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Pokemon Platinum - The definitive thread: Mach 3 (Competitive Discussion)
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Oh wow you have like a million posts! I didn't even know people could count to a million. :P
I am just happy azumarill gets superpower+Ice punch.
Testing more as we speak.
Testing more as we speak.
I'm just annoyed there's no Belly Drum tutor.
Speaking of Floatzel:
Floatzel @ Life Orb
Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk / 80 Sp. Atk / 176 Spd
- Waterfall
- Ice Beam
- Crunch
- Brick Break / Aqua Jet
Could work.
I'm a little heartbroken to see that Weavile didn't learn Superpower as he would really have appreciated some decent BP.
In fact, Weavile gained nothing of note; he can't even learn Ice Punch via tutor for some reason. Poor little guy.
EDIT: Actually, it seems as though Sneasel can learn Ice Punch via tutor so I'll just have to assume it's a mistake on the Weavile section.
In fact, Weavile gained nothing of note; he can't even learn Ice Punch via tutor for some reason. Poor little guy.
EDIT: Actually, it seems as though Sneasel can learn Ice Punch via tutor so I'll just have to assume it's a mistake on the Weavile section.
Broken much? Aqua Jet + Belly Drum would be lol-tastic.
That is annoying about weavile. Not even sucker punch?
Wondering what you guys this of this set..
Drifblim
Calm
(I think either ability would work good)
Leftovers
28 HP / 230 Def / 252 SpDef
-Icy Wind
-Destiny Bond
-Thunderwave / Will-o-Wisp / Knock Off
-Thunderwave / Will-o-Wisp / Knock Off
(Theorymonning) Who said Annoyers are dead? Bring her in on something that is either going to switch out, or wont do significant damage, Icy Wind on their switch out, then proceed with whichever of the 2 annoying moves you choose, Destiny Bond is kinda a final resort type thing for when Driffy is rather low on Health.
Trick could be an option, give her Choice Scarf and use it on something you know is carrying leftovers.
EVS: HP is to hit a even Leftovers number (28 per turn), then i put the rest into the defenses sto lower percent of damage taken. Doesnt need speed because it still hits 196, which if iirc, will outspeed most anything that isnt boosted after they take an Icy Wind so that you can status or Destiny Bond to your hearts content..
as a side note, Salamence that isnt too bulky is 2HKOd, as is Non bulky Dragonites with SR out.
Please note that its 1 in the morning, and I was pondering this throughout the day at work so it isnt perfect, just a rough draft =)
Drifblim
Calm
(I think either ability would work good)
Leftovers
28 HP / 230 Def / 252 SpDef
-Icy Wind
-Destiny Bond
-Thunderwave / Will-o-Wisp / Knock Off
-Thunderwave / Will-o-Wisp / Knock Off
(Theorymonning) Who said Annoyers are dead? Bring her in on something that is either going to switch out, or wont do significant damage, Icy Wind on their switch out, then proceed with whichever of the 2 annoying moves you choose, Destiny Bond is kinda a final resort type thing for when Driffy is rather low on Health.
Trick could be an option, give her Choice Scarf and use it on something you know is carrying leftovers.
EVS: HP is to hit a even Leftovers number (28 per turn), then i put the rest into the defenses sto lower percent of damage taken. Doesnt need speed because it still hits 196, which if iirc, will outspeed most anything that isnt boosted after they take an Icy Wind so that you can status or Destiny Bond to your hearts content..
as a side note, Salamence that isnt too bulky is 2HKOd, as is Non bulky Dragonites with SR out.
Please note that its 1 in the morning, and I was pondering this throughout the day at work so it isnt perfect, just a rough draft =)
Base 120 Priority move...seriously? I would hope that EVEN Gamefreak wouldn't be that stupid, although you never know these days, what with Skymin and all. O_O
@Tortured Soul >.> Honchkrow, with its monstrous base attack (albeit not as monstrous as ttar), has had the exact same 120 base power priority move since the start, and has it ever lead to anything? Granted TTar's overall capabilities are above and beyond honchkrow, even if ttar got sucker punch we would not be talking about a level of speed and power foreign to the current OU.
Understood, I did go a little too far, but can you imagine the additional leading capabilities? Gone would be the ScarfGar leads if prediction was decent, along with other threats. You said so yourself, Honchkrow HAS had access since DP, but it's base stats can't rival that of Tyranitar.
Yeah, I think Lee posted a set somewhere here that I liked...
Nidos can now have Rivalry and Punches.
Note: Metalkids doesn't seem to know what to do with Rivalry, so I took the calcs I got and modified them with x1.25. (Except Bronzong which is neutral)
Nidoking @ Choice Band
Ability: Rivalry
Nature: Jolly
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP
~ Earthquake
~ Megahorn
~ Ice Punch/Fire Punch
~ Thunderpunch/Fire Punch
Thunderpunch to BulkyGyarados: 126-147%. (85-100% after Intimidate)
Ice Punch to 252/252 +Def Gliscor: 85-101%.
Fire Punch to 252/128 +Def Bronzong: 41-49%
Fire Punch to 252/104 Neut Bronzong: 46-55%
Unfortunately this isn't much help for wifi where Genders are random, but on Shoddy it could be quite interesting. It can basically OHKO either Gyara or Gliscor with Stealth Rock down, and reliably 2HKO all but the most defensive Bronzong spread listed. Just thought it would be interesting to check out some Rivalry Punch numbers.
Note: Metalkids doesn't seem to know what to do with Rivalry, so I took the calcs I got and modified them with x1.25. (Except Bronzong which is neutral)
Nidoking @ Choice Band
Ability: Rivalry
Nature: Jolly
252 Atk/252 Spe/4 HP
~ Earthquake
~ Megahorn
~ Ice Punch/Fire Punch
~ Thunderpunch/Fire Punch
Thunderpunch to BulkyGyarados: 126-147%. (85-100% after Intimidate)
Ice Punch to 252/252 +Def Gliscor: 85-101%.
Fire Punch to 252/128 +Def Bronzong: 41-49%
Fire Punch to 252/104 Neut Bronzong: 46-55%
Unfortunately this isn't much help for wifi where Genders are random, but on Shoddy it could be quite interesting. It can basically OHKO either Gyara or Gliscor with Stealth Rock down, and reliably 2HKO all but the most defensive Bronzong spread listed. Just thought it would be interesting to check out some Rivalry Punch numbers.
i'd still like to know the PRICES of each tutor move. can anybody help me out?
Especially considering not many people bother to change the gender of their pokemon when they make a team...
Am I the only one who finds the concept of Iron Defense Butterfree hilarious?
Also, too bad it's only learned in the cocoon stages, otherwise XD Beedrills would have had an interesting new trick. Kinda like BP Scizor, but more UU and bee-like.
Why do people even consider this a big deal? Its only really useful on a CB set.
Superpower is Breloom's best new addition imo, seeing as Sky Uppercut was lacking in power slightly and Focus Punch is much too prediction dependant for me on subless sets. TPunch is pretty useful with Poison Heal, but generally Poison Heal is only really of any use on Sub-Punch sets as they're the only ones that typically carry a Toxic Orb. I'd much rather use Stone Edge or Seed Bomb in the final slot.