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Supe v. Mr Goodbar: Safari Festival Final Battle
- Thread starter Supe
- Start date
That was part of the response I was working on. Yanma can't learn either them before then. Yanmega can at least learn Air Slash in DP. How peculiar.
Hence the "First" in the title of the tourney thread.
You learn something new every day.
Wait, can you not simply breed the two moves onto a Yanma? Iirc, if you breed two Yanma/ega that know both Air Slash and Bug Buzz, the offspring will have both moves as egg moves...
Anyway, aside from the X-Scissor controversy, I enjoyed the battle.
LR.
EDIT: Never mind the first thing. You can't have egg moves.
Yeah, catching the stuff took forever. I waited for over a week for Breloom to show up in the marsh, and it finally did the day I battled against ViVi.
Nice battle.
But hey, Goodbar hacks?!
He said nothing so far..
But hey, Goodbar hacks?!
He said nothing so far..
He hasn't been online since before the posting of this thread.
X-Scissor = 15 pp, 80 power, 100% accuracy, type=Bug, Heracross cannot learn this.
Megahorn = 10 pp, 120 power, 85% accuracy, type=Bug, Heracross can learn after level 50 or if both parents know it.
I'm rather perplexed as to how a bug move with less power would be put onto heracross, so am awaiting for Mr_Goodbar's explanation as to what happened, or whether x-scissor was perhaps mistaken for something else.
Edit: I see rules state it cannot be over level 50 and must be caught with safari ball.
Only legitimate bug move it can have at or under level 50 is fury cutter as a platinum move tutor with a 20 pp, 10 power, 95% accuracy.
Megahorn = 10 pp, 120 power, 85% accuracy, type=Bug, Heracross can learn after level 50 or if both parents know it.
I'm rather perplexed as to how a bug move with less power would be put onto heracross, so am awaiting for Mr_Goodbar's explanation as to what happened, or whether x-scissor was perhaps mistaken for something else.
Edit: I see rules state it cannot be over level 50 and must be caught with safari ball.
Only legitimate bug move it can have at or under level 50 is fury cutter as a platinum move tutor with a 20 pp, 10 power, 95% accuracy.
I wondered this as well. Likewise, it learns Aerial Ace, which would be SR against Vileplume.
Are the guys using Japanese games or something? I mean if he used Aerial Ace, Supe is bound to have seen the move Aerial ace, with all the animations and stuff, and not X-scissor. It has also been already mentioned that Goodbar posted the comments when he had a copy of the warstory. Can't he see such a mistake??
Also, I kinda noticed something:
Supe mentioned that hera might use X-Scissor before Goodbar accually used it. Unless Supe posted his opinions after the battle while knowing what Goodbar will use next, this looks rather weird..
Also, I kinda noticed something:
Supe said:
Supe mentioned that hera might use X-Scissor before Goodbar accually used it. Unless Supe posted his opinions after the battle while knowing what Goodbar will use next, this looks rather weird..
Also explains why he never called Goodbar out on the move.
I'd like to get to the bottom of this. O___o
Aerial Ace does seem like a viable excuse, but unless it was in Japanese, I don't think it would have been that easy of a mistake to make.
Heracross cannot learn Megahorn until level 55, so it was illegal in your tournament. That's why he used X-Scissor.
Well I know I thought Heracross learned X-Scissor as well, so he could have easily done the same. Probably why he thought nothing of it when Heracross actually used the move, too.Supe said:
You're probably right, I didnt look into Yanmega's movepool enough as I thought air slash would be doing almost all the work...truthfully I thought I'd never use HP ground but had it on there as a (bad) filler.
Anyways there's not much I can say about X-Scizzor, I get lazy and I taught most of the moves using a hacking device because I can without altering anything important about the pokemon. I did not hack the pokemon, it was caught in my emerald and i still have one in there and can prove it if needed, likewise none of my other safari pokemon were hacked. I must have assumed it learned the bug move but did not... Lorak I'll concede the prize for this inconvienence, but i'd say it hardly changed the outcome of this battle, since heracross had EQ which at minimum would have 2HKOed. As for my other battles, I don't think I even used it, though you can ask the other contestents. Sorry about all this people and thanks for commenting/posting >.<
But every single metagame either in battle tower or shoddy, the level is either 100 or 50, it get boring after 50 and 100 repeated. Using a different level bar would make Safari metagame even more unique.
No thanks. Things seem to work nicely as is.
That is true!
... All the more reason to leave it at 50, in case for some reason you wanted to use those Pokemon elsewhere? :|
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Alright... sorry I didn't explicitly state about not using game-altering devices to *teach* the moves. I thought it'd be enough to say what I said in the rules... sorry again. You fought well, and I'm sorry this happened.
... Yeah, that.
Well, I'm glad Goodbar came and explained what happened. I knew Megahorn was banned due to the lvl 50 cap, so when he used X-Scissor I just assumed Hera learned it via TM. I really didn't think much of it at the time. Like he said tho, it would not have affected the outcome of the battle in any way.
As far as the safari metagame is concerned tho, I think it's perfectly fine at level 50. Sure, there are a handful of standard moves that become unavailable, but that just adds to the fun.
As far as the safari metagame is concerned tho, I think it's perfectly fine at level 50. Sure, there are a handful of standard moves that become unavailable, but that just adds to the fun.