This thing hits extremely hard with SD, Outrage, and EQ. Garchomp really rounds the team out nicely as the only electric resist and the Yache Berry makes it so I do not have to fear random HP Ice pokemon after switching in on
an electric attack.

 
Ahh yes,another offensive team.Mixape can hit 4 of your pokes for painful damage,and of course other Dexoys,so you could try getting rid of your Gyrados for Gliscor or Blissey,these would cover up your two weaknesses even though it's an offenseive team.

Btw to get pictures click the little Mountain pic on your post (same row as the font) then put the website in the box ;)
 
Pretty standard team, the only thing I would recommend is making gyarados the dd sweeper, with 252 attack/252 Speed/4 Hp and with the moveset DD/Waterfall/Ice Fang/Taunt in my experience its an amazing opener being able to sweep quite easily itself and can make it easier on itself and the next sweeper with taunt.
 
Arcanez said:
Ahh yes,another offensive team.Mixape can hit 4 of your pokes for painful damage,and of course other Dexoys,so you could try getting rid of your Gyrados for Gliscor or Blissey,these would cover up your two weaknesses even though it's an offenseive team.

Btw to get pictures click the little Mountain pic on your post (same row as the font) then put the website in the box ;)
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How are Gliscor or Blissy going to help with Deoxys (Ice beam and Superpower) and Infernape (HP Ice and CC)?
Thanks for the help with the pictures.


Brawlex said:
Pretty standard team, the only thing I would recommend is making gyarados the dd sweeper, with 252 attack/252 Speed/4 Hp and with the moveset DD/Waterfall/Ice Fang/Taunt in my experience its an amazing opener being able to sweep quite easily itself and can make it easier on itself and the next sweeper with taunt.
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I like the more offensively oriented EV spread for Gyarados, but I think I would keep Stone Edge over Ice Fang, as I feel powerless against other Gyarados and water types without it.

MetalGarX said:
You might want SD Luke its too devastating.

Easiest way is to go to the site copy the pic and paste it here. Works for me.
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I like SD Luke, but what would you suggest putting it over?
 
I would lead with your Metagross. Suicide leads are far too common to not use something that can threaten them. Aerodactyl can set up Stealth Rock, Taunt, etc. while Azelf Taunts, sets up Stealth Rock, and Explodes, which OHKOs your Gyarados even with Intimidate. Deoxys-S also destroys your Gyarados, Taunting it and setting up screens, Spikes, and Stealth Rock. CB Bullet Punch handles every one of these, but they carry Sash, so it will take two hits.
 
If I make Metagross my lead, should I throw Pursuit on there as well for Deoxys, Azelf, Gengar etc. In case I think they are running.
And if Gyarados isn't leading anymore should I keep Taunt on it? Or go for more coverage with Ice Fang or EQ?
 
Don't discount your own Gyarados set so quickly. I would keep it defensive for the sake of your offensive team. It counters other Gyarados' reasonably well, and can do a bit of sweeping on its one. I for one ran the exact same set but with a different EV spread:

152 HP / 172 Def / 184 Spe.. does the same thing as yours. Nice leftovers number, solid 237 defense, and a good speed mark.

I would also switch Gengar to Hasty and throw explosion on there for reliability sake. You eliminate blissey, but more importantly can just go out like a bomb on something threatening.
 
After playing around with this team a bit more I realized that Jolly is really better for Chomp as it needs all the speed it can get. Gyarados has been working out as a great lead, and I like the EV spread that RaikouLover suggested. Not to sure about Explosion on Gar yet, Focus Blast is annoying when it misses but the fighting type coverage helps a lot. However I can see why Explosion would be good. Does anyone have success using Focus Punch on Gar?

So far suicide leads have not been much of a problem (most I see are Azelf and Infernape). I have not seen many of them though so switching Gross to lead is a possibility if I come across more.
 
blasphemy1 said:
I would lead with your Metagross. Suicide leads are far too common to not use something that can threaten them. Aerodactyl can set up Stealth Rock, Taunt, etc. while Azelf Taunts, sets up Stealth Rock, and Explodes, which OHKOs your Gyarados even with Intimidate. Deoxys-S also destroys your Gyarados, Taunting it and setting up screens, Spikes, and Stealth Rock. CB Bullet Punch handles every one of these, but they carry Sash, so it will take two hits.
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I agree with this post, my lead is a typical azelf and when I see a gyrados lead I feel like i have a huge advantage already. Also those double barrier Dexoys-S are really annoying and you must try to prevent them from setting up >_>
 
Yeah I can see why Gross is a better lead, hate that DS Deoxys.
I want to throw pursuit on there (gross) so what should i get rid of? I'm torn between getting rid of MM, EQ, or Explosion (bullet punch stays regardless).
 
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