Pokemon Platinum - The definitive thread: Mach 2 (In-Game Discussion)

Yeah. I can imagine a whole bunch of ubers learning Superpower (even though it will probably be useless save probably Dialga/Palkia or something).

Mew may finally get Trick! (Then we have Trick Mewtwo lol)

On the other hand SD Celebi probably gets Zen Headbutt and Seed Bomb now.
I'm actually holding out for Nasty Plot Mewtwo. =( It's the single thing that would compel me to play ubers.

I mean, he's actually not evil, but....c'mon. They should have given him it.
 
Lol sorry I didn't mean to insult you in any way I was just thinking a Skymin raping Darkrai would be funny but on the bright side of all of this, you invented a way Darkrai could counter skymin ^^.

Nah, not insulted, although I was wrong on the stat spread. Even still, Skymin is powerful and I'm not discounting it, but it isn't wise to brazenly switch it into Darkrai of all things.

Darkrai shouldn't switch into it either. I will say though, 60% Air Slash flinch makes it a pain to revenge kill. Look out for Scarfdactyl with Stone Edge LOL.

In Ubers, Skymin won't be so powerful if only because Pressure Legends are everywhere. Giratina will be especially painful because it gets Spite now and has truckloads of defense anyway. Dialga will probably be the worst offender, it 4x resists Seed Flare and also resists Air Slash.

The other thing is that these tutor lists aren't comprehensive. We don;t have all the in-game data. I can't imagine Victree not getting Gunk Shot, and I'd be surprised if Darkrai can't learn Vacuum Wave (though thats a bit of a stretch). Maybe Poliwrath can get Aqua Tail through Poliwag?
 
Hm... I wonder... if the emerald got improved breeding from ruby / sapphire did platinum get improved breeding by any chance? Were probably going to have to test that after we get used to platinum...
 
Tangrowth gets instant healing with Synthesis.

Hey I actually found something that hasn't been said yet :D

lol fuck me. ._.

Hehe take that pokeguy ^^.

Ouch.

Zen is nice for lapras

Did anyone notice iron head on the legendary dogs
I noticed. I love it!
Synthesis is nice for those who gave up SRing for a Morning Sun one. Also, it's legal with egg moves! Subseed Tangrowth? Yes please.
And for those who didn't? Lol I'm so glad I decided not to do another one.
Entei really got some love this time around, still sucks for the most part but just not as hard...
It was cool enough for me to SR it before; now it's just cooler.

He learns it by level-up in Platinum, so I didn't think it was "new" per se.

In other news, credit to PokeBeach for this:

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That's SO awesome; do you know what the shiny ones look like? :O

oh my god rotom forms look retarded .____________________>

lol screw you; I love 'em <3

YEAH BABY!!!

I'm so hyped on that. Also Ambitions Hustle Kangaskhan gets the punches too! So hyped!

Do I need to trade for another scizor or do I get Bullet Punch for free? If I found someone to teach my Shiny Lucario ice and thunder punch do you want me to redistribute a copy of your scizor and get bullet punch while I'm at it?

Also, on a side note, Heat Wave, Hidden Power ice AND Tri Attack Togekiss FOR THE WIN. XD

No love for Doubles? ;_;
 
Curse Bibarel is my baby. :D

Bibarel @Leftovers
252 HP/4 Atk/252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
Simple

- Curse
- Taunt
- Return
- Waterfall

This thing is just deadly, and it can't be phazed away by annoying things such as Skarmory, which would wall it to death otherwise. Even with 0 Atk EVs, it still reaches 412 Attack after just 1 Curse, which means that it can take a huge beating while dishing out serious punishment to the opponent's team. This is one of the only sets where Super Fang isn't a very good option though, since the mentality is to sweep, and not to be as much of a team player as Bulky Beaver.

Amnesia definitely should be an option. With +2 Defense and +4 SpD, it'll be very tough to break.
 
And?

Skymin needs Life Orb or Specs Seed Flare to OHKO Darkrai. Furthermore, it's probably Extended game only, where Darkrai isn't. 100 SDef EV's will bring LO Seed Flare down to 99%. which you could afford to do on a PlotDarkrai.

Skymin also has the minor problem of switching in safely because of aforementioned Ice Beam.

For added lawls, Darkrai even has Quick Attack if Skymin has a Sash equipped, so it can finish Skymin off and continue its sweep. Of course, there is always Air Slash hax. Not that QA is practical on a set anyway, but "Skymin" is neither a safe switchin nor a solid counter.

Skymin also has quick attack, and higher speed than darkrai (if they're both running max) so... =/
 
Bologo, Quick Attack should be an option over Return to ignore those speed drops.

Skiddle, nothing new has been confirmed for Alakazam, but it's generally accepted that there is a Vaccum Wave tutor. There's a chance Alakazam will learn it, and bag a tidy OHKO on Weaviles that try to Pursuit.
 
Alright, the number of non-Uber Water types with real fire moves: Slowbro, Slowking, Octillery

Come on. Heat Wave on Suicune needs more love.
 
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